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Logic 7

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Now plz guys...This is way too much, Israel have crossed all red lines..have used weapons banned internationally....someone needs to stop the violence...half a million lebanese are on the streets with nowhere to go...nothing to eat...no shelter..someone needs to explain this to me ..I wrote a letter to the PM...the war machine needs to stop...why did Israel Bomb the hell out of downtown Beirut yesterday (ashrafiyeh) where we have all the foreigners ...where we have the Gucci and Prada stores not hizbollah's tanks? why is no one able to pressure its machine to stop the killing of the Lebanese army whom four days ago was on its side at heart?
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?ed...ticle_id=74075..
why are they targeting the convoys of milk and medicine?
where is the sense of proportion in the world community? does the world have any decency left? why is the world failing big time this time? why day after another the US is showing its ultimate stupidity in the ME? Lebanon didn't make Iran stronger...didn't create the evil of Iran ...why doesn't someone tell AhmadiNejad to shut up ...statements like" hezbollah will not be disarmed"does not help this catastrophe....Lebanon never threatened to wipe Israel off the map...but Israel is wiping Lebanon off the map....
It is not a matter of being left or right wing ...it is a matter of solidarity with humanity...It's a matter of imbalance in this freaky world ...I was born in 1976 and I've lived three wars in Lebanon that my country didn't cause ...I've always voted conservative but what is happening is telling me not to ever vote again...There is desperate need for food, water, blankets, blood, medicine...where is what is called the UN? I really respect everyone's eyes; therefore I will NOT post any pictures...but what i see is very graphic...what I see is worst than Iraq...If we don't stop this we will all feel its effects one day...
Sorry for my emotional post...I just have a family back home that might pay a huge price for hezbollah reckless actions

Very true, and well said, but i don't get why hezbollah is in for the blame ? Hezbollah certainly wouldnt gain any popularity in lebanon if israel wouldnt be so agressive.
 

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Logic 7 said:
Canadian with a hyphen said:
Now plz guys...This is way too much, Israel have crossed all red lines..have used weapons banned internationally....someone needs to stop the violence...half a million lebanese are on the streets with nowhere to go...nothing to eat...no shelter..someone needs to explain this to me ..I wrote a letter to the PM...the war machine needs to stop...why did Israel Bomb the hell out of downtown Beirut yesterday (ashrafiyeh) where we have all the foreigners ...where we have the Gucci and Prada stores not hizbollah's tanks? why is no one able to pressure its machine to stop the killing of the Lebanese army whom four days ago was on its side at heart?
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?ed...ticle_id=74075..
why are they targeting the convoys of milk and medicine?
where is the sense of proportion in the world community? does the world have any decency left? why is the world failing big time this time? why day after another the US is showing its ultimate stupidity in the ME? Lebanon didn't make Iran stronger...didn't create the evil of Iran ...why doesn't someone tell AhmadiNejad to shut up ...statements like" hezbollah will not be disarmed"does not help this catastrophe....Lebanon never threatened to wipe Israel off the map...but Israel is wiping Lebanon off the map....
It is not a matter of being left or right wing ...it is a matter of solidarity with humanity...It's a matter of imbalance in this freaky world ...I was born in 1976 and I've lived three wars in Lebanon that my country didn't cause ...I've always voted conservative but what is happening is telling me not to ever vote again...There is desperate need for food, water, blankets, blood, medicine...where is what is called the UN? I really respect everyone's eyes; therefore I will NOT post any pictures...but what i see is very graphic...what I see is worst than Iraq...If we don't stop this we will all feel its effects one day...
Sorry for my emotional post...I just have a family back home that might pay a huge price for hezbollah reckless actions

Very true, and well said, but i don't get why hezbollah is in for the blame ? Hezbollah certainly wouldnt gain any popularity in lebanon if israel wouldnt be so agressive.

When one seeks to protect one's own people you deem this to be aggression? Are you serious? You are like that article I had read where an armed intruder had broken into a man's house one evening. The man woke up, grabbed his gun and ran downstairs where he shot the intruder dead. The story stated he had 3 very young children. What was the result of his actions? Even though the intruder was clearly armed the man was sentenced to jail for manslaughter. His crime? Defending his family! Your take on Hezbollah would be exactly the same. The intruder is killed even though he was trespassing and armed. Rather than show sympathy for the man whose life and those lives of his children may have ended had he not been armed. Yes. Let us feel sympathy for those who would endanger the lives of the innocents.
 

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Hezbollah certainly wouldnt gain any popularity in lebanon if israel wouldnt be so agressive.


Interesting comment.

I watched BBC news this evening, watched Charlie Rose, and Tavis Smiley. All three had interviews in which people agreed with this comment. While Americans have been persuaded that Israel is an innocent victim, the world is convinced of the exact opposite. The consensus is that Israel has kidnapped innocent Palestinians and conducted Abu Ghraib torture for years and that this has gone unpunished. Moreover, it agrees that Israel's reaction is one in which it has overstepped all bounds of decency.

Americans allowed themselves to be persuaded by Bush's rampant lies about WMD and a great many now regret their naivity. Let's hope many more Americans will awaken to the truth about Zionist aggression and terrorism as have so many other internationals already. Only when the truth is acknowledged without prejudice can the peace process begin.
 

SaintLucifer

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Canadian with a hyphen said:
Now plz guys...This is way too much, Israel have crossed all red lines..have used weapons banned internationally....someone needs to stop the violence...half a million lebanese are on the streets with nowhere to go...nothing to eat...no shelter..someone needs to explain this to me ..I wrote a letter to the PM...the war machine needs to stop...why did Israel Bomb the hell out of downtown Beirut yesterday (ashrafiyeh) where we have all the foreigners ...where we have the Gucci and Prada stores not hizbollah's tanks? why is no one able to pressure its machine to stop the killing of the Lebanese army whom four days ago was on its side at heart?
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?ed...ticle_id=74075..
why are they targeting the convoys of milk and medicine?
where is the sense of proportion in the world community? does the world have any decency left? why is the world failing big time this time? why day after another the US is showing its ultimate stupidity in the ME? Lebanon didn't make Iran stronger...didn't create the evil of Iran ...why doesn't someone tell AhmadiNejad to shut up ...statements like" hezbollah will not be disarmed"does not help this catastrophe....Lebanon never threatened to wipe Israel off the map...but Israel is wiping Lebanon off the map....
It is not a matter of being left or right wing ...it is a matter of solidarity with humanity...It's a matter of imbalance in this freaky world ...I was born in 1976 and I've lived three wars in Lebanon that my country didn't cause ...I've always voted conservative but what is happening is telling me not to ever vote again...There is desperate need for food, water, blankets, blood, medicine...where is what is called the UN? I really respect everyone's eyes; therefore I will NOT post any pictures...but what i see is very graphic...what I see is worst than Iraq...If we don't stop this we will all feel its effects one day...
Sorry for my emotional post...I just have a family back home that might pay a huge price for hezbollah reckless actions

Yes. Beirut. True you have civilians there but you also have Hezbollah fighters bunkered down there. The picture I found in this thread below is very apt. Those civilians that are being accidentally bombed as part of 'collateral damage'? They are the civilians which Hezbollah is hiding behind for their own protection. You should be jumping on Hezbollah for endangering the lives of civilians. They are the ones firing at Israelis then hiding behind the civilians when the Israelis dare to fire back.


What convoys of milk and medicine? You mean those trucks carrying more missiles to the Hezbollah murders? Can you prove those trucks were carrying milk and medicine? Hezbollah probably saw one of their missile trucks blown to pieces and decided to claim it was a milk/medicine truck. This is war on another front dear little girl. It is called the Propaganda War. I am more inclined to believe the Israelis.

What does the US have to do with this that would make you call them stupid? They have absolutely nothing to do with the events as they unfold. It is clearly between Israel and her enemies - the cowardly terrorists that the Lebanese so love.

Why should the UN get into this? I do not give a rat's piss for the UN anyway. They are run by lefties anyway. They would actually seek to protect Hezbollah and I do not appreciate this. I say give Israel carte-blanche to destroy both Hamas and Hezbollah. It is just too bad they locate in Gaza and Lebanon amongst civilians but then again this is why they are called terrorists. Lebanon brought her own destruction upon herself. I know you read my post where Israel had been demanding Lebanon disband Hezbollah. Lebanon responded by pretty much telling Israel to fuck off and that Hezbollah were heroes for 'tossing out' Israel from Lebanon, an event which never happened. Lebanon supports Hezbollah therefore responsibility for Lebanon's destruction clearly lies with Lebanon. Accept it and live with it. Lebanon refused to disarm Hezbollah and even gave them the green light to launch rockets at Israel. Lebanon forfeited her very existence by allowing this to happen from within her own borders. If Lebanon must die to ensure the survival of Israel then so be it. Let it die.
 

SaintLucifer

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Hezbollah certainly wouldnt gain any popularity in lebanon if israel wouldnt be so agressive.


Interesting comment.

I watched BBC news this evening, watched Charlie Rose, and Tavis Smiley. All three had interviews in which people agreed with this comment. While Americans have been persuaded that Israel is an innocent victim, the world is convinced of the exact opposite. The consensus is that Israel has kidnapped innocent Palestinians and conducted Abu Ghraib torture for years and that this has gone unpunished. Moreover, it agrees that Israel's reaction is one in which it has overstepped all bounds of decency.

Americans allowed themselves to be persuaded by Bush's rampant lies about WMD and a great many now regret their naivity. Let's hope many more Americans will awaken to the truth about Zionist aggression and terrorism as have so many other internationals already. Only when the truth is acknowledged without prejudice can the peace process begin.

Zionist aggression? Hmm. Who was lobbing rockets into the other country? Thank you but you have been dismissed. Fare thee well.
 

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Zionist aggression? Hmm. Who was lobbing rockets into the other country?



See my earlier posts from Juan Cole and from Pat Buchanan. Both know the subject a lot better than you do. Do your homework or be dismissed from class!
 

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I just watched Dan Gillerman, Israeli ambassador to the UN, take questions from reporters.

The incursion into Lebanon will last "as long as it takes" to destroy Hezbollah as a military force in the area.

He said Israel would be very pleased if the Lebanese Army could exert government sovereignty in the south. He did not say so directly, but it was obvious that the Israeli military is doing the heavy lifting for the central Lebanese gov't, and that the Israelis intend to make the Lebanese central government'd re-entry into the south of their country a very easy thing.

Gillerman directly accused Iran and Syria of responsibility for the attacks that sparked the crisis, and said war in the ME would be unending and inevitable (not his words, mine, but it is the gist) until Iran and Syria cease supporting terror and attacking Israel by proxy.

Meanwhile, the Lebanese gov't reports 228 civilian deaths in 9 days of fighting.

I confess to having been silenced on the subject for a bit by Canadian With a Hypen's link to pictures of dead children.............heart-rending and very, very disturbing.

The only end to it will be peace.

Peace will only be acheived when Israel's enemies stop attacking her.

Israel made peace with Egypt 25 years ago. How many times has Israel attacked Egypt since?

Israel withdrew from Lebanon 6 years ago, and has STAYED out.

Israel made peace with Jordan decades ago......and has not attacked that nation.

If Israel's enemies were disarmed, peace would reign.

If Israel were disarmed, there would not be a Jew left alive in the ME 6 months later.

We need to support Israel.

Edited to say.....

I need to clarify that.......

Israel is far from perfect, and like every other nation on earth (including Canada), Israel has giant skeletons in her closet.

Israel has mistreated Palestinians, and has pulled some nasty tricks.

But Israel , if she ever was, CEASED being the agressor in this area (I mean the entire ME) many, many years ago. Israel treats her minority Arab population with respect. Israel would gladly abandon 97% of the West Bank and Gaza for peace, and offered to do so, only to be attacked once again.

Israel is extremely ruthless in her own defense, but it is in her DEFENSE, unlike her enemies.
 

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The Only Exit Strategy

By Charles Krauthammer

WASHINGTON -- There is crisis and there is opportunity. Amid the general wringing of hands over the seemingly endless and escalating Israel-Hezbollah fighting, everyone asks: Where will it end?

The answer, blindingly clear, begins with understanding that this crisis represents a rare, perhaps irreproducible, opportunity.

Every important party in the region and in the world, except the radical Islamists in Tehran and their clients in Damascus, wants Hezbollah disarmed and removed from south Lebanon so that it is no longer able to destabilize the peace of both Lebanon and the broader Middle East.

Which parties? Start with the great powers. In September 2004, they passed U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559, demanding that Hezbollah disarm and allow the Lebanese army to take back control of south Lebanon.

The resolution enjoyed the sponsorship of the United States and, yes, France. As the former mandatory power in Lebanon, France was important in helping the Lebanese expel Syria during last year's Cedar Revolution, but it understands that Lebanon's independence and security are forfeit so long as Hezbollah -- a lawless, terrorist, private militia answering to Syria and Iran -- occupies south Lebanon as a rogue mini-state.

Then there are the Arabs, beginning with the Lebanese who want Hezbollah out. The majority of Lebanese -- Christian, Druze, Sunni Muslim and secular -- bitterly resent their country being hijacked by Hezbollah and turned into a war zone. And in the name of what Lebanese interest? Israel evacuated every square inch of Lebanon six years ago.

The other Arabs have spoken, too. In a stunning development, the 22-member Arab League criticized Hezbollah for provoking the current crisis. It is unprecedented for the Arab League to criticize any Arab party while it is actively engaged in hostilities with Israel. But the Arab states know that Hezbollah, a Shiite militia in the service of Persian Iran, is a threat not just to Lebanon but to them as well. Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan have openly criticized Hezbollah for starting a war on what is essentially Iran's timetable (to distract attention from Iran's pending referral to the Security Council for sanctions over its nuclear program). They are far more worried about Iran and its proxies than about Israel. They are therefore eager to see Hezbollah disarmed and defanged.

Fine. Everyone agrees it must be done. But who to do it? No one. The Lebanese are too weak. The Europeans don't invade anyone. After its bitter experience of 20 years ago, the U.S. has a Lebanon allergy. And Israel could not act out of the blue because it would immediately have been branded the aggressor and forced to retreat.

Hence the golden, unprecedented opportunity. Hezbollah makes a fatal mistake. It crosses the U.N.-delineated international frontier to attack Israel, kill soldiers and take hostages. This cross-border aggression is so naked that even Russia joins in the G-8 summit communique blaming Hezbollah for the violence and calling for the restoration of Lebanese sovereignty in the south.

But only one country has the capacity to do the job. That is Israel, now recognized by the world as forced into this fight by Hezbollah's aggression.

The road to a solution is therefore clear: Israel liberates south Lebanon and gives it back to the Lebanese.

It starts by preparing the ground with air power, just as the Gulf War began with a 40-day air campaign. But if all that happens is the air campaign, the result will be failure. Hezbollah will remain in place, Israel will remain under the gun, Lebanon will remain divided and unfree. And this war will start again at a time of Hezbollah and Iran's choosing.

Just as in Kuwait 1991, what must follow the air campaign is a land invasion to clear the ground and expel the occupier. Israel must retake south Lebanon and expel Hezbollah. It would then declare the obvious: that it has no claim to Lebanese territory and is prepared to withdraw and hand south Lebanon over to the Lebanese army (augmented perhaps by an international force), thus finally bringing about what the world has demanded -- implementation of Resolution 1559 and restoration of south Lebanon to Lebanese sovereignty.

Only two questions remain: Israel's will and America's wisdom. Does Prime Minister Ehud Olmert have the courage to do what is so obviously necessary? And will Secretary of State Rice's upcoming peace trip to the Middle East force a premature cease-fire that spares her the humiliation of coming home empty-handed but prevents precisely the kind of decisive military outcome that would secure the interests of Israel, Lebanon, the moderate Arabs and the West?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/07/a_rare_irreproducible_opportun.html

..and if Kofi gets involved you can bet the mess will be the same old same old 5 years down the road. The UN has never been a force for good. Not that I can think of. Darfur? Rwanda? :roll:
 

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I don't disagree that the UN is a failure in securing World Peace,or that any of it's efforts in stopping the Middle East crisis would fail..I do believe that as a humanitarian agency,it gets high marks in education,medicine & getting food supplies to the third world.
 

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So far Hezbollah has a much lower ratio of civilian to military deaths than Israel's military.

If the defition of terrorism is "the taking of innocent civilians lives for political/military purposes", then Israel, which escalated this conflict from one involving just military targets to include civilians is the real terrorist organization here.

After Israel started bombing civilian targets like Beruit's airport, residential, commercial and industrial areas in response to Hezbollah's commando raid, Hezbollah either had to concede defeat or meet Israel's "measured" response with its own "measured" response.

This is asymetrical warfare. Each side has its own strengths and weaknesses. Hezbollah has decided to stand and fight Israel. The missiles Hezbollah drops on Israel aren't very effective if their intent is to kill innocent civilians.

But that isn't the purpose of Hexbollah's missiles. Their purpose is to be "bait". Hezbollah's missiles force Israel to send ground forces into Lebanon sooner rather than later to take these missiles out. That means Israel's military will take more casualties than if they just cowardly bomb innocent civilians from the relatively safety of an aircraft cockpit.

The carnage, death and destruction Israel has rained down on Lebanon's innocent civilians in response to Hezbollah's military commando raid on the Israeli military was not a measured act of self defense. Its a war crime.

A measured response would have been to target just Hezbollah, or an Israeli commando raid into Lebanon to take Hezbollah leaders hostage.

Hezbollah's request for a prisoner exchange was reasonable considering that Israel continues to hold Lebanese hostages in violation of their past agreement to release them.

The deal Israel violated was to release all its Lebanese hostages/POWs from its 18 year occupation of Lebanon in exchange for an Israeli spy, all Israeli POWs and bodies of dead Israeli soldiers held by Hezbollah.

Hezbollah held up its end of the bargain, but Israel didn't. Israel released most but not all its hostages, effectively renegging in their agreement. Israel kept these Lebanese hostages in violation of that agreement so they could use them in the future as bargaining chips.

Israel's duplicity in that exchange justified Hezbollah's recent commando raid to take Israeli POWs.

Israel's indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets, justified Hezbollah's bombing civilian targets in response.

The root cause of this conflict was a UN decision to transfer Europe's post WW II Jewish refugee problem to Palestine. Since then, Israel embarked on ethnic cleansing and military expansion campaigns designed to turn multicultural Palestine into a racially pure Jewish state.

Israel has no interest in peace. It needs wars so it can continue deporting/killing non-Jewish Palestinians and annex all of Gaza and the West Bank. Thanks to $5B in annual US military and economic support as well as American veto powers in the UNSC, Israel has complete freedom to commit as many war crimes, crimes against humanity... as required to achieve its goal of a racial pure Jewish state.

Thanks to a pro-Israel media, most of us are brianwashed into supporting Israel's war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Want peace? Then our leaders must demand that Israel and the United States seek a fair and just settlement for the millions of people who rot in refugee camps throughout the middle east as a result of the UN decision to create a Jewish colony in Palestine. when these 4 million + people have been relocated and adequately compensated for their suffering then maybe peace can be achieved in the middle east.
 

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missile said:
I don't disagree that the UN is a failure in securing World Peace,or that any of it's efforts in stopping the Middle East crisis would fail..I do believe that as a humanitarian agency,it gets high marks in education,medicine & getting food supplies to the third world.

Very true
 

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Israel has no interest in peace. It needs wars so it can continue deporting/killing non-Jewish Palestinians and annex all of Gaza and the West Bank. Thanks to $5B in annual US military and economic support as well as American veto powers in the UNSC, Israel has complete freedom to commit as many war crimes, crimes against humanity... as required to achieve its goal of a racial pure Jewish state.

This is the only paragraph of the above post I read....

I think I'm glad.....

First of all, ALL Israel wants is peace. Secondly, they LEFT Lebanon, they LEFT Gaza, they were planning to leave the West Bank, and their reward from the Palestinians and Hezbollah was........constant, unending barrages of rockets. Who doesn't want peace? Thirdly, the Arab minority in Israel is well treated, they vote, hold seats in the Knesset, the Bedouin actually fight for the Israelis, and very well. How about jews in Arab countries? Oh yeah, there aren't any. There USED to be.....where did they go? Fourthly, if Israel desired, they could EASILY push allthe Palestinians out of the West Bank and Gaza, into Jordan and Egypt. The haven't. Fifth, Jordan and Egypt have REFUSED to negotiate the return of those territories......

WOW, and all that BS Earth-as-One put in just ONE paragraph.......
 

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What a load of BS Colpy. You are grossly misinformed. You must get you news from the idiot box. Obviously you nkow little of Palestine's last 60 years of history.

I suggest you visit this site:

If Americans Knew

The post WW II Jewish refugee problem was imposed on Palestinians by the UN. These people never asked to be forced off their land by war. The result has been 60 years of war.

Take a look at Israel's original UN approved boundaries:

Palestine/Israel Maps: BBC

Israel grew by conquering its neighbors and cleansing its newly conquered lands of non-Jews. Hardly a peaceful existance.

Israel never left Lebanon voluntarily. Hezbollah made Lebanon too costly for Israel to stay. Hamas did the same thing in Gaza.

How would you feel if a hostile group of foreigners drove you off your land and stole everything you owned?

Imagine suffering dehydration and lacking basic necessities of life while on the other side of a wall, a foreigner who has moved into your former home, sips a cool refreshing drink while relaxing by a pool.

Israel's military has been geting away with murder for years:

Not guilty. The Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into a Palestinian schoolgirl

What's going on in Lebanon right now is the same as what that Israeli soldier did thaat Palestinian schoolgirl, just on a bigger scale. It really doesn't matter to Israelis that must of their victims are innocent.

The Arab minority in Israel are second class citizens. They have to put special license plates on their cars to identify them. Israel has laws which allow the government to seize their homes and property. Unlike Jews, Arab's and Muslims cannot re-unite with their relatives unless they leave Israel. Israel is a state dedicated toward making itself racially pure. Some Arab settlements in what is today Israel and pre-date Israel existance are still without basic services like water and electricity after 60 years. The Israeli government treats these non-Jewish settlements as if they don't exist.

All Arab nations have Jewish citizens. No they aren't always treated particularly well, but that is a result of anger against Jews because of Israel's activities. Before Jews began immigrating to Palestine, Palestinian Jews, Arabs and Muslims co-existed relatively peacefully. Lets put it this way, Jews were far better off historically in the middle east than they were in Europe. Europeans were responsible for the holocaust, not Arabs and Muslims.

Israel can't eject Palestinians out of Gaza and the West Bank without causing a war with their neighbors. Instead Israel has resorted to stealing their land and relocating them to walled off concentration camps under military guard.

This is Israel's future for non-Jews:

 

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Israel has not done everything fairly, but they have survived.

Israel EXISTS, it is not going away, nor should it. It is a democratic nation, a western-style nation, that treats its minorities well, and lives by rule of law. It is our ally.

I'm going to put the question to you, rhetorical as it is........

Would you rather be an Arab living in Israel, or a Jew living in one of the Arab states?

The answer should tell you who is OVERWHELMINGLY correct in these conflicts.......

I really have found it difficult to get a lefty to answer.....

BTW, I've spent 35 years interested in international politics, and during that time got degrees with emphasis on history and political science.

I'll not have you talking down to me......I've FORGOTTEN more about these subjects than you will ever know.......
 

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Colpy, nor should you be talking down to others; with respect, I would urge all members of Canadian Content to keep in mind that we are all equals here. In terms of the relationship between the Lebanese Republic and the State of Israel, I would suggest that the Lebanese Government (as in the governing party) cannot be entirely blamed for the situation.

The governing party has to make due with that parties are presently represented in their one hundred twenty-eight seat legislature (of which, unless I am mistaken, twenty-four seats were taken by Hezbollah, and twenty-four were taken by a coalition that involved Hezbollah). To blame the governing party for the events that are transpiring would be like blaming the Government of Canada for the ramblings of our own New Democratic Party of Canada.
 

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earth_as_one said:
What a load of BS Colpy. You are grossly misinformed. You must get you news from the idiot box. Obviously you nkow little of Palestine's last 60 years of history.

I suggest you visit this site:

Actually most of us know rather well and visiting Islamist biased sites won't increase our knowledge. Anyone who wants a refresher can visit wikipedia which is much more unbiased than any attack site you post. I also suggest watching Israel and the Arabs: 50 Years war. An excellent unbiased documentary about misdeeds on both sides during 50 years of the war.

If you want to stay mired in the past, then you can find reasons for all of us everywhere to remain in perpetual conflict. At some point you have to move on. You can't undo the past.

Looking at the Lebanon conflict. Israel is only doing what is rational. A degraded Hezbollah will be better for both Israel and Lebanon.

Anyone with any sort of reasoning skills should see that stopping the assault now is pointless as it will only start up again in short order. Resulting in a perpetual state of limbo for Lebanon. Lebanon has no part of this conflict, ridding them of Hezbollah will rid them of a lot of grief.

Anyone who actually cared about the future of Lebanon would want Israel to continue. Most people have fled the area. Israel took down a Hezbollah base today. Reporting many militant casualties. I saw no reports of Civilian casualties. This is the ideal situation. If you are against this, I can only assume it is not Lebanon you are concerned about, but Hezbollah which really has your support.
 

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Colpy said:
...I've FORGOTTEN more about these subjects than you will ever know.......

most of it deliberately :roll:
 
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