Big Brother in Canada?

Twila

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RE: Big Brother in Canada

Eagle, do you think or know if the extremists are the only ones participating in this insurgency?

I ask because I'd read somewhere (can' remember where now) that there are a number of individuals fighting (in the insurgency) that are there for their own reasons (against US occupation) and some that are mercenaries (yikes!) and some use these situations as training for their own agenda (neo-nazi's)
 

EagleSmack

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Re: RE: Big Brother in Canada

Twila said:
Eagle, do you think or know if the extremists are the only ones participating in this insurgency?

I ask because I'd read somewhere (can' remember where now) that there are a number of individuals fighting (in the insurgency) that are there for their own reasons (against US occupation) and some that are mercenaries (yikes!) and some use these situations as training for their own agenda (neo-nazi's)


You know what Twila... I agree with you 100%. There are people within Iraq fighting the US Forces for things other than what Al Queda and Osama are fighting for. The Baath Party of Sadaam are not quite ready to give in. There are w/o question that they are paying people to fight as mercenaries.

However... this thread drifted to Osama Bin Laden and his reasons for attacking the US. That is where we are.

But heck yes Twila... what you read is correct. The main Insurgency is the remnants of the Baath Party and Sunni Muslims. They know the Shia have the numbers and feel that they will not be represented. They also have been used to a life of power and those days are gone.

Zaquawi is the Al Queda guy on the scene. He is blowing up everyone from Americans, civilians, Iraqi Soldiers, and Police. He is a student of Osama. Although recently Osama asked Zaquawi to plan attacks in the US and he told Osama that he basically had his hands full.
 

Reverend Blair

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I am linking back to the same source for a reason Rev.

Lack of initiative?

You keep going back to the fact that Al Queda and other Muslim Extremist are attacking the US and it's allies for one reason... US Policies in the Middle East.

Cause and effect...one of the baasics of logic and reason.

I am trying to point out to you that they themselves are saying that the sole purpose is the spread of Islam.

That has exactly as much credence as the pictures of cartoon trucks that Powell took to the UN.

You portray them as Reactionaries.

I do. By the way, being a reactionary is not a good thing.

However, you do not want to believe that because it squashes your theory on the reasons behind the war on terror.

Actually my theory, as you call it in that derisive way that only luddites and creationists can manage, is based on evidence stretching back for decades, things that people in the Bush administration have said, actions on both sides, and on and on and on.

While your side is changing their story every ten seconds trying to cover up the fact that you murder people for money, my story has been the same since Reagan was in power...it just keeps getting longer. So you can sit there and try to defend, deny, and lie, but the fact remains that you have no facts to deal with.

You want to blame the US because you really don't like the US.

Not true. I don't like imperialism because killing people for money is wrong.

AND you HATE Bush.

Very true, because killing people for money is wrong.

So you make this topic about my rhetoric when I am simply saying

"OK ... don't believe me... Listen to what they have to say"

Yeah, and I should listen to what George Bush is saying too. :roll: We don't even have turnip trucks around here so I'm pretty sure I didn't just fall off of one.

And you know that what these muslim terrorist are saying does not back up your arguments.

Depends which quotes I choose, doesn't it? You choose all of yours very carefully yet you claim some sort of victory when somebody offers up any link that isn't fully supporting, with exception or digression, of their viewpoint. You have no use for information because you live on the poison of propaganda.

They back up mine.... and you know you can't have that now can you.

I've already shown in one thread how completely inadequate you are at any sort of research. You've shown yourself to be incapable of even using Google to look up basic historical facts. Now you are offering a single site again and again to support a position that no serious political analyst or historian on earth believes.
 

EagleSmack

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Re: RE: Big Brother in Canada?

mrmom2 said:
The Arabs are coming The Arabs are coming Idon't buy it sounds like a load to me !

Well... it is in their words. You can tell them that they are full of crap them. I didn't write the stuff.

Do some research on what is going on in Spain and France and the issues they are having with muslim extremism. It areas that have a muslim majority they are trying to enforce Shar'ia Law and have had some success as they enforce it through fear. Basically they thumb their nose of the laws of the host country and introduce their own.
 

EagleSmack

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Reverend Blair said:
I am linking back to the same source for a reason Rev.

Lack of initiative?

You keep going back to the fact that Al Queda and other Muslim Extremist are attacking the US and it's allies for one reason... US Policies in the Middle East.

Cause and effect...one of the baasics of logic and reason.

I am trying to point out to you that they themselves are saying that the sole purpose is the spread of Islam.

That has exactly as much credence as the pictures of cartoon trucks that Powell took to the UN.

You portray them as Reactionaries.

I do. By the way, being a reactionary is not a good thing.

However, you do not want to believe that because it squashes your theory on the reasons behind the war on terror.

Actually my theory, as you call it in that derisive way that only luddites and creationists can manage, is based on evidence stretching back for decades, things that people in the Bush administration have said, actions on both sides, and on and on and on.

While your side is changing their story every ten seconds trying to cover up the fact that you murder people for money, my story has been the same since Reagan was in power...it just keeps getting longer. So you can sit there and try to defend, deny, and lie, but the fact remains that you have no facts to deal with.

You want to blame the US because you really don't like the US.

Not true. I don't like imperialism because killing people for money is wrong.

AND you HATE Bush.

Very true, because killing people for money is wrong.

So you make this topic about my rhetoric when I am simply saying

"OK ... don't believe me... Listen to what they have to say"

Yeah, and I should listen to what George Bush is saying too. :roll: We don't even have turnip trucks around here so I'm pretty sure I didn't just fall off of one.

And you know that what these muslim terrorist are saying does not back up your arguments.

Depends which quotes I choose, doesn't it? You choose all of yours very carefully yet you claim some sort of victory when somebody offers up any link that isn't fully supporting, with exception or digression, of their viewpoint. You have no use for information because you live on the poison of propaganda.

They back up mine.... and you know you can't have that now can you.

I've already shown in one thread how completely inadequate you are at any sort of research. You've shown yourself to be incapable of even using Google to look up basic historical facts. Now you are offering a single site again and again to support a position that no serious political analyst or historian on earth believes.

I will talk about this later.
But there is a difference between basing all of your points on secondary source research as opposed. You hunt through all of these leftist, biased and anti-US webpages and say

"See EagleSmack... you're wrong"

I based mine on primary research. Primary source research is more difficult to obtain.

But I could sit Osama in front of you and you still would say...

"I don't believe you"

Facts mean nothing.... JUST WIN BABY!