Bush's Home makes Al Gore's environmentalism, brush.

[Cobalt_Kid]

If it wasn't for Gore and people like him we wouldn't be as aware of the seriousness of the Global Warming problem as we are. There are some that are still trying to put the genie back in the bottle because of the emmense profits to be made extracting and selling fossil fuels even though it's becoming obvious what the consequences are.

As far as I'm concerned the current attacks on Gore are just another aspect of the oil industry trying to avoid responsibility for its action out of self-interest. Gore represents a real alternative to a self-destructive economic model, anyone who claims the current path we're taking is preferable to a sustainable model as advocated by him and others is either lying or insane.

 

[EagleSmack]

If it wasn't for Gore and people like him we wouldn't be as aware of the seriousness of the Global Warming problem as we are. There are some that are still trying to put the genie back in the bottle because of the emmense profits to be made extracting and selling fossil fuels even though it's becoming obvious what the consequences are.

As far as I'm concerned the current attacks on Gore are just another aspect of the oil industry trying to avoid responsibility for its action out of self-interest. Gore represents a real alternative to a self-destructive economic model, anyone who claims the current path we're taking is preferable to a sustainable model as advocated by him and others is either lying or insane.

Global warming... that is just another things for the green folks to complain about and attack the oil companies. The longer this hype goes on the more and more it gets shot full of holes. It is a way for liberals to squeeze money, just like Kyoto. There was no genie.

I am all for alternative fuel sources. I long for the day when we are free of the bonds of foreign oil and the oil companies.

As to your last sentence, to me that means "You are either with us or against us." Boy that sounds familiar.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Global warming... that is just another things for the green folks to complain about and attack the oil companies. The longer this hype goes on the more and more it gets shot full of holes. It is a way for liberals to squeeze money, just like Kyoto. There was no genie.

I am all for alternative fuel sources. I long for the day when we are free of the bonds of foreign oil and the oil companies.

As to your last sentence, to me that means "You are either with us or against us." Boy that sounds familiar.

I'm waiting for the loud pop when people like you finally pull your head out of your ass and look at the world around you. The evidence for global warming is indisputable except for those who've been profiting hugely from the golden goose which has been crapping fossil fuels for a couple of hundred years.

In the long run there's only one source of energy we should be using and that's solar power. Moving to a sustainable energy model means breaking a global economic power structure that's deeply entrenched and resistant to any real change. But change is coming whether we like it or not, the only question now remaining is how severe that change will be.

 

[EagleSmack]

I'm waiting for the loud pop when people like you finally pull your head out of your ass and look at the world around you. The evidence for global warming is indisputable except for those who've been profiting hugely from the golden goose which has been crapping fossil fuels for a couple of hundred years.

In the long run there's only one source of energy we should be using and that's solar power. Moving to a sustainable energy model means breaking a global economic power structure that's deeply entrenched and resistant to any real change. But change is coming whether we like it or not, the only question now remaining is how severe that change will be.

Well keep waiting for that POP. It is a sham... a green scheme now. Global Warming is now an unregulated money making scheme for the likes of Gore. He says we are in a planetary emergency yet he still consumes tons of energy a year. He claims a planetary crisis yet he still allows the most toxic and environmentally unfriendly type of mining (Zinc) to happen on his own farm land. Why does he allow toxic mining. He can give you 500.000 reasons with this $ symbol in front of it.

Scientist who oppose Global Warming are slandered and alienated by the big money (and growing)Global Warming alarmist.

Check this link out...

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,176495.shtml

By the way... are you carbon neutral? Do you flush money away?

 

[#juan]

I'm waiting for the loud pop when people like you finally pull your head out of your ass and look at the world around you. The evidence for global warming is indisputable except for those who've been profiting hugely from the golden goose which has been crapping fossil fuels for a couple of hundred years.

In the long run there's only one source of energy we should be using and that's solar power. Moving to a sustainable energy model means breaking a global economic power structure that's deeply entrenched and resistant to any real change. But change is coming whether we like it or not, the only question now remaining is how severe that change will be.

You are right there. One look at all the new bare ground in the Arctic that has been covered in ice for thousands of years should be a hint that something is happening. There is so much evidence that our world is heating up, I wonder why the neocon right wing nuts can't see it. The only explanation is that they don't want to see it because burning fossil fuels is still too profitable.

 

[EagleSmack]

You are right there. One look at all the new bare ground in the Arctic that has been covered in ice for thousands of years should be a hint that something is happening. There is so much evidence that our world is heating up, I wonder why the neocon right wing nuts can't see it. The only explanation is that they don't want to see it because burning fossil fuels is still too profitable.

Funny how left wingbats point to a patch of earth and say "Look... you see."... then ignore places that are actually getting colder and say "Oh that is just local weather." Global Warming nuts can't even get their computer models to work right and they just tell us to believe.

Anyone buy carbon credits yet? Anyone?

 

[#juan]

Funny how left wingbats point to a patch of earth and say "Look... you see."... then ignore places that are actually getting colder and say "Oh that is just local weather." Global Warming nuts can't even get their computer models to work right and they just tell us to believe.

Anyone buy carbon credits yet? Anyone?

Look at the mean global temperatures which are steadily climbing. A few local warm spots mean nothing.

 

[EagleSmack]

Look at the mean global temperatures which are steadily climbing. A few local warm spots mean nothing.

Once again... the earth's climate will always climb and fall... always. It will grow warm and then it will grow cold. It always has, it always will. We have had tropical forests in what is now the Midwest, we have also had massive glaciers cover half the planet, receed... and come back... and receed. There have been mutiple ice ages and multiple periods of warming.

This Global Warming is all about Global Governing. It is frustrated hippies who finally have a cause and people who will listen. It is about attacking big business and extorting as much as possible.

I'll ask again... have any of you bought carbon credits to become carbon neutral?

 

[#juan]

 

[Johnny Utah]

Funny how left wingbats point to a patch of earth and say "Look... you see."... then ignore places that are actually getting colder and say "Oh that is just local weather." Global Warming nuts can't even get their computer models to work right and they just tell us to believe.

Anyone buy carbon credits yet? Anyone?

Al Gore has made 100 Million off Global Warming..

 

[unclepercy]

I know, it only makes sense that his preparing for "skyrocketing energy cost"
His a hypocrite because he, in the past, owned a oil business and he is the president who was and is devoting to have more oil in their hands...for example, George W.H. Bush's relationship with Saudis and their contribution to American economy..which is EVERYTHING we have.
Bush is oil guy, not some environmental guy who would own such "environmental" friendly house.
His house makes Al Gore look like a tiny dirty rat.

EDIT: I guess I'm contradicting too much. But oh well.

You talk like you just fell off the turnip truck. Laura says that she and George have already decided to settle in Dallas after his presidency is over. I have seen it in the paper too. They intend to keep the ranch in Crawford, but they are looking at houses in Highland Park. I have seen the newspaper listings. This is the BIG & RICH (and old money) high-society section of Dallas. It is our Brentwood.

"His house makes Al Gore look like a tiny dirty rat?" UH, they haven't even decided on the house yet.
But lucky us, we will get every tiny bit of news from then on, since George will be a Dallasite. :lol:
But oh well.

Uncle

 

[YoungJoonKim]

Okay let me outline what I take critical of or what I don't

First, I don't care about global warming. I don't care about climate change and I don't care about rising of sea level. These tragedies, we can adapt and move on.
Problem is this, lack of oil and meeting of supply and demand.
If any of you know, oil ain't so infinite, it runs out eventually and this is bigger than all the wars of western civilization had fought and won or lost, modern I mean.
Losing oil means losing of our cars, industry, ships, imports, manufacturing, trucks, air flight (yeah, no air plane, imagine what it will do to business man), and..almost everything.

No wonder I am left, no wonder I blame oil company because they don't have effective alternative plans.

I won't argue that alternative energy is solution, its doesn't work yet.
Either it become privitized or be part of commerce for "profit," nah.
And just imagine whiching billions of cars into alternative energy. Poof, yeah right.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

"His house makes Al Gore look like a tiny dirty rat?" UH, they haven't even decided on the house yet.

Yes, there are still time. I suppose I jumped a little bit hehe

 

[Trex]

Okay let me outline what I take critical of or what I don't

First, I don't care about global warming. I don't care about climate change and I don't care about rising of sea level. These tragedies, we can adapt and move on.
Problem is this, lack of oil and meeting of supply and demand.
If any of you know, oil ain't so infinite, it runs out eventually and this is bigger than all the wars of western civilization had fought and won or lost, modern I mean.
Losing oil means losing of our cars, industry, ships, imports, manufacturing, trucks, air flight (yeah, no air plane, imagine what it will do to business man), and..almost everything.

No wonder I am left, no wonder I blame oil company because they don't have effective alternative plans.

I won't argue that alternative energy is solution, its doesn't work yet.
Either it become privitized or be part of commerce for "profit," nah.
And just imagine whiching billions of cars into alternative energy. Poof, yeah right.

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What the heck are you trying to say? Any chance at a spelling and grammer checker?

So....... I think you are saying that you blame the oil companies for not replacing oil with an effective alternative?
That makes no sense. After all, their business is oil.

Why not blame the green companies, the solar panel manufacter's, the green mutual fund groups?
It is their stated job to replace oil. Why have they not put the oil companies out of business yet?
When can we expect a cost effective alternative? What are they doing with investors money?

 

[YoungJoonKim]

What the heck are you trying to say? Any chance at a spelling and grammer checker?

Thanks, I will use it later.
I don't need you're insult, keep it to you're head.

So....... I think you are saying that you blame the oil companies for not replacing oil with an effective alternative?
That makes no sense. After all, their business is oil.

Frankly, yes, and it makes sense because they know the oil production will start to decline in less than a decade.
Free market don't FIX itself, the change comes when there is a effect, therefore, result. As for oil, the peak and skyrocketing oil prices will be a example how market will fix itself. By that time, I am afraid, it will be too late.

Why not blame the green companies, the solar panel manufacter's, the green mutual fund groups?
It is their stated job to replace oil. Why have they not put the oil companies out of business yet?
When can we expect a cost effective alternative? What are they doing with investors money?

I just told you that I don't have faith in alternative energy nor industry.
Nor do I have faith in oil although it consumes every single part of my daily life.
Its funny, its inevitable, and unavoidable.
Just look!
The road made for cars, big ones too.
Industry made just for oil.
Economy, just for oil.

that reminds me..
Oil is our God.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

#


Why not blame the green companies, the solar panel manufacter's, the green mutual fund groups?
It is their stated job to replace oil. Why have they not put the oil companies out of business yet?
When can we expect a cost effective alternative? What are they doing with investors money?

Actually, you are right.
You are right about all those. I won't make argument against those.

So, thank you for confirming the doomsday of western civilization.
you have just shown me the evidence of how market is blind towards future and how it can't correct itself unless faced with "special circumstances"

 

[EagleSmack]

#


What the heck are you trying to say? Any chance at a spelling and grammer checker?

So....... I think you are saying that you blame the oil companies for not replacing oil with an effective alternative?
That makes no sense. After all, their business is oil.

Why not blame the green companies, the solar panel manufacter's, the green mutual fund groups?
It is their stated job to replace oil. Why have they not put the oil companies out of business yet?
When can we expect a cost effective alternative? What are they doing with investors money?

Hey Trex... welcome. I am not sure where you stand on the whole issue as this post caught my eye but your last part was right on the money.

People have been squawking since the early 1970's about alternatives to oil. Perhaps even further than that but my recollection only goes back that far. I remember carrying the green plastic ecology lunch box. I remember talks on solar power in Middle School, hydro power, etc. Well here we are in a new century and the Eco-Nuts have done nothing but complain. They have been flooded with cash and what do they do? They blow it all on SUPER COMPLAINING. World trips preaching their Gospel according to Gore, gobbling up tons and tons of energy and asking for more funds to MAKE oil companies put themselves out of business. Living in massive mansions and sucking more resources than any normal person would do with 4 SUVs.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

People have been squawking since the early 1970's about alternatives to oil. Perhaps even further than that but my recollection only goes back that far. I remember carrying the green plastic ecology lunch box. I remember talks on solar power in Middle School, hydro power, etc. Well here we are in a new century and the Eco-Nuts have done nothing but complain. They have been flooded with cash and what do they do? They blow it all on SUPER COMPLAINING. World trips preaching their Gospel according to Gore, gobbling up tons and tons of energy and asking for more funds to MAKE oil companies put themselves out of business. Living in massive mansions and sucking more resources than any normal person would do with 4 SUVs.

I know this is not for me but yes, precisely. I dont have faith in our or any alternative energy resources. Unless we have some crazy man with crazy vision, taking control of everything blah blah blah or facing serious tragedy and it resulting massive changes in our society.

We/Executives/Industry/ETC are at the core of the problem, we must work but apparently, majority of people would refer Superbowl over the problem.
Good society, not negotiable to change until their car stops running.