Ban the parties?

Stretch

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How it will benefit the constituents? We're not voting for the local city council here, are you not part of the constituents?.....wether u be a part of a 100 or 1,000,000! but for the federal government. I'd gone to a local debate recently, and half the questions were about where we should lay local traintracks: to this street or that street? and other things of the sort. For crying out loud, I was starting to wonder if we were voting for a new mayor! there in lies the problem...we're over governed.

No, I fundamentally disagree with you, Stretch. I vote for a candidate based on who I believe can best represent the best interests of mankind. Having been involved in state politics and local gov, we go in with the best of intentions, but there is a system that will phuk you should you try to change it....seen potentially great politicians enter with the best of intentions and watched them come out being a politician.... POLI = many.... TICS = blood sucking parasites
Otherwise, everthing degenerates again into what little cookie each candidate can suck out of the government for the local riding. In the end, everybody loses with that mindset.
once again...if its in the best interests of my constituents! if they benefit from it......who they gunna vote for next time???


give me a good Independent and I'll make him president ;-)
 

Machjo

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LOL me too mate

When I was at the local candidates' debate, i was tempted to ask a question directed... at the audience!:x

Seriously. Some of these people really shouldn't be voting!

A couple of the candidates are idiots, but guess what. They still outshine many of their voters, and the average in this town has a degree! So what can we expect?
 

Stretch

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When I was at the local candidates' debate, i was tempted to ask a question directed... at the audience!:x

Seriously. Some of these people really shouldn't be voting!

A couple of the candidates are idiots, but guess what. They still outshine many of their voters, and the average in this town has a degree! So what can we expect?
the average in this town has a degree........those with the degrees got them by being "trained' inside a certain box

those of us who dont have degrees dont know our "bounderies" ...lol we should be on ritalin perhaps........ :lol:
 

earth_as_one

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Consider how stupid the average person is and then realize 50% of the population is dumber than that!

Colpy is wrong. Political parties are a corruption of democracy, not a part of democracy. Some democracies do not have political parties. For example Nunavut and the North West Territories. In these territories political parties are banned. People vote for the best local candidate, who then represents them in the legislature. Its a democratic system called "Consensus Government".

This government was inspired by traditional aboriginal systems of governance. Members of the legislature are elected as independents from single member districts by simple plurality voting. As in other Westminster system parliaments the legislature selects the premier, the speaker and the cabinet from amongst themselves, and the government is dependent on retaining the confidence of the legislature. However due to the absence of political parties there is no formal opposition and instead of party caucuses members regularly participate in a caucus of all members of the legislature.

While consensus models of discourse often require that a true consensus be reached, in consensus government policies advanced by the government are decided upon by majority vote; the government must therefore support policies that please a majority of the entire legislature if it wants them to pass. Notions of party discipline are not relevant to such deliberations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_government

The most democratic system would not even involve politicians. Everything would be decided by referendum.