B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy

taxslave

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An adult man can't marry a 14 year old in Canada right now, you need a system like Bountiful to do it and that has been made illegal. It can no longer be gussied up as freedom of religon to marry 14 year olds. This was a good decision.

Yes he can with the parents consent. That is the catch to places like Bountiful, the men are all in it together. Women have no say in much of anything. They simply breed daughters for each other.
 

gerryh

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Yes he can with the parents consent. That is the catch to places like Bountiful, the men are all in it together. Women have no say in much of anything. They simply breed daughters for each other.


Exactly, polygamy has nothing to do with it. Polygamy is used as an excuse for their sick behavior with children.
 

petros

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Bountiful is split into two clans. Which is the more offensive? The one with the tall fences or the one whose women are free to come and go?
 

VanIsle

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I'm pretty sure no one is asking you to do these things.

Isn't the whole point of polygamy that it ISN'T sleeping around?
LOL - why because the person marries everyone they want to to "make it legal" they are now no longer cheating on anyone, just sharing. How nice and cozy that is for that cheater in disguise.

Is it still 12 as long as the parents agree?
The provinces set additional rules governing who can get married.
  • In Alberta, anyone 18 or over can get married. A person between the ages of 16 and 18 can get married with the consent of both their parents. Anyone under 16 cannot get married; this does not apply to a female if a physician's certificate shows she is pregnant or the mother of a living child. There is no requirement for residency.[4]
  • In British Columbia, anyone 19 or over can get married. A person between the ages of 16 and 18 can get married with the consent of both their parents. Under the age of 16, a person needs the consent of the Supreme or County Court. There is no requirement for residency.[5]
  • In Ontario, Both parties MUST be 18 years of age or over to obtain a Licence. A person who is 16 or 17 can get married with the consent of both his parents.[6] In order to get married, they will need either a marriage licence or for the banns to be published. There is no requirement for residency.
  • In Québec, the legal age for marriage is 16, but people under 18 may marry with consent from their parents or their tutor.[7] Marriage is governed by the Civil Code of Québec.
  • In New Brunswick, anyone 18 or over can get married. A never-married person aged 16 or 17 may marry with parental consent.[8]
 

karrie

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the legal system has to figure out how to address the child abuse in these groups 'now', and also address
the polygamy now.
As I said before we would open up our country to many groups around the world who would come here just
to live under the polygamy 'legal system, don't know about you, but I sure don't want to see that.
We aren't a third world system, and don't want to move in that direction.

Stay far away from legalizing this life choice, it is not for the civilized and caring, it is for the
crude and not caring.

Polygamists move here now as it is. You'd prefer their wives have no legal protection or rights? That makes no sense. And contrary to what many people think, few immigrants moving here are 'third world'.... you're thinking refugees.

LOL - why because the person marries everyone they want to to "make it legal" they are now no longer cheating on anyone, just sharing. How nice and cozy that is for that cheater in disguise.


Polyamory is only cheating if you're being dishonest about it. Why wouldn't someone who falls in love with more than one person want to share their lives with all of them if they can?
 

VanIsle

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Polygamists move here now as it is. You'd prefer their wives have no legal protection or rights? That makes no sense. And contrary to what many people think, few immigrants moving here are 'third world'.... you're thinking refugees.




Polyamory is only cheating if you're being dishonest about it. Why wouldn't someone who falls in love with more than one person want to share their lives with all of them if they can?
It's your opinion that polygamy is only cheating if you're being dishonest. I just have a different opinion. Thanks for the red though.
 

karrie

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It's your opinion that polygamy is only cheating if you're being dishonest. I just have a different opinion. Thanks for the red though.

It deserved it, so you're welcome.

And yes, it's my opinion that cheating is something done behind your partner's back. I don't quite get why anyone would view it any other way. If your partner consents to relations outside of yours, it's honest and in the open. Cheating may be what someone else calls it because they can't wrap their own minds around you being okay with it, but that doesn't MAKE it cheating.

De Beers would like to see it legalized.

I doubt it. DeBeers stands to profit hugely from the idea that love is available only to one soul mate, and that you ought to spend every possible cent making your life with that person something out of a Disney movie. I doubt a polygamist would be spending 3 months wages per partner. lol.
 

Kreskin

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How the hell does a guy win an argument in a polygamist marriage. Do you bi-pass the doghouse and head straight for the outhouse?
 

karrie

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How the hell does a guy win an argument in a polygamist marriage. Do you bi-pass the doghouse and head straight for the outhouse?

lol... you sexist!!! Women don't all have the same opinions, take the same sides, in a family argument. lol.
 

gerryh

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How the hell does a guy win an argument in a polygamist marriage. Do you bi-pass the doghouse and head straight for the outhouse?


Pretty much. In the relationship that I have personal knowledge of, the ladies band together, certain "privileges" are with held and he loses....lol
 

Bar Sinister

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But none of the items you have mentioned are necessarily part of polygamy. Furthermore, you have only mentioned polygamy as meaning one husband and multiple wives.

So you are basing the application of law on one version of polygamy, as distorted by some people. And when the court does this, it leaves the ruling wide open for appeal, as all of the grounds they mention don't necessarily apply to polygamy in general.

First of all do you know of any societies where polygamy is not male dominated? I don't. I'm using the historical evidence of actual polygamous societies; not some fantasy world where women have multiple husbands.

I like your logic. Only the power of religion could convince people to agree to a system based on the power of religion.

Of course you like my logic. Do you know of any polygamous societies where the underpinning of the society are not religious?

Show us how fully grown adults in a multiple marriage with fully grown adults will by necessity involve child brides and arraned marriages. After all, you claim those things are, by necessity, part of polygamy.

That is not a claim. It is historically the way all polygamous societies have evolved. Tell you what; you show me a polygamous society where that has not happened. I'm betting that you can't.
 

TenPenny

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First of all do you know of any societies where polygamy is not male dominated? I don't. I'm using the historical evidence of actual polygamous societies; not some fantasy world where women have multiple husbands.

I'm using the definition of the words. You might try it some time.

That is not a claim. It is historically the way all polygamous societies have evolved. Tell you what; you show me a polygamous society where that has not happened. I'm betting that you can't.

Ah, but it is a claim. Show me how, by necessity, polygamy means what you say. Show me how any other concept of polygamy is impossible and has never happened in the history of the world.
 

Bar Sinister

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Well, they all tend to happen to some extent in non-polygamous societies as well so I'm still not sure what your point is. Since "Arranged marriages with the young women involved usually having little choice as to whom they marry" occurs in monogamous cultures, one could argue that that is a reason to ban monogamy.

Arranged marriages may occur in some monogamous cultures, but that hardly negates my point that arranged marriages are almost always a characteristic of polygamous societies. And no - you are clutching at straws by stating that arranged marrianges would be an excuse to ban monogamy; not when all that needs to be done is to ban arranged marriages.
 

Cannuck

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Arranged marriages may occur in some monogamous cultures, but that hardly negates my point that arranged marriages are almost always a characteristic of polygamous societies. And no - you are clutching at straws by stating that arranged marrianges would be an excuse to ban monogamy; not when all that needs to be done is to ban arranged marriages.

...and if arranged marriages were banned, it wouldn't be an issue with polygamous marriages. Thank for arguing against your own points. It saves me time.
 

TenPenny

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Arranged marriages may occur in some monogamous cultures, but that hardly negates my point that arranged marriages are almost always a characteristic of polygamous societies. And no - you are clutching at straws by stating that arranged marrianges would be an excuse to ban monogamy; not when all that needs to be done is to ban arranged marriages.

I think the one clutching at straws is you, especially when you deflate your own arguments with your last sentence.
'not when all that needs to be done is to ban arranged marriages'

In other words, if there is an issue, deal with the issue. You've got the right idea there.
 

Bar Sinister

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I know of a few polyamorous relationships (MMF and MFF) and personally know one polygamous marriage. They are non religious and it is man with 2 wives.

I agree with those that have said that the decision is all about Bountiful with polygamy used as an excuse. This is not fair to true polygamist that don't use polygamy as a way around child marriage laws etc. The ignorance shown on this board and by the courts is astounding. The bigotry, however, is expected.

You are simply wrong on this one. A voluntary polygamous union is vastly different from what existed at Bountiful where the young women were forced into marriage and were not allowed to dissolve the union. Let's face it, if two of more women choose to live with one man (similar to Hugh Hefner's arrangement with his pseudo wives) then that is their business. No one forced any of Hefner's young paramours to live with him and they were free to leave at any time. They were also all legally adults and chose to be part of that relationship. Similarly if a woman manages to arrange the same sort of relationship then that is her business and that of her partners provided the choice is freely made by all. This does not even remotely resemble the Bountiful situation where young women were kept uneducated and totally dependent on the dominant males of the society, and in which they were forced into arranged marriages.