Canada Bashers Double Standard
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zoofer said:
Ann Coulter's got a gun
Liberals whole world's come undone
From lookin' straight at Ann Coulter's Gun.
What did Liberals do?
What did they put Ann Coulter through?
Run away, Liberals run away, yeah yeah yeah
Run away Liberals run away yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away, Liberals run away, run, run away
Ann Coulter's got a gun.
RE: Canada Bashers Double
Cortez would you consider the post of Minister of Goodlovin in the Revolutionary Canuckistan Government.
Cortez would you consider the post of Minister of Goodlovin in the Revolutionary Canuckistan Government.
Re: RE: Canada Bashers Double Standard
yes, it provides shelter.
However, a 25K increase in value is not "real". More "paper money". If you were to sell today and buy back into the market you would be paying out that increase into something else. If you "cashed out" you would have more money, assuming the 25K was not consumed in the costs associated with the maintianing of the house (this includes your taxes, etc).
The "trick" of the system is to make the individual think he has something. Ensnared in the web of capitalism (in this case, for there are alternate tools used in other ideaologies).
But cortez, I am not out to take jay on. The realities people create for themselves that ultimately ensare them are present in ALL the political ideaologies currently implemented. The simple reason for this is the systems were not intended to create freedom for the individual, but to enslave the individual. Without a methodology to coerce the individual to functioning within the system, the system collapses. All I am showing is that it is perspective that casts these visions of an ideal landscape. It begins very early too. I once thought of children as the great hope for humanity, the great potential. Now I see them as cursed with the legacies of their forefathers. Few ever break free of the conditioning that begins at birth. Even fewer make inroads into discovering the reality beyond one's own created "realities". So i tolorate the old ideaologies. Just like a lolly-pop sooths a child (and rots its teeth with the white poison called sugar), the hunter-gatherer animal still needs its soothing in the form of trinkets that to him/her are precious but in reality are not.
Jay said:
yes, it provides shelter.
However, a 25K increase in value is not "real". More "paper money". If you were to sell today and buy back into the market you would be paying out that increase into something else. If you "cashed out" you would have more money, assuming the 25K was not consumed in the costs associated with the maintianing of the house (this includes your taxes, etc).
The "trick" of the system is to make the individual think he has something. Ensnared in the web of capitalism (in this case, for there are alternate tools used in other ideaologies).
But cortez, I am not out to take jay on. The realities people create for themselves that ultimately ensare them are present in ALL the political ideaologies currently implemented. The simple reason for this is the systems were not intended to create freedom for the individual, but to enslave the individual. Without a methodology to coerce the individual to functioning within the system, the system collapses. All I am showing is that it is perspective that casts these visions of an ideal landscape. It begins very early too. I once thought of children as the great hope for humanity, the great potential. Now I see them as cursed with the legacies of their forefathers. Few ever break free of the conditioning that begins at birth. Even fewer make inroads into discovering the reality beyond one's own created "realities". So i tolorate the old ideaologies. Just like a lolly-pop sooths a child (and rots its teeth with the white poison called sugar), the hunter-gatherer animal still needs its soothing in the form of trinkets that to him/her are precious but in reality are not.
not a myth, a construct of man.
just as real as all constucts of man.
the individual is always a part of a system, the question is "what systems is it a part of?"
just as real as all constucts of man.
the individual is always a part of a system, the question is "what systems is it a part of?"
Re: RE: Canada Bashers Double Standard
The system constructed by the individual.
the caracal kid said:
The system constructed by the individual.
I thik we should ship all right-wingers to Alberta where they belong where they will toil in the oil fields in their little capitalist paradise with no public health-care
and no other services.
Surrounded by a wonderful socialist paradise around it.
and no other services.
Surrounded by a wonderful socialist paradise around it.
caracal kid
the probelm with you is that your too deep a thinker
i believe you are trapped in a semantical web
my partial solution to this polarity of individual vs society and system is ------
1) our individual consciousness is by definition individual-- no one can experience the things we experience in our consciousness except ourselves
2) the CONTENTS of our consciousness however are not our own --- they are determined by external factors - environmental, social etc
for better or worse
3) one of the contents of our consciousness is our SELF IMAGE-- that too is largely conditioned
4) once consciousness becomes aware that its self image is determined by external factors then it has the choice of accepting or rejecting that image as authentic or not
5) a consciousness that attempts to rejects its current self image finds out very quicky it cannot do that internally alone-- because of the weight and power of persistent external stimuli that apparently--as if they have mind of their own--- attempt to re-establish the old consciousness--- i call this consciousness containment --
6) the struggle then is to change physical reality in the material world so that it permits a new consciousness - a new self consciousness from emerging-- and thus history moves -- i hesitate to say forward-- but it moves-- and this brings you into conflict with the inertia of the environment as well as with yer fellow humans
the struggle has brought us from stone age to hiroshima in a mere 10000 years
this struggle for authentic self consciousness
is ongoing-----
and despite this ascencion-- of which we are all part
this collective human conciousness is at odds with the individual human consciousness -- fundamentally....
the individual self consciousness is absolutely sure it wants to live
the collective human consciousness isnt so sure
thats the source of your anguish
coming up with this death wish as it manifests itself as greed ,exploitative capitalism, mind numbing conformity-- etc
i hope that clarifies things a bit
the probelm with you is that your too deep a thinker
i believe you are trapped in a semantical web
my partial solution to this polarity of individual vs society and system is ------
1) our individual consciousness is by definition individual-- no one can experience the things we experience in our consciousness except ourselves
2) the CONTENTS of our consciousness however are not our own --- they are determined by external factors - environmental, social etc
for better or worse
3) one of the contents of our consciousness is our SELF IMAGE-- that too is largely conditioned
4) once consciousness becomes aware that its self image is determined by external factors then it has the choice of accepting or rejecting that image as authentic or not
5) a consciousness that attempts to rejects its current self image finds out very quicky it cannot do that internally alone-- because of the weight and power of persistent external stimuli that apparently--as if they have mind of their own--- attempt to re-establish the old consciousness--- i call this consciousness containment --
6) the struggle then is to change physical reality in the material world so that it permits a new consciousness - a new self consciousness from emerging-- and thus history moves -- i hesitate to say forward-- but it moves-- and this brings you into conflict with the inertia of the environment as well as with yer fellow humans
the struggle has brought us from stone age to hiroshima in a mere 10000 years
this struggle for authentic self consciousness
is ongoing-----
and despite this ascencion-- of which we are all part
this collective human conciousness is at odds with the individual human consciousness -- fundamentally....
the individual self consciousness is absolutely sure it wants to live
the collective human consciousness isnt so sure
thats the source of your anguish
coming up with this death wish as it manifests itself as greed ,exploitative capitalism, mind numbing conformity-- etc
i hope that clarifies things a bit
Since Canada was created by tyhe British system not the American about group rights instead of individual rights this is aa new quasi American approach that doesn't work in a group based country.
So in Canada it is a myth.
So in Canada it is a myth.
well,cortez,
now that you have opened up the examination of consciousness perhaps you would like to start with your definition?
A question pondered over the time of man.
Is consciousness bound to the individual?
I will agree with you that the contents of consciousness are not contained within consciousness itself.
I will wait to see your basis before commenting further.
now that you have opened up the examination of consciousness perhaps you would like to start with your definition?
A question pondered over the time of man.
Is consciousness bound to the individual?
I will agree with you that the contents of consciousness are not contained within consciousness itself.
I will wait to see your basis before commenting further.