Bill to revise national anthem in tribute to women

Curious Cdn

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Doesn't work. Patriot is all in. Co-operative requires compromise.

Patriot isn't nearly inclusive enough. All of those who DON'T believe in Canada need to be included too if we are to have sunnier ways. No one is left out. Everyone is a winner.
 

Kreskin

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Is "Patriot love" the sort of expression that a proper 21st century Liberal Democracy should be using in their anthem? If doesn't sound at all politically correct, to me. "True cooperative love in all of us command." Whatdya think? Have I captured the zeitgeist?
True communal love in all thy sincere requests.
 

CDNBear

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I sincerely hope most of you understand that this Bill is a calculated attempt to distract attention away from the economy, and JT's ever failing policies.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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May I offer the following suggestion?

Oh, Canada!
Our home and land for now
Empire of peace
And home of the unibrow

From far and wide we all have come
Black white yellow brown and red
LGBT and Q and those
Who haven't decided yet

Muzzies and Joos
Christers and others
Oh Canada
We won't stand on guard, why bother?
 

Remington1

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Bill to revise national anthem in tribute to women



Canadian Liberal MP, Mauril Bélanger, submitted a bill on 27 January, requesting the revision of the Canadian national anthem. According to the bill, the 'O Canada' national anthem should be revised by changing the line, "True patriot love in all thy sons command" to "all of us command".

The news comes as the liberal government, led by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, continues to seek better representation of women in the public sphere. "With my bill, I want to pay tribute to all the women who have worked and fought to build and shape the Canada that we know today," said Bélanger in a statement. "I want to at long last honor their sacrifices and contribution."

Bélanger introduced the bill through an iPad speech app, since he is not able to speak following his diagnosis with Lou Gehrig's disease. Earlier, there have been nearly 10 attempts to revise the Canadian national anthem, however they were all unsuccessful since conservatives said the move is "grammatically unnecessary" or that most of the Canadian soldiers are men.

The last time the anthem was revised was in 1980 when 'O Canada' replaced 'God Save the Queen'. "For women, this will means we are included and valued for our labours in building this country. It means this for all Canadians," said Nancy Ruth, a Conservative senator.

"There's a small number of people here who really want it changed and a small number who don't," said David Kendall, a Canadian anthem expert, reported The Guardian. "But most don't mind what it says as long as they get to sing it at the hockey."

Earlier in 2015, Bélanger had said, while addressing the Canadian House of Commons, reported USAToday: "Let us start singing 'all of us' instead ... That is the right thing to do, and I hope we will do so and represent the evolution of our society over the last century."

Canada: Bill to revise national anthem in tribute to women

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It's 2016
I would not bother, but I have no issue with this one. Go for it, it's a word.
 

Kreskin

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May I offer the following suggestion?

Oh, Canada!
Our home and land for now
Empire of peace
And home of the unibrow

From far and wide we all have come
Black white yellow brown and red
LGBT and Q and those
Who haven't decided yet

Muzzies and Joos
Christers and others
Oh Canada
We won't stand on guard, why bother?
That tugs on the heart strings.
 

Curious Cdn

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may i offer the following suggestion?

Oh, canada!
Our home and land for now
empire of peace
and home of the unibrow

from far and wide we all have come
black white yellow brown and red
lgbt and q and those
who haven't decided yet

muzzies and joos
christers and others
oh canada
we won't stand on guard, why bother?
that's it!!!
 

darkbeaver

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This is not a Government bill; it is a private member's bill that was introduced by a back-bencher. Private member's bills have strict blocks of time scheduled for their consideration and passage in the House, so it is not possible for something like this bill on the national anthem to displace or demote the priority of Government business.

Unless some leftists and Maxist rabble rousers make it an issue. I think something like this would be a very good diversion for the Canadian people to consider. It would engender a sense of civic pride etc etc at a time when we are inundated with economic disintegration and war. This would be cheerful, hopeful, time consuming.
Why is thier only one unnative maple leaf and two colours on our national flag? What about the great diversity? When will we have a more approchable flag?


Unless some leftists and Maxist rabble rousers make it an issue. I think something like this would be a very good diversion for the Canadian people to consider. It would engender a sense of civic pride etc etc at a time when we are inundated with economic disintegration and war. This would be cheerful, hopeful, time consuming.
Why is thier only one unnative maple leaf and two colours on our national flag? What about the great diversity? When will we have a more approchable flag?
I would enlist school children first of all. Stuff them with take home anthem project/homework for a few months, boom it's a movement.
 

davesmom

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I think it's hair-splitting, nitpicking and hardly a priority in these troubled times.
If women feel slighted by the phrase, 'in all our sons command' they need to work on their self esteem problem.
We ought to be able to take it for granted that people who accomplish good things for the country do it for the good of the country, not so they will get praised for it.
 

Ludlow

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Maybe some things related to the empowerment of women are just for the show,,kinda like patronizing in a sense. I'm not Canadian so it ain't none of my bizwax but sometimes I think politicians do things not for honorable motives but just to look good in the eyes of the general public. The motives really aren't sincere me thinks.
 

FiveParadox

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If we really want all genders to be on a level playing field in Canadian politics, then we need to break down systemic and structural biases against women. Some of these biases can be subtle — such as putting men above women in our national anthem. Teaching our children, from the day they're born, to memorize and repeat those lyrics, perpetuating a subtle, but real, thread of patriarchy.

I agree that there are other areas that are more of a priority. However, you folks seem to be pretending that for this bill to exist, and for a change to be made to the lyrics of the national anthem, that the Government must necessarily neglect the economy, or drop our national defences, or bring public services to a halt. This, of course, we know is nonsense.

This private member's bill is short, to-the-point, and does not require any massive commitment of government time and resources; the calls against the bill, on the basis that there are "more important things to do," are thinly-veiled defences of the status quo. That opposition says "A little bit of patriarchy is okay — civil society needs men to be in a bit of a better position; you know, just to keep things running smoothly." This would be easy to implement; there are no good reasons to oppose it.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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If we really want all genders to be on a level playing field in Canadian politics, then we need to break down systemic and structural biases against women. Some of these biases can be subtle — such as putting men above women in our national anthem. Teaching our children, from the day they're born, to memorize and repeat those lyrics, perpetuating a subtle, but real, thread of patriarchy.

I agree that there are other areas that are more of a priority. However, you folks seem to be pretending that for this bill to exist, and for a change to be made to the lyrics of the national anthem, that the Government must necessarily neglect the economy, or drop our national defences, or bring public services to a halt. This, of course, we know is nonsense.

This private member's bill is short, to-the-point, and does not require any massive commitment of government time and resources; the calls against the bill, on the basis that there are "more important things to do," are thinly-veiled defences of the status quo. That opposition says "A little bit of patriarchy is okay — civil society needs men to be in a bit of a better position; you know, just to keep things running smoothly." This would be easy to implement; there are no good reasons to oppose it.

It is a waste of taxpayers time and money.
 

FiveParadox

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It is a waste of taxpayers time and money.

...how?

It isn't a Government bill.

If it passes and is enacted, then boom, the anthem is changed. There is no transition campaign that the Government needs to undertake to do; there is no "Canadian National Anthem transition budget" that needs to be spent; it is a replacement of two words in the schedule to the National Anthem Act.

Opposition to this bill, under the guide of "taxpayers' time and money," is nothing more than a strawman defence. This change would take no effort whatsoever on the part of the Government to enact; to oppose it even in the context of that reality means that you oppose it, in fact, because you think that Canadians should be reminded, every time they sing the national anthem, that you that think that men are, indeed, just a little bit more important than women.