Bell Calls for New TV Fees and Less Consumer Choice

B00Mer

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Don't kid yourself the internet is regulated as well.
Don't believe me?
Check Netflix Canada against Netflix USA, try and sign up up for Amazon Prime Instant Streaming, or just try and check out a radio station from the US. In the first two cases you can't use those service and in the third you may find yourself blocked by the CRTC.

And deeper regulation is coming thanks to Obama and his band of cocksucking fukuppery.

So get a VPN...

StrongVPN.com is what I use. Fools everyone into thinking my Canadian PC is in San Francisco, CA.

You can watch US NetFlix, Vudu, Hulu, and plenty of other US entertainment banned in Canada.

Just because you live in Canada, doesn't mean you have to "Live in Canada." ;)
 

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Sal

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The signal is often lost when you are among 1-200 ft trees which are the norm here. Even military GPS.

btw, here is a link for Canadians, there are also American links at the site. All new all free, so far i have watched many new movies.
MovieTube | Watch Free Movies
wow, thanks, I am just checking out the site now so do we listen to some commercials and then the movie is free or how does it work?

thanks skookumchuck
 
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skookumchuck

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wow, thanks, I am just checking out the site now so do we listen to some commercials and then the movie is free or how does it work?

thanks skookumchuck

I am not sure about the average computer user Sal. I have several blocking apps in FireFox that i use so i do not see ads and most of the bad guys do not see me. eg..... noscript adblock and ghostery. I think that site may need some work in future as there are occasional problems but i have been generally happy.
 

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btw, here is a link for Canadians, there are also American links at the site. All new all free, so far i have watched many new movies.
MovieTube | Watch Free Movies

Well I just watched EXODUS and only at the beginning did it popup to an advertisement.

After than, not one interruption of the movie.



Enjoy it while it lasts, because pulling that much bandwidth for free, it won't last.

Next American Sniper
 

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Bell Media has announced that president Kevin Crull is leaving the company, effective today.


Bell Media's parent company BCE made the announcement in a press release after markets closed Thursday.


It appears the sudden departure is related to a story last month that Crull meddled in the editorial coverage of a CRTC story involving Bell, on Bell-owned network CTV.


After a major CRTC ruling went against Bell's wishes regarding pick-and-pay cable TV, Crull attempted to issue a network-wide directive that CRTC chair Jean-Pierre Blais was not to be included in any CTV coverage of the story that night. Several CTV journalists resisted and in some cases disobeyed the instruction.


The story prompted Blais to publicly chastise Crull, who eventually apologized for his actions.


In Thursday's release, the company thanked Crull for his contributions, but left little doubt that the recent misstep was a factor.


"The independence of Bell Media's news operations is of paramount importance to our company and to all Canadians," BCE president George Cope said in a news release. "There can be no doubt that Bell will always uphold the journalistic standards that have made CTV the most trusted brand in Canadian news."


Crull joined Bell in 2005 and ascended to the top job at the media division in 2011, after the purchase of CTVGlobemedia.


Crull has been replaced by Mary Ann Turcke, who also joined the company in 2005 and was formerly group president of media sales for local TV and radio at the company. She is also a director of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, the entity partially controlled by Bell that owns the Maple Leafs, Raptors and other properties.


She's also on the board at Queen's University, her alma mater, and Sheena's place, a support home for people with eating disorders in Toronto.






Kevin Crull out as Bell Media president, replaced by Mary Ann Turcke - Business - CBC News
 

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Bell Media has announced that president Kevin Crull is leaving the company, effective today.


Bell Media's parent company BCE made the announcement in a press release after markets closed Thursday.


It appears the sudden departure is related to a story last month that Crull meddled in the editorial coverage of a CRTC story involving Bell, on Bell-owned network CTV.


After a major CRTC ruling went against Bell's wishes regarding pick-and-pay cable TV, Crull attempted to issue a network-wide directive that CRTC chair Jean-Pierre Blais was not to be included in any CTV coverage of the story that night. Several CTV journalists resisted and in some cases disobeyed the instruction.


The story prompted Blais to publicly chastise Crull, who eventually apologized for his actions.
You mean corporate executives DON'T always act with perfect, cool, godlike rationality, the way the right-wing economists say they do?

How disappointing.
 

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Sounds like the message Maw Bell is sending to their exects: Meddle and conflab all you can - just don't get caught.







Seems they got caught again..........



Bell is facing a $750-million class action lawsuit over a controversial advertising program that tracked customers’ Internet, telephone and television usage to sell advertising.


The lawsuit alleges Bell broke privacy laws, their contractual obligations, and the Telecommunications Act through their Relevant Advertising Program (RAP), according to a statement from the lawyers involved in launching the suit.



Bell’s RAP sought to track customers’ Internet, telephone and television habits — including specific websites visited — to create profiles for third-party advertisers. Bell discontinued the program this week, after the federal privacy watchdog ruled it violated Canadian privacy law.



The lawsuit was launched by Windsor-based Sutts, Strosberg LLP and Toronto’s Charney Lawyers.



Ted Charney said he believes customers should be compensated for Bell monitoring their activities for advertising purposes while still paying a monthly fee for cellphone, Internet and television services.



“We think $750 million is a very conservative number,” Charney said Thursday evening.



“We think that customers are entitled to a refund for all, or a substantial portion of the fees they’ve been paying for the last year and a half, while they’ve been paying user fees or monthly data plans, Bell (has been) monitoring all their activity and filing customer profiles, using (them) to generate revenue that people were not aware of it or certainly didn’t understand the extent of it, and didn’t have a chance to opt out of it.”



Reached late Thursday evening, Bell spokesperson Jacqueline Michelis said the company had no comment.




Bell announced the program in August 2013, and the company said it notified the initial 5,000,000 customers involved in the months that followed. Bell offered those customers an opportunity to opt-out of the program through following prompts on their customer service website.



The idea was that Bell would act as a middle man between their customers and third-party advertisers, connecting the advertisers to user profiles that fit their target demographic.



Last week, Privacy Commissioner Daniel Therrien’s office ruled that RAP violated Canadian privacy laws, and urged Bell to change the program to require their customers’ explicit consent.



The problem is, once people have to expressly consent to being tracked, not as many people will choose to be involved in a program that requires a massive amount of data.



Bell initially refused the privacy watchdog’s recommendation, but agreed hours after the report was released publicly. Therrien was unconvinced, saying publicly that he’s prepared to seek a federal court order for Bell to change the program.



This week, Bell agreed to withdraw the program altogether and said any future programs would require an explicit, opt-in choice.

Last year, a Bell senior executive told a Senate committee that the company was simply trying to keep up with the targeted ad programs of Internet giants like Google and Facebook.



“We’re used to (targeted ads), we see that all the time, and we think, ‘This is convenient. This is a better mousetrap than ever before.’ Those recommendation engines these vast, global companies are using are based on data mining,” Mirko Bibic, Bell’s executive vice-president of regulatory affairs, told senators last April.



But privacy advocates argue that a telecommunications firm that has access to sensitive information like location, financial data, and Internet traffic is a different breed when it comes to their users’ information, unlike Facebook, which is an opt-in service.




Bell faces $750M lawsuit over advertising program | Toronto Star
 

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I'm sure Rogers will be watching with bated breath, because they're up next

Bell discontinued the program this week, after the federal privacy watchdog ruled it violated Canadian privacy law.

guess they're a safe company now...wonder how this is going to play out
 

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Sounds more like that is what they are trying to do, make 'customers' leave and use Bell Internet instead. In the long run they save money as they aren't broadcasting material (with ads) that nobody is watching. Soon as they find a way to keep the ads alive it will be down to no choice as traditional programming won't be offered.
What will be interesting is to see what kind of programming they can come up with for places like net flix when people will want something of higher quality than they get today. The cooking channel might have to do a few gardening programs as there are only so many ways you can boil water, then add a menu so the viewer can pick the one that will be helpful at the moment.. If you watch it a copy should be kept on your drive and that is used as one of many copies that are used when somebody else wants to watch the same thing. That would save having a bottleneck at one main location that streams to all viewers.

CBC North would be i-phones sending us news rather than us sending them news on a one way system.

The profiling done by youtube when signed in comes up with different versions of what i have already watched so if a new sode of 'mini ice-age comes up it shows up automatically. I don't feel very threatened by that, at least compared to what 'they suggest' I watch when I'm not signed in as that is manipulative as the ones making those programs have gotten free exposure and the content might not warrant a high rating.

Since I don't do TV the info I used to get can still be found and comments are usually allowed so that is additional info that TV never could have provided as that would be 'an option'.
The part that used to piss me off is when the rates came down and I didn't get a notice and getting it changes required me to find it first and then phone in and request the change.
 
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