By 2008- everyone entering the US will need a passport

[Reverend Blair]

I still don't see how requiring passports from Americans entering Canada have anything to do with these things you have listed.

It shows that they have many undesirables in their country that we don't want in ours. Official passports would keep them from obtaining fake identification and slipping over the border.

It's the exact same argument the Americans are making to require us to have passports.

 

[Pipelinewife]

I live in the heart of oil, natural gas, coal and forest reserves in northern B.C. Every morning when I drive to the gym I have to pass very long lines of parked frac trucks owned by Schlumberger, Halliburton, Opsco etc. etc.. Every American drilling outfit is active here. I can see the Alaska Highway from my house and daily hundreds of logging trucks are feeding the local pulp mills stripping all the northeast B.C. I live 60 miles below to huge hydro electric dams on the Peace River that, if currently were to shut down half the lights in California would go out. Natural gas pipelines criss-cross our land all heading SOUTH. I have heard evil rumours of twinning WATER lines with these pipelines to the US. NOW tell me I need a passport!

 

[mrmom2]

Amerians Having passports to get in to Canada is a moot point !Their goverment is going to require them to have them to get back into the US .They will need them whether they like it or not

 

[MMMike]

I still don't see how requiring passports from Americans entering Canada have anything to do with these things you have listed.

It shows that they have many undesirables in their country that we don't want in ours. Official passports would keep them from obtaining fake identification and slipping over the border.

It's the exact same argument the Americans are making to require us to have passports.

No no no! That argument doesn't hold water - there is no evidence these 'undesirables' want to come into Canada at all. What the U.S. is saying is that they distrust our border security, or at least have no control over it. As such, it doesn't make sense for them to have laxer border controls for people coming from here. This makes total sense.

I have no problem if we decide for real security reasons we will also require passports at the American border. But this decision should be based on reason, not because we are miffed at the new rules!

 

[Reverend Blair]

The Hells Angels were just partying in Winnipeg, including representatives from all over the US. I see that as evidence they want into Canada.

We just deported a man to Germany under a security certificate because he had ties to white supremacists in the US.

The southern border of the US suffers an influx of illegal immigrants every night.

Those are all security risks, Mike. Specific examples of the US not keeping itself secure.

 

[mrmom2]

Its moot fellas They are going to have to cary passports to get back in to their own country its in the bill

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: By 2008- everyone ent

But are we going to ask to see them? If we don't, then they can enter the country under a false name and return under their own...or stay here indefinitely.

 

[FirstKnight]

Re: RE: By 2008- everyone ent

FirstKnight,

Will you please tell me more about the changes on May1st. What's a company exporting to the states (from Canada) needing to do? Is this tied to PNSI and FDA? Is there paperwork the company exporting is suppose to fill out or is it up to the trucker?

As of May 1st....No FAST Card, no Entry with goods..

It has to do with this Twila

http://www.dellwill.com/Brass.htm

This is the program that allows us to fax ahead our customs documents or have a bar coded entry release at the border. At one time all we needed was a birth certificate and picture ID (Drivers licence) to gain entry to the US. Now come May 1st, anyone trying to enter the USA with exported goods from Canada will have to provide a FAST Card..

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/import/communications_to_industry/advance_info/brasstrade_enforce.xml

If they do fax or try to enter with a Bar Coded shipment without FAST authority, they will be fined as well as the company and shipper in some cases. This is going to be a serious issue, considering many of the drivers cannot obtain a FAST card due to whatever reasons..Criminal,DUI's..Etc,Etc..It's a long list of cannot's,do not's on both sides of the border asto gaining the FAST authority.

The FAST program itself is an All Knowing procedure as far as the personal life of the driver is concerned. Like I said, the US knows as much about my life history and movements, taxes and monies, employment as does our own gov't.

 

[Twila]

RE: By 2008- everyone ent

Yikes! Sounds like the company I work for is going to find it harder to get our product to it's destination.......

 

[peapod]

Well I for one won't do it...I don't need to go to america, there is enough right here in my own country.

 

[FirstKnight]

Re: RE: By 2008- everyone ent

Yikes! Sounds like the company I work for is going to find it harder to get our product to it's destination.......

Well.... I don't know who their carrier is, but I'm sure whoever it is, knows well of this very important issue. It's well advertised at the customs boothes crossing into the USA. (Commercial Lanes).. Every booth has a reminder of the May 1st deadline..

I'm sure your carrier knows.. Or does your company actually own it's own trucks?

 

[Twila]

RE: By 2008- everyone ent

No, we don't have our own trucks. With the amount of changes in the last year to exporting and importing I was just worried that it would be just 1 more thing we'll be told we need to do too late.

Which seems to happen a fair amount. Course, if we had a better customs broker this wouldn't be such an issue.

 

[mrmom2]

The corporate media has already started its spin about the passports in our local paper .Their saying don't rush out and get one of course the Feds couldn't handle the stampede.IE the gun registry. Wonder how much this is going to cost us taxpayers?They also said this was probably a good thing now all passports will require some kind of biometric scanning IE fingerprints or retinal scans .This will lead to a national ID card for sure there is no doubt about it :x In turn it will lead to a world ID card .Are you people ready for a complete track and trace system ?Everything you buy, every where you go,everthing you do tracked and traced :evil: .I feel sorry for our kids there going to live in a very Orwellian polluted world we have left them

 

[no1important]

RE: By 2008- everyone ent

It is just another way "america" wants to control the population of the world. America is a paranoid evil violent society and unfortunatly I do not have any ideas to stop them without violence.

 

[Twila]

RE: By 2008- everyone ent

Retinal scan is already being done. It's a "fast pass" system for those who travel frequently and who don't want to stand in customs lines.

Now, that being said, the line up's for fast pass are just as long because of the amount of frequent travellors. Isn't that a kick in the head?

 

[MMMike]

Re: RE: By 2008- everyone ent

It is just another way "america" wants to control the population of the world. America is a paranoid evil violent society and unfortunatly I do not have any ideas to stop them without violence.

Yeah, America wants to "control the world" by setting requirements for entry in their own country. :roll: If you don't like it, you don't have to go.

 

[FirstKnight]

Re: RE: By 2008- everyone ent

Course, if we had a better customs broker this wouldn't be such an issue.

We use AEI Danzas..We have a good report, never any concerns.

 

[FirstKnight]

will require some kind of biometric scanning IE fingerprints

It's an electronic/PC/Scanner...Very simple, no blue/black ink..Takes 2 minutes.

I had it done for my FAST card..

 

[Twila]

RE: By 2008- everyone ent

I have a passport. Because I've travelled to countries that required it.

Not once did I think that it was unfair. I see the same thing with the US. If they require a passport and I want to go there then I get a passport. It's all about choice. It's not like you're going to have to apply every year for a new passport. There good for 7 yrs! This works out to $11.43 a year.

 

[mrmom2]

I don't intend on going to the US and I know you need a passport to go anywhere in the world.The thing that bugs mr is where are these biometric markers going to go In whos data bases?You give that stuff up whats next DNA .Next thing you know insurance companys are denying you insurance because of something they found in your DNA .Where does it all end ?Are we going to chip everybody next?