Brexit May Not Happen

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After all those Blackleaf threads too....


Theresa May is so weak her ministers are now publicly suggesting that Brexit won’t happen

Phillip Lee, the Justice Minister, suggested last night that Britain could stay in the European Union after all – and he is still a member of the Government.

He commented on the leak of the official assessment that all Brexit scenarios would result in lower national income in 15 years, saying on Twitter: “If these figures turn out to be anywhere near right, there would be a serious question over whether a government could legitimately lead a country along a path that the evidence and rational consideration indicate would be damaging.”

Dr Lee – he was a hospital doctor who still practises occasionally as a part-time GP – is a refreshing politician who says what he thinks. He got into trouble at the Conservative Party annual conference in October when he described the welfare state, including the NHS, as a “Ponzi scheme” that was “about to collapse”.

His Twitter account is a welcome break from the usual robo-minister platitudes. But yesterday’s comments come close to disagreeing with Government policy on Brexit. Lee is commendably honest. Instead of pretending, as Theresa May did on her way to China, that the leaked assessment could be ignored because it did not cover the “special partnership” scenario that she is trying to negotiate, he accepts that any form of Brexit would have a negative effect.

The Prime Minister insults the voters’ intelligence, because her special free trade agreement would still reduce long-term GDP by more than one of the scenarios that was modelled, namely staying in the single market. This would still cut GDP by 2 per cent after 15 years, according to the leaked assessment.

The only way round the assessment is to say economic forecasts are uncertain, and that there are other benefits to leaving the EU. But the ambitious Lee, who voted Remain in the referendum, has decided to say what he thinks.

If he continues to think it, he will have to resign or be sacked. No doubt Phillip Lee will issue some kind of clarification shortly, or else No 10 will once again have to begin a small reshuffle of the junior ranks.

Theresa May is so weak her ministers are now publicly suggesting that Brexit won
 

Curious Cdn

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Cameron's has to go down in history as one of Britain's greatest dufuses for running a referendum, in the first place. That's no way to govern anything bigger than a Swiss Canton.
 

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Global Free Market Capitalism has failed. It's put the world into a tailspin. The only alternative is economic nationalism and populism. It'll happen in fits and starts but it progress is irreversable, which had them quaking in their Gucci boots in Davos. With it will go the multiculturalist, feminist, homosexuality infused post moral culture of death that is destroying Western Christian Civilization.
 

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It would be criminal if Britain was to remain in the EU now. They have the potential to set the standard for other countries that are fed up with an unelected kleptocracy.
 

mentalfloss

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Yeah, because you know, the actual wishes of the people as expressed in a referendum are irrelevant.

(sarcasm)

Yeah, because you know, someone said that the actual wishes of the people as expressed in a referendum are irrelevant.

(sarcasm)


You're such a nothing, blowhard Colpy.

Like a relic of 80s politics that doesn't work anymore.
 

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He commented on the leak of the official assessment that all Brexit scenarios would result in lower national income in 15 years, saying on Twitter: “If these figures turn out to be anywhere near right, there would be a serious question over whether a government could legitimately lead a country along a path that the evidence and rational consideration indicate would be damaging.”

We were also told during the referendum campaign that a vote to leave would straight away cause major damage to the economy, including slower growth and higher unemployment. Since then, however, growth has increased and unemployment has fallen.

It's just Project Fear all over again and, like during the campaign itself, the British people aren't stupid enough to fall for it.

And Brexit will go ahead. The British people voted for it.

Jacob Rees-Mogg says Treasury 'fiddling figures' on Brexit

3 February 2018
BBC News


Jacob Rees-Mogg chairs the Conservative Party's European Research Group

Prominent Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg has said he believes Treasury officials are "fiddling the figures" on Brexit.

Earlier this week, the MP condemned an economic forecast on the impact of Brexit written by civil servants.

The leaked report said growth would be lower in each of three different Brexit outcomes than if the UK had stayed in the EU.

The Treasury said its ministers and officials were working hard to deliver the best Brexit deal for Britain.

Tory MP Mr Rees-Mogg told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "If you look at the forecasts the Treasury made before the referendum, they were a humiliation. They were clearly politically influenced."

'Politically advantageous'

He said former Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne had set up the Office for Budget Responsibility, which provides independent analysis of the UK's public finances, because "Treasury forecasts had been politicised".

"And it was thought they were unreliable on political grounds," he added. "With the referendum and with the EU the Treasury has gone back to making forecasts. It was politically advantageous for them in the past. It is the same now.

"So yes, I do think they are fiddling the figures."

A Treasury spokesman said: "The Prime Minister and the Chancellor have said repeatedly that we will be leaving the single market and the customs union. Any suggestion to the contrary is simply false."

Jacob Rees-Mogg says Treasury 'fiddling figures' on Brexit - BBC News