Jay said:
Conservatives have given up a great deal in monetary terms to left ideals....incredible amounts of money. I consider anything over 25% of my income way, way to much to give up so people can buy votes with it. Another good example of conservatives giving up would be the fact you can't buy basic health insurance in Canada it's illegal to do so....
I don't think that income is being used to purchase votes; I think it's being used to provide programs to the people of Canada, to support us and to ensure that we live good lives. As for the idea of purchasing private medical insurance, that would divert resources from the public system, and those who desparately need care, who don't have the money, would be left to pray for a miracle.
Jay said:
I want protestant Christianity to be taught in public schools as it was when I went to school, but because certain people have deemed this to be taboo, I can't, and if I wish to send my kids to religious schools I have to pay for it myself, without a tax break against my exorbitant property taxes....we are getting screwed big time for the sake of the new religion which is leftism IMO.
Yeah, well, I don't want it to be taught in public schools. Go figure.
Jay said:
Gun control and the ability to defend ones self....I don't need to explain that one to you because we agree on the subject, but clearly the right has given this right up too....
Ah, yes. How we love our guns. I don't think that gun control should even be an issue. Guns are, in most cases, absolutely useless. People are using the guise of "hunting", more often than not, to justify gun ownership — and yet many of the guns they proposed to own would never be used in hunting, and are only used to kill people. I don't see any point in tolerating that.
Jay said:
I don't understand what you mean. If you're referring to the
hate propaganda provisions in
An Act respecting the Criminal Law, then I'm going to disagree with you here. There's always a
proper way to express yourself, and that way needs to be taken. Fred Phelps shouldn't be allowed to broadcast commercials spewing his hatred on television, for example.
Jay said:
I'll give you the same sex rights issue, why not....I mean I know how Tommy Douglas thought about the issue and he said it was a mental disorder and he was a socialist NDPer....give me a break. I don't support what Tommy the NDP guy said...I think it is foolish. I support all the same rights for homos as I do hetros, with the minor difference being the term marriage, as there is just to load a voice that says these two unions should be deemed different. I don't think that is too much to ask.
For me, the issue is legal, to an extent. If same-sex couples were to have "unions" instead of "marriages", then the British commonlaw precedents that apply to marriages would not apply to same-sex couples. If the "rights" of that couple were ever challenged, then they would have an
extremely difficult time defending themselves.
Jay said:
I just don't think "social programs" are part of the "Christian way". People like to throw around these words "social programming" as if it some de facto thing that was handed down from on high and need to be held in some reverence when further from the truth it couldn't be.
You're right, I don't think social programs are particularly Christian. Social programs imply that everyone has the right to a certain standard of living, regardless of their circumstances. That doesn't seem Christian to me.
Jay said:
An eye for an eye is Old Testament thinking...turn the other cheek is Christian. I do think there are some problems with some fundamentalist beliefs in Christianity, but they can't hold a candle to the competition.
If we interpreted the Bible as literally as the Qur'an is interpreted in some other nations, and applied it to the law, then we'd end up committing terrible acts against our own citizens when they did something wrong. If someone was stabbed, we'd stab them; if someone ate meat on Fridays, they'd be imprisoned. I don't see any reason to apply Christianity to the law in Canada.
