Canada increases troops
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Re: RE: Canada increases troops
Absolutely!
That is why I like the new Chief, Hillier.
They're going into the hills to kill scumbags. Clear, unadulterated truth. Whether you like it or not.
BTW, you're avatara are begining to confuse me! (easily done, I admit)
I LIKE this one. 8)
the caracal kid said:
Absolutely!
That is why I like the new Chief, Hillier.
They're going into the hills to kill scumbags. Clear, unadulterated truth. Whether you like it or not.
BTW, you're avatara are begining to confuse me! (easily done, I admit)
I LIKE this one. 8)
RE: Canada increases troo
Exactly Dory, for some reason people seem unwilling to come to terms with the fact we're at war. It's quite sad really.
Well Sassy, recruitment is up a lot in the last few years. Sadly our process is backlogged as we're not used to dealing with so many recruits. The security screening crawls along because there aren't enough CSIS employees to screen everyone quickly. When I joined the Army I waited for almost a year. Granted things are much worse these days, but still, I waited because it was something I wanted to do. We're lucky in our Reservists though (as Dory pointed out the need to call them up). Currently 20% of the soldiers serving on Op Archer (Kandahar, Germany and Camp Mirage) are reservists. Our reg force people are burnt and sadly no relief is in sight. Currently my Regiment numbers less than 80 all ranks, a Regiment that usually numbers well over 550. The rest are in Afghanistan, Camp Mirage, or Germany support Op Archer. The sad part is, that in the fall of 2006 we're sending more troops to 'ghan. Where the Regiment is getting them, I have no idea.
Better off without them. I didn't join the Forces for a paycheck. If they did, we don't need them.
Exactly Dory, for some reason people seem unwilling to come to terms with the fact we're at war. It's quite sad really.
Well Sassy, recruitment is up a lot in the last few years. Sadly our process is backlogged as we're not used to dealing with so many recruits. The security screening crawls along because there aren't enough CSIS employees to screen everyone quickly. When I joined the Army I waited for almost a year. Granted things are much worse these days, but still, I waited because it was something I wanted to do. We're lucky in our Reservists though (as Dory pointed out the need to call them up). Currently 20% of the soldiers serving on Op Archer (Kandahar, Germany and Camp Mirage) are reservists. Our reg force people are burnt and sadly no relief is in sight. Currently my Regiment numbers less than 80 all ranks, a Regiment that usually numbers well over 550. The rest are in Afghanistan, Camp Mirage, or Germany support Op Archer. The sad part is, that in the fall of 2006 we're sending more troops to 'ghan. Where the Regiment is getting them, I have no idea.
Better off without them. I didn't join the Forces for a paycheck. If they did, we don't need them.
Funny story. Decided to go to school and get a BA in history. Then you realize how utterly useless a BA is, and the military looks like an increasingly better option every day...
Re: RE: Canada increases troops
That propaganda didn't stem from the military, Caracal, it was purely a Liberal agenda. Most soldiers don't want to be seen as ineffectual hall monitors by the very people they serve.
And the truth is rarely pretty. Would you rather be given attractive lies?
the caracal kid said:
That propaganda didn't stem from the military, Caracal, it was purely a Liberal agenda. Most soldiers don't want to be seen as ineffectual hall monitors by the very people they serve.
And the truth is rarely pretty. Would you rather be given attractive lies?
Doryman
You write: And the truth is rarely pretty. Would you rather be given attractive lies?
Well said!
We spend much of our lives searching for comfort, using disguise and denial....rather than getting it over with and facing up. I
can understand a group of people not wanting to prepare what to them seems unnecessary because they are innocents caught up in a huge problem by their geographical location as just one factor.
A country which dwells on peace is a beautiful thing, but there must be a defense to ensure that peace is kept.
Place blame whenever or wherever you wish, but continue keeping the military at the ready.
You write: And the truth is rarely pretty. Would you rather be given attractive lies?
Well said!
We spend much of our lives searching for comfort, using disguise and denial....rather than getting it over with and facing up. I
can understand a group of people not wanting to prepare what to them seems unnecessary because they are innocents caught up in a huge problem by their geographical location as just one factor.
A country which dwells on peace is a beautiful thing, but there must be a defense to ensure that peace is kept.
Place blame whenever or wherever you wish, but continue keeping the military at the ready.
To the comment "better off without them"
People, like yourself that join the forces may do so for any number of good, honorable reasons. Being Canadian you bring a quality to the table or the field as may be the case, that is rare and elite over the world.
Your career like your life is anything but static. Most go into the service single, forward looking. They do their training, their tours and they get married and have kids which, thows any number of the old hominines out the door and change is inevitable.
Some feel its best for their immediate families they get out of the crush and go into a higher paying, safer industry because of home considerations more than anything.
No, I can't see the service being better off without them. I do appreciate a service allowing them to leave on good terms.
I joined the navy whe I was 14. That is another life time but I still remember the amazing rush I had in taking that step. I was in for a day and they kicked me out.
If you are in the Canadian Forces good luck to you. There is a large community in the public who support you and what you do. Like me, many don't know how to support.
People, like yourself that join the forces may do so for any number of good, honorable reasons. Being Canadian you bring a quality to the table or the field as may be the case, that is rare and elite over the world.
Your career like your life is anything but static. Most go into the service single, forward looking. They do their training, their tours and they get married and have kids which, thows any number of the old hominines out the door and change is inevitable.
Some feel its best for their immediate families they get out of the crush and go into a higher paying, safer industry because of home considerations more than anything.
No, I can't see the service being better off without them. I do appreciate a service allowing them to leave on good terms.
I joined the navy whe I was 14. That is another life time but I still remember the amazing rush I had in taking that step. I was in for a day and they kicked me out.
If you are in the Canadian Forces good luck to you. There is a large community in the public who support you and what you do. Like me, many don't know how to support.
Re: RE: Canada increases troops
don't kid yourself dory.
the military is complicit in creating a idealic image of itself. It must for its own purposes do such things. There is the politics of military as well as the politics of the people.
I do not desire attractive lies. I do not attempt to appease the mob.
I also do not pretend a scorpion is not a scorpion.
To Wednesday:
Things are not what they seem;
Nor are they otherwise.
- Lankavatara Sutra
defence does not ensure peace. understanding ensures peace.
Doryman said:
don't kid yourself dory.
the military is complicit in creating a idealic image of itself. It must for its own purposes do such things. There is the politics of military as well as the politics of the people.
I do not desire attractive lies. I do not attempt to appease the mob.
I also do not pretend a scorpion is not a scorpion.
To Wednesday:
Things are not what they seem;
Nor are they otherwise.
- Lankavatara Sutra
defence does not ensure peace. understanding ensures peace.
Re: RE: Canada increases troops
Your both right, it does stem from media which does not inform the public very much about the role in Afghanistan or the role of Canada in the world. CBC is probably one of the worst offenders, as one can tell they are trying to push their belief agenda on you (just like foxnews in the US).
The military is likely not pushing this propaganda as it will only weaken their support at home when they are abroad risking their lives. Most soilders don't want to be seen as "ineffectual hall monitors" because they are not, they are not in Afghanistan to facilitate peace between the Taliban terrorist group and the Afghan people, they are they do fight.
I think if a PM came out and explained the mission to citizens there would be stronger public support. Right now there is too much crap spewed by the left and the leftist media who are trying to push their anti war, anti US propaganda.
Doryman said:
Your both right, it does stem from media which does not inform the public very much about the role in Afghanistan or the role of Canada in the world. CBC is probably one of the worst offenders, as one can tell they are trying to push their belief agenda on you (just like foxnews in the US).
The military is likely not pushing this propaganda as it will only weaken their support at home when they are abroad risking their lives. Most soilders don't want to be seen as "ineffectual hall monitors" because they are not, they are not in Afghanistan to facilitate peace between the Taliban terrorist group and the Afghan people, they are they do fight.
I think if a PM came out and explained the mission to citizens there would be stronger public support. Right now there is too much crap spewed by the left and the leftist media who are trying to push their anti war, anti US propaganda.
CaracalKid
Understanding does create peace or maintains peace or keeps peace - however it doesn't seem to be working in Europe.
A strong defense at the ready is not a challenge - but a guarantee
a country means to keep peace within its borders.
If you have served in the military I'll reconsider your remarks both to me and Doryman as first hand knowledge and opinion.
If you have not served - then you cannot know what I mean by defense. You appear to see defense in conflict with understanding. You are wrong.
Understanding does create peace or maintains peace or keeps peace - however it doesn't seem to be working in Europe.
A strong defense at the ready is not a challenge - but a guarantee
a country means to keep peace within its borders.
If you have served in the military I'll reconsider your remarks both to me and Doryman as first hand knowledge and opinion.
If you have not served - then you cannot know what I mean by defense. You appear to see defense in conflict with understanding. You are wrong.
"A strong defense at the ready is not a challenge - but a guarantee"
It provides no guarentee at all.
Defense is both conficting with and not conflicting with understanding. There is more motivation when one is more vulnerable. It is easier to understand when one must understand.
It provides no guarentee at all.
Defense is both conficting with and not conflicting with understanding. There is more motivation when one is more vulnerable. It is easier to understand when one must understand.
Oh CaracalKid
What you just wrote..... how Zenlike....
It's easier to understand when one mustunderstand?
As in: when you are attacked you will know for certain?
Tell that to the people in London, France, Australia, Spain, Bali, Russia who have had their peaceful lives torn up by explosives for no reason other than madness. They were living with open understanding.
What do you say? Is it "understanding gone mad?"
What you just wrote..... how Zenlike....
It's easier to understand when one mustunderstand?
As in: when you are attacked you will know for certain?
Tell that to the people in London, France, Australia, Spain, Bali, Russia who have had their peaceful lives torn up by explosives for no reason other than madness. They were living with open understanding.
What do you say? Is it "understanding gone mad?"
But one must look for the "root" of the chain of events that led to explosive results.
Simply because people live in ignorance of the actions of their nations toward other nations is not enough.
Now as for military, no amount of military is going to prevent such civilian attacks unless one wishes to live under the gun oneself. Violence is the end product of a process, not the beginning.
The victims of bombings have their own governments to blame as much as anybody else, and those governments went about their ways that resulted in said attacks because they thought they did not need to understand, for the might of their armies gave them protection.
If is a bloody path you choose to walk, you must accept that blood will stain you.
Simply because people live in ignorance of the actions of their nations toward other nations is not enough.
Now as for military, no amount of military is going to prevent such civilian attacks unless one wishes to live under the gun oneself. Violence is the end product of a process, not the beginning.
The victims of bombings have their own governments to blame as much as anybody else, and those governments went about their ways that resulted in said attacks because they thought they did not need to understand, for the might of their armies gave them protection.
If is a bloody path you choose to walk, you must accept that blood will stain you.
CaracalKid
I hope what you believe to be true will in fact be true and you will be vindicated by your pronunciations of how to avoid conflict through understanding. It would be my choice if I had one.
It must be wonderful standing above the common man making pronouncements of what must be done - having all that knowledge stored inside when it should be shared with the world.
Meanwhile I'm going to practice my Kumbaya mantras....and hope you are right!
HankC/Cyberclark
If it's cool that will sort this global rumble out....I'll try it....I'll go sit in Antarctica if necessary! :roll:
Meanwhile I'll hang with the warriors wherever they are - whether right or wrong - they answer and I am grateful.
I hope what you believe to be true will in fact be true and you will be vindicated by your pronunciations of how to avoid conflict through understanding. It would be my choice if I had one.
It must be wonderful standing above the common man making pronouncements of what must be done - having all that knowledge stored inside when it should be shared with the world.
Meanwhile I'm going to practice my Kumbaya mantras....and hope you are right!
HankC/Cyberclark
If it's cool that will sort this global rumble out....I'll try it....I'll go sit in Antarctica if necessary! :roll:
Meanwhile I'll hang with the warriors wherever they are - whether right or wrong - they answer and I am grateful.