By 2008- everyone entering the US will need a passport

missile

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I'm told it's 88 dollars to get a passport .Seems like a high price just to do a little cross order shopping!This is bound to hurt the small border cities in Maine.
 

Just the Facts

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It's their country. If they want passports for entry, get a passport to enter. What's the big deal. I already got a passport to go to the U.S. Don't need one, but I've heard it eliminates the odds of having any hassle, so I got one. We need to stop whining about every little thing the U.S. does. Suck it up and get a passport, or stay home. Simple.
 

FirstKnight

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Just the Facts said:
It's their country. If they want passports for entry, get a passport to enter. What's the big deal. I already got a passport to go to the U.S. Don't need one, but I've heard it eliminates the odds of having any hassle, so I got one. We need to stop whining about every little thing the U.S. does. Suck it up and get a passport, or stay home. Simple.

There Ya Go... I agree.

No body ever begs us to cross into the USA. They do have rules and they are changing them monthly as of late.

They are like any other set of rules, obey or don't obey. They really don't care. Like any other set of rules we also never have the choice of agreeing or disagreeing to a point of breaking them. ;)

By the way...It's going to get worse before it gets better.Come May 1st...Any Canadian or USA driver not having a valid FAST card will no longer be able to cross into the USA carrying Canadian goods by way of Pre Authorized Permit or Clearance into the USA.No more bar coded authorizations being faxed ahead of the truck so that it may be cleared immediately, instead a fine for wasting the US customs time and efforts to the Driver,Company and Shipper.

Considering the USA is our largest importer at approximately 87% of all Canadian product, that holds a higher concern rate than the regular couple or family wanting to do some USA shopping or otherwise. ;) Or the triviality of personal passports that suit our neighbors security needs or advancements.
 

Reverend Blair

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The long-standing fact that passports weren't needed between our countries makes this an irritant. The reluctance of both Martin and Harper to immediately call for reciprocal action in the name of Canadian security shows both the Liberals and the Conservatives to be as submissive as whipped puppies.

The 9-11 terrorists were all in the US legally. The latest security report out of the US shows that their security is still lacking. They have a gun problem. They have a history of homegrown terrorism.

To not immediately and without question say that US citizens entering Canada will require passports is ridiculous.
 

hwacker

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Reverend Blair said:
The long-standing fact that passports weren't needed between our countries makes this an irritant. The reluctance of both Martin and Harper to immediately call for reciprocal action in the name of Canadian security shows both the Liberals and the Conservatives to be as submissive as whipped puppies.

The 9-11 terrorists were all in the US legally. The latest security report out of the US shows that their security is still lacking. They have a gun problem. They have a history of homegrown terrorism.

To not immediately and without question say that US citizens entering Canada will require passports is ridiculous.

The open hole we call immigration may have something to do with this.
 

hwacker

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Reverend Blair said:
The open, festering wound we call hwacker is grasping at straws.

yeah i'm grasping, but i have my passport and greencard to boot so don't matter to me.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: By 2008- everyone ent

Just stay down south, tallywacker. No crawling home when your job gets off-shored. No crying when the knives start pointing at your throat.
 

hwacker

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Reverend Blair said:
Just stay down south, tallywacker. No crawling home when your job gets off-shored. No crying when the knives start pointing at your throat.

too funny i work offshore. if you had my skills you might get to see the world too , and get paid at the same time.
 

mrmom2

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This stuff is only the beginning for the US .Hardend check points on all the major highways was just passed down there .Sometime next year you go down there and you get"Your papers please"There next big push is for a world I.D. card .They just passed their national ID
 

Twila

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RE: By 2008- everyone ent

FirstKnight,

Will you please tell me more about the changes on May1st. What's a company exporting to the states (from Canada) needing to do? Is this tied to PNSI and FDA? Is there paperwork the company exporting is suppose to fill out or is it up to the trucker?
 

MMMike

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Re: RE: By 2008- everyone ent

Reverend Blair said:
The long-standing fact that passports weren't needed between our countries makes this an irritant. The reluctance of both Martin and Harper to immediately call for reciprocal action in the name of Canadian security shows both the Liberals and the Conservatives to be as submissive as whipped puppies.

The 9-11 terrorists were all in the US legally. The latest security report out of the US shows that their security is still lacking. They have a gun problem. They have a history of homegrown terrorism.

To not immediately and without question say that US citizens entering Canada will require passports is ridiculous.

Yeah, Rev, lets retaliate out of spite! You'd have to be a moron not to see that the U.S. has far higher border security than does Canada. Why would they leave the back door open? It makes sense to apply the same standards to Canada, unless we want to move to a North American security perimeter. It is a minimal imposition.

As far as us requiring the same from US citizens - this decision should be made based on a wholesale review of our border security, not simply tit for tat retaliation.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: By 2008- everyone ent

I listed four valid points for requiring Americans to have passport to enter Canada. Want some more?

They have a crime problem. There are certain very vocal elements in the US that are very anti-Canadian. They have several spy agencies. They have deported at least one Canadian citizen to a third country. Cars, including US law-enforcement, have been running our border without stopping.
 

MMMike

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Re: RE: By 2008- everyone ent

Reverend Blair said:
I listed four valid points for requiring Americans to have passport to enter Canada. Want some more?

They have a crime problem. There are certain very vocal elements in the US that are very anti-Canadian. They have several spy agencies. They have deported at least one Canadian citizen to a third country. Cars, including US law-enforcement, have been running our border without stopping.

I still don't see how requiring passports from Americans entering Canada have anything to do with these things you have listed.
 

missile

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Better border security is needed here to keep out all the future American draft dodgers.We don't need,or want,any of those "drybacks" in our country.BTW,I am only half kidding about this.