Can heroes still exist?

Pangloss

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Karrie:

This thread rocks.

There seems to be a clear distinction here between the hero as someone who does a heroic act, and the "celebrity hero" - imagine a sports figure - someone who is called a hero merely because they are famous. Some folks might even think of - gasp! - Paris Hilton as their "hero."


Of course we have to have people to look up to, the extraordinary life that motivates us to try harder, and I see nothing wrong with that. Antoine de St Exupry and E.B. White are two of my literary heroes. They inspire (goad?) me into being a better, more disciplined writer.


Ought we scrutinize a politicians life when they run for office? Only if they run on their reputation or they base their campaign on "family values." Do they live now as they would like all of us to?

Senator Larry Craig is a good example, if only the most recent. Co-author of the military "don't ask, don't tell" anti-gay witch hunt policy, it was right and good for the press to report on his gay behaviour. His hypocrisy illuminated his politics.

If a politician runs on policy and ideas, and defends those policies and ideas on their own merits, without an appeal to authority or character, then you are right, we should keep our noses out of their personal business.

When was the last time an American political candidate didn't make a very public display of their piety? When was the last time a Canadian conservative (regardless of party) candidate didn't talk of the importance of leading a disciplined, moral life? As soon as they do this, we get to see if they walk the walk - their personal lives have been made fair game by their own words and actions.

Pangloss
 

Curiosity

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This is an excellent topic and I was saving it to read when my morning coffee had finished complaining....

I was shocked when I read as many references to U.S. "figureheads" as were mentioned - and realized the impact the U.S. media truly does have on Canadian culture these days. How can you escape I have no answers but I find it very sad. How many times have I desperately wanted to read Canadian history, Canadian daily activity, what Canadians are doing .... and another day wishing.

I had heros, still have but I doubt if their names were ever listed in print other than birth, marriage, death kind of stats in the local paper .... but whether acknowledged by some, a vast number, or none, means nothing in their place in my mind and in my heart.

Humans exceeding the daily grind and finding themselves in a position to make a difference through an herioc act of course are heros.... but those who go through their lives quietly making a difference on a daily basis are also heros....

We need these people as examples of inspiration and I think having heros is a good thing.... but having a hero because he or she is talented in some way, isn't heroic - but rather a birthright - and I am speaking about athletes or artists.

Heroic to me simply means stepping out of the regular into the special for the benefit of another or many or overcoming enormous odds to accomplish some notable feat or exercise or discovery.

I hope we humans will always treasure the concept of admiration of others who perform heroic deeds.
 

darkbeaver

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Terry Fox gave himself to all of us, selflessly. The world is full of unsung heros and heroines they inspire by example. I'am aware of the overuse and misapplication of the word though, and the commercial cheapening of the virtue. False heros abound.
 

Curiosity

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MikeyDB

At the risk of bring further attention to myself, I cannot let your kind message go without acknowledgement. Thank you for writing those words - I will try to continue living up to them.

Last year I was in a great bargain with God .... it worked for me ....
 

Curiosity

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Pangloss and Beav

Terry Fox was the epitome of a glorious hero for a whole nation who loved the man and what he accomplished and he was totally your Canadian son.... all yours. Can't get any better than that.
 

darkbeaver

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Pangloss and Beav

Terry Fox was the epitome of a glorious hero for a whole nation who loved the man and what he accomplished and he was totally your Canadian son.... all yours. Can't get any better than that.

I think he gave himself to everyone regardless of nationality. True heros transend mundane reality.