CA Soldier killed -Afganistan :-(
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Canadian soldier killed, 4 hurt in Afghan crash
WHY? WHY? Why should our precious soldiers die for the lies of the American moron?
We, as Canadians, should ask our government for a quick pull out of Afghanistan. We do not have to die for American bulliness and greed.
Canadian soldier killed, 4 hurt in Afghan crash
WHY? WHY? Why should our precious soldiers die for the lies of the American moron?
We, as Canadians, should ask our government for a quick pull out of Afghanistan. We do not have to die for American bulliness and greed.
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...........and an unappreciative/ungrateful, selfish moron , who assumes that we will continue to comply as if we don't have a thought of our own. It is time to re-evaluate our involvement in this. (diplomatically and carefully.)
moghrabi said:Canadian soldier killed, 4 hurt in Afghan crash
WHY? WHY? Why should our precious soldiers die for the lies of the American moron?
We, as Canadians, should ask our government for a quick pull out of Afghanistan. We do not have to die for American bulliness and greed.
...........and an unappreciative/ungrateful, selfish moron , who assumes that we will continue to comply as if we don't have a thought of our own. It is time to re-evaluate our involvement in this. (diplomatically and carefully.)
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Okay.
Canadians died in 911 too, you know.
And, although you may certainly be right that Iraq had nothing to do with 911, the Taliban in Afghanistan most certainly did have something to do with it. They set up, or allowed Osama to set up, training bases, they sheltered him and supported his aims, they refused to stop doing so or to turn the guilty parties over when the US demanded it.
There is certainly a valid argument that the invasion of Iraq was illegitimate. There is no such valid argument over the invasion of Afghanistan.
Canadians died in 911.
That is besides the fact that our international treaties with the USA state that an attack on the USA is an attack on Canada, and vice-versa. The USA is our closest ally and friend. They have defended us since the end of WWII, and when they are in need, and their cause is just, it is our duty to step up to the plate.
There will be more Canadian casualties. Kandahar is a hotbed of Taliban activities, and Canadians will be tracking them down in their holes in the hills, and killing them. And, unfortunately, being killed. For a just cause.
"We sleep peaceful in our beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on our behalf". George Orwell
Ocean Breeze said:moghrabi said:Canadian soldier killed, 4 hurt in Afghan crash
WHY? WHY? Why should our precious soldiers die for the lies of the American moron?
We, as Canadians, should ask our government for a quick pull out of Afghanistan. We do not have to die for American bulliness and greed.
...........and an unappreciative/ungrateful, selfish moron , who assumes that we will continue to comply as if we don't have a thought of our own. It is time to re-evaluate our involvement in this. (diplomatically and carefully.)
Okay.
Canadians died in 911 too, you know.
And, although you may certainly be right that Iraq had nothing to do with 911, the Taliban in Afghanistan most certainly did have something to do with it. They set up, or allowed Osama to set up, training bases, they sheltered him and supported his aims, they refused to stop doing so or to turn the guilty parties over when the US demanded it.
There is certainly a valid argument that the invasion of Iraq was illegitimate. There is no such valid argument over the invasion of Afghanistan.
Canadians died in 911.
That is besides the fact that our international treaties with the USA state that an attack on the USA is an attack on Canada, and vice-versa. The USA is our closest ally and friend. They have defended us since the end of WWII, and when they are in need, and their cause is just, it is our duty to step up to the plate.
There will be more Canadian casualties. Kandahar is a hotbed of Taliban activities, and Canadians will be tracking them down in their holes in the hills, and killing them. And, unfortunately, being killed. For a just cause.
"We sleep peaceful in our beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on our behalf". George Orwell
yes.
since when is revenge the answer to any problem?? Personally I have had a rethink about the Afganistan INVASION. Has it solved the terrorist problem??? Or has it become another territory for the US to "control".....via its puppet strings. Afganistan is not safe , secure or stable. Drug lords are alive and thriving. The "gov't " such as it is .......is immobilized if not paralyzed to do anything significant as it has to remain so tightly secured into a small area it has no idea what is really going on in the country.
It is NOT Only Canadians that died........on 9-11 , many internationals did .
at the time of this invasion......it almost made sense due to the emotional level of things.....and the world support etc.
But like all such drastic actions..........it is also important to rethink them........and evaluate how successful they have been and are in achieving something CONSTRUCTIVE.
War destroys more than it solves.... and should always be the very last resort. War and terrorism are two different things.....and should be addressed differently. (IMHO)
RE: CA Soldier killed -Af
Body of Canadian soldier to be flown back Sunday
The body of the Canadian soldier who died in Afghanistan will be flown back to Canada on Sunday.
Defence Minister Bill Graham, Gen. Rick Hillier and other military brass will be at CFB Trenton to pay their respects to Pte. Braun Scott Woodfield, 24, who died in a driving accident on Thursday.
New information has revealed Woodfield died because the driver of his military vehicle swerved to avoid an approaching car that wasn't using headlights.
After the light armoured vehicle swerved, the driver lost control of the vehicle which went off the highway and rolled over.
Very sad when this happens.
Body of Canadian soldier to be flown back Sunday
The body of the Canadian soldier who died in Afghanistan will be flown back to Canada on Sunday.
Defence Minister Bill Graham, Gen. Rick Hillier and other military brass will be at CFB Trenton to pay their respects to Pte. Braun Scott Woodfield, 24, who died in a driving accident on Thursday.
New information has revealed Woodfield died because the driver of his military vehicle swerved to avoid an approaching car that wasn't using headlights.
After the light armoured vehicle swerved, the driver lost control of the vehicle which went off the highway and rolled over.
Very sad when this happens.
RE: CA Soldier killed -Af
It is news here as it does not happen too often. It was also big news when Naval Leftanent Chris Saunders died in the sub and when our soldiers were killed by Americans in friendly fire in Afghanistan.
Were not used to constant bloodshed like people are in UK and USA. We are a more caring nation and not hardened like UK and USA.
His funeral will probabley be televised as well, like they were with the previous deaths I mentioned. I for one will be watching.
It is news here as it does not happen too often. It was also big news when Naval Leftanent Chris Saunders died in the sub and when our soldiers were killed by Americans in friendly fire in Afghanistan.
Were not used to constant bloodshed like people are in UK and USA. We are a more caring nation and not hardened like UK and USA.
His funeral will probabley be televised as well, like they were with the previous deaths I mentioned. I for one will be watching.
RE: CA Soldier killed -Af
The difference between this happening to a Canadian vs. U.S. soldier :
Canadian soldier swerves to miss and oncoming car, rolls over and takes casualties. News reports a tragic accident.
U.S. soldier wouldn't swerve, takes a head on impact then pumps a few thousand depleted uranium rounds into the crumpled car. News reports a thwarted suicide bombing attempt and the possibly killing of someone's 2nd in command.
The difference between this happening to a Canadian vs. U.S. soldier :
Canadian soldier swerves to miss and oncoming car, rolls over and takes casualties. News reports a tragic accident.
U.S. soldier wouldn't swerve, takes a head on impact then pumps a few thousand depleted uranium rounds into the crumpled car. News reports a thwarted suicide bombing attempt and the possibly killing of someone's 2nd in command.
I hate to see Canadian soldiers die for nothing. This sort of thing is going to happen. I'm sure speed was a factor. Speed can either save your life or kill you.
I see two canadians were kidnapped in Iraq. Though they were doing humanitarian work, they were in danger. This is a symptom of the way the occupation is failing.
I see two canadians were kidnapped in Iraq. Though they were doing humanitarian work, they were in danger. This is a symptom of the way the occupation is failing.
No kidding juan! Die for nothing is right! I was reading the book review this morning: Friendly Fire: the untold story of the U.S. bombing that killed four canadian sildiers in Afghanistan, by michael friscolanti.
Final passage in the reprimand issued to Major Harry "Physcho" Schmidt froom US airforce Gen. Bruce Carlson:
"Following the incident in question, you lied about the reasons why you engaged in the target after you were directed to hold fire, and than you sought to blame others. You had the right to remain silent, but not the right to lie. In short, the final casualty of the engagement over kandahar on 17 April 2002 was your integrity"
Final passage in the reprimand issued to Major Harry "Physcho" Schmidt froom US airforce Gen. Bruce Carlson:
"Following the incident in question, you lied about the reasons why you engaged in the target after you were directed to hold fire, and than you sought to blame others. You had the right to remain silent, but not the right to lie. In short, the final casualty of the engagement over kandahar on 17 April 2002 was your integrity"
RE: CA Soldier killed -Af
We should pull out of Afghanistan. We do not need to be there. That "war" in Afghanistan is going to be a long drawn out situation. (Just like with Iraq) Amazing with Americas so called military might there is no end in site to either conflicts. Utterly amazing.
We should pull out of Afghanistan. We do not need to be there. That "war" in Afghanistan is going to be a long drawn out situation. (Just like with Iraq) Amazing with Americas so called military might there is no end in site to either conflicts. Utterly amazing.
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Military might is not what it takes to win the war. The principle of the war is the most important. Not one Afghan citizen was aboard the planes that hit the twin towers. Yet they bombed the hell of Afghanistan, making people there resent them even more. The same with Iraq. False accusations, occupying a sovereign country, killing and maiming people, torture, lies, puppet govt. etc.
Military might is not what it takes to win the war. The principle of the war is the most important. Not one Afghan citizen was aboard the planes that hit the twin towers. Yet they bombed the hell of Afghanistan, making people there resent them even more. The same with Iraq. False accusations, occupying a sovereign country, killing and maiming people, torture, lies, puppet govt. etc.
Europe and Canada did not disagree on Afghanistan, precisely because it was a failed state run by the Taliban and its high court of beheadings on the local soccer field.
And the failed states are the exact locations where Osama-bin-forgotten forged his al Qaeda (translated as "the base") and built his training camps.
Iraq is a whole other matter, and the President used it opportunely or rather more misfortunately.
We need to leave there, with an apology and judgement cast upon us, hoping the world will want to help and take over the mess we stirred up.
But I still hope for the big IF.
The big IF that Iraq will continue with a federation democracy, with elections and a parliament.
And the failed states are the exact locations where Osama-bin-forgotten forged his al Qaeda (translated as "the base") and built his training camps.
Iraq is a whole other matter, and the President used it opportunely or rather more misfortunately.
We need to leave there, with an apology and judgement cast upon us, hoping the world will want to help and take over the mess we stirred up.
But I still hope for the big IF.
The big IF that Iraq will continue with a federation democracy, with elections and a parliament.
RE: CA Soldier killed -Af
Jim.
The Taliban were in the US meeting with congress and senate and president and everyone else. When they disagreed on the fact that the US is interested in using Afghanistan as a launching pad for whatever reason, bad stuff started to happen.
You have to remember Jim, that OBL was supported by your government while in Afghanistan to fight the soviets.
Jim.
The Taliban were in the US meeting with congress and senate and president and everyone else. When they disagreed on the fact that the US is interested in using Afghanistan as a launching pad for whatever reason, bad stuff started to happen.
You have to remember Jim, that OBL was supported by your government while in Afghanistan to fight the soviets.