B.C. pipeline protests continue to halt Ontario trains for 5th day in a row

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It's the 10th...
4 days from now they wont be out protesting. Their welfare is running low and protests will fire up again on child tax credit day.


Maybe it is time to call these communist type thugs for what they really are? A bunch of terrorists thugs. They are terrorizing the public with their many threats that this is going to continue on until they get their way. They are tring to bring this country to a halt. Imagine if this were some conservative group doing the same thing which these so called environ"mental"ists terrorists are doing? They would be arrested right away even before an injunction was put in place. The leftists in this country appear to get away with a lot more than what they should be allowed to get away with. The country needs those trains and trucks up and running. We all depend on them. This is anarchy plain and simple.
 

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Tides Foundation, Gordon & Betty Moore Foundation, the William & Flora Hewlett Foundation, the David & Lucile Packard Foundation, the Pew Charitable Trusts, the Rockefeller Brothers, Oak Foundation, Stand.earth, Georgia Strait Alliance, Living Oceans Society, Ecojustice, the Raincoast Conservation Foundation, etc...etc....etc....


To an outside investor, especially an American, it may seem odd to learn that, in Canada, when opponents make their case against a pipeline or any other resource project before regulators, the Canadian government sometimes pays them to do it.

It may seem especially masochistic that some environmental groups that are already well funded received money from taxpayers to try to thwart a project owned by Canadian taxpayers.

Anti-pipeline funds flow from unexpected sources


"As researcher Vivian Krause has detailed over the years, environmental groups in Canada have received millions from U.S. philanthropic groups like the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation and Tides Foundation."

A good deal of that funding was part of the Tar Sands campaign launched in 2008. According to Krause, of $40 million doled out to environmental groups by the Tides Foundation and Tides Canada since 2009, $25 million was for anti-pipeline activities.

The Tar Sands campaign's stated aim was to limit the growth of Alberta's oilsands by halting pipeline and refinery projects, and raising the cost of oilsands production to make it uneconomic."

""Here's the reality: anti-energy activists have long been funded not only by foreign money, but also by Canadian governments and companies in Canada's energy sector," Milke wrote in an opinion piece in October 2018."

"That is one of the problems in Canada - a lack of transparency on funding sources for non-governmental organizations, regardless of their political stripe. Unlike their counterparts in the U.S., Canadian non-profits are not required to disclose funding sources or spending details."
 

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Maybe it is time to call these communist type thugs for what they really are? A bunch of terrorists thugs. They are terrorizing the public with their many threats that this is going to continue on until they get their way. They are tring to bring this country to a halt. Imagine if this were some conservative group doing the same thing which these so called environ"mental"ists terrorists are doing? They would be arrested right away even before an injunction was put in place. The leftists in this country appear to get away with a lot more than what they should be allowed to get away with. The country needs those trains and trucks up and running. We all depend on them. This is anarchy plain and simple.

34,000 Canadians' lives are being totally disrupted due to the VIA rail shut-down. An untold number of other Canadians are having to find their way around blockades, road blocks and roving bands of protestors. This is totally out-of-hand.

There is a real level of anger simmering in our country over the inability of government to respond quickly and efficiently to the take-over of roads, bridges, rail lines, and yesterday, the BC legislative building. Who will take responsibility for this unholy mess and do something about it? Something has to be done soon as the problem keeps growing and our economy is taking a big hit.
 

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34,000 Canadians' lives are being totally disrupted due to the VIA rail shut-down. An untold number of other Canadians are having to find their way around blockades, road blocks and roving bands of protestors. This is totally out-of-hand.
There is a real level of anger simmering in our country over the inability of government to respond quickly and efficiently to the take-over of roads, bridges, rail lines, and yesterday, the BC legislative building. Who will take responsibility for this unholy mess and do something about it? Something has to be done soon as the problem keeps growing and our economy is taking a big hit.

These terrorists do not care about the many Canadians that rely on all the services provided by trains and trucks for all of us to make a living and be able to put food on our tables. In Canada, we have weak knee politicians who are afraid to stand up to these radical Marxists who have nothing to offer Canada but radical protests after protests.

Our politicians see all of this but yet they go along with it. When a gang of Marxist thugs can block the entrance into the BC legislative building, and be there for days, tells me that our dear leaders do not care much about what happens to we the people business. I have no problem with people demonstrating, but they should not be allowed to interfere with the flow and movement of vehicles or people. Whine and cry all they want too, but stop with the blockades. Allowing this to continue on is pretty much saying to more of these radical Marxist types, that look, we can cause havoc and chaos and get away with it for days or even weeks.

The pipeline in BC is a prime example of what these Marxist radicals are being allowed to get away with. There has already been an injunction put against them, but yet they continue to carry on because the RCMP will not enforce the law. They appear to only get slaps on the wrist rather than get real jail time. Caught doing it twice and be put away for a couple of months. That should slow down their radicalism. These Marxist environmentalists in Canada are becoming to radical and something needs to be done about them. They have become nothing more than chit disturbers. 8O
 

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Simple solution to that one , blockade every road into the Rez , letting no goods in , cutting of natural gas might also work . Tit for tat .

Indee-dee-doo. Stop them from entering onto non-Native Indian land. Give them a bit of a taste of their own blockage medicine for a few days. Maybe stop issuing taxpayer tax dollars to them for a couple of months until they stop causing problems. Canadians have been for several decades now plenty of free tax dollars and what do we get for it? Blockades and interference in our daily lives. Canadians need jobs and all of those blockaders need that impressed on them. We all benefit when we are all working. Another new pipeline will do no damage to their environment or their Native Indian land one bit. Why does a small minority of troublemakers always seem to get their way, and are able to get away with controlling the majority? Today, it seems that minorities seem to be ruling over the majority and are running this country all the time. Is there something wrong with this picture? I personally think so. Just saying.
 

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John Ivison: Canada is turning into a mob city while Trudeau remains silent

Canada is slowly turning from democracy to mobocracy, as the rule of law is tested from coast to coast.

From blocked intersections in downtown Toronto, to journalists and legislators being barred entry to the B.C. legislature; from an obstructed CN line affecting rail traffic out of the port of Prince Rupert, to the barricades impeding Via Rail’s service between Toronto and Montreal, Canada is slowly being choked into submission.

The protests are in solidarity with the opposition to the Coastal GasLink pipeline in northern B.C. by hereditary chiefs of the Wet’suwet’en Nation. But a considerable number of “outsiders” are using the dispute as an excuse for mischief.

It’s impossible to know how many anarchists are at work. The U.S. website, It’s Going Down, has been actively calling for its followers to “shut down the ability of capitalist civilization to function” and has been promoting a campaign to #shutdowncanada.

Eco-warriors like Rising Tide Toronto are calling on its activists to fight actors in that city that “benefit from mega-extraction and colonialism”.

The mob is winning. CN has temporarily closed down part of its network and warned of threats to the transportation of food, grain, de-icing fluid for airports and propane for Quebec and Atlantic Canada.

In the face of this declaration of disorder, our politicians have been supine. Justin Trudeau is overseas, campaigning for a UN Security Council seat but encouraged all parties to use dialogue to resolve the problem.

The beleaguered Transport Minister Marc Garneau noted that it is illegal to blockade a rail line under the Railway Safety Act but said it is up to the provinces, not the federal government, to sort it out.

It’s true that Ottawa cannot direct provincial police forces. No one wants a repeat of the Oka Crisis. All sides need to show restraint to avoid a bloodbath.

But somebody in Ottawa, other than Conservative leadership candidate Erin O’Toole, should be pointing out that along with the right to protest there are certain responsibilities to allow other people to go about their business.

The prime minister should be pointing out that the protestors’ case is built on judicial sand.

The RCMP on Wet’suwet’en territory are not “invading sovereign Indigenous territory” as protestors occupying the federal Justice building in Ottawa contend.

The Mounties are enforcing an injunction granted by the B.C. Supreme Court, which gives them the right to arrest people and remove camps designed to block pipeline construction. The 670 km pipeline has support from the five Wet’suwet’en bands and their elected chiefs and councils, who have signed financial benefit agreements worth $338 million for the 20 bands along the route, plus contract work for Indigenous businesses estimated at $620 million.

But the project is opposed by hereditary chiefs, who argue that they represent Wet’suwet’en’s traditional governance structure.

The common sense view may be that the democratically-elected band governments should prevail. But there is no place for common sense when it comes to Crown-Indigenous relations.

The hereditary chiefs argue that, since the pipeline’s proponents were not given permission to enter unceded territory, they are in violation of Wet’suwet’en law.

The judge presiding over the injunction said that Indigenous customary laws are not viewed as an “effectual” part of Canadian law until they are recognized in treaties or court declarations. The landmark Tsilhquot’in case in 2014 said that once aboriginal title is established, there is a requirement to get consent from First Nation before development can take place.

But the Wet’suwet’en have not established title, or ownership, over their traditional lands in Canadian court or through negotiation.

They would likely have a very strong case to take to the Supreme Court of Canada but, while there is a duty to consult, there is no veto. In time, the hereditary chiefs might stop the Coastal GasLink project but that will be up to the courts.

Such nuances are clearly lost on protestors such as the young activists blockading the Justice building, who insist that, since the land was unceded, it remains sovereign.

But that is not the law.

“Under Canadian law, whether land has established aboriginal title or not, Canadian courts don’t treat it as ‘sovereign’,” said Dwight Newman, the Canadian research chair in Indigenous Rights at the University of Saskatchewan.

This is messy stuff and there is validity in the claim in a blog post by Gavin Smith, a staff lawyer with the West Coast Environmental Law organization, that “the Wet’suwet’en are a classic example of how the Crown and Canadian legal system have overseen a long-term and continuing failure to give effect to the promised recognition of Aboriginal title and Indigenous law.”

But the law is all we have and without it, we will have anarchy, which seems to be precisely what many protestors want.

“From their point of view, I’m not sure that Canadian law matters,” said Newman. “One of the challenging things (the Wet’suwet’en case) is exposing is that there are a lot of protestors who take the view that something other than Canadian law should be determining a lot of issues within Canada.”

As B.C. Premier John Horgan noted of the confrontation at the provincial legislature, things have shifted from traditional protest to something quite different.

“These are extraordinary times, extraordinary events,” he said.

It is going to take deft political leadership to defeat the mob without civil conflict.

The early signs are not encouraging.

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Indee-dee-doo. Stop them from entering onto non-Native Indian land. Give them a bit of a taste of their own blockage medicine for a few days. Maybe stop issuing taxpayer tax dollars to them for a couple of months until they stop causing problems. Canadians have been for several decades now plenty of free tax dollars and what do we get for it? Blockades and interference in our daily lives. Canadians need jobs and all of those blockaders need that impressed on them. We all benefit when we are all working. Another new pipeline will do no damage to their environment or their Native Indian land one bit. Why does a small minority of troublemakers always seem to get their way, and are able to get away with controlling the majority? Today, it seems that minorities seem to be ruling over the majority and are running this country all the time. Is there something wrong with this picture? I personally think so. Just saying.
No 'seems that' about it, taxme. They are effectively being given carte blanche to continue and expand their illegal blockades while those who have the authority and the right to put an end to this mob rule simply twist in the wind.
 

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...And police are looking for the driver of the truck so they can arrest him. Meanwhile, citizens who are completely fed up and had enough of watching police do nothing about an illegal blockade take the initiative and move pallets and debris off the road, and they get arrested for it. WTF is going on in this country??
Funny shit eh? In Canada, disrupting an illegal protest is illegal.
 

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Funny shit eh? In Canada, disrupting an illegal protest is illegal.


Disrupting...Looked like they were just cleaning crap up off the highway. Should have put on an orange vest and called themselves the adopt-a -highway crew.

One thing for sure, I couldn't do what those cops do, no matter who my marching orders came from. I'd likely be helping out the guy chucking pallets. And no way could I bring myself to arrest a guy for doing precisely the right thing.
 
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Disrupting...Looked like they were just cleaning crap up off the highway. Should have put on an orange vest and called themselves the adopt-a -highway crew.

One thing for sure, I couldn't do what those cops do, no matter who my marching orders came from. I'd likely be helping out the guy chucking pallets. And no way could I bring myself to arrest a guy for doing precisely the right thing.
Would not be the least bit surprised to hear that a good number of RCMP tasked with the job, shared your opinion, Dec. I can just imagine the shit they are taking from the native scofflaws.
 

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34,000 Canadians' lives are being totally disrupted due to the VIA rail shut-down. An untold number of other Canadians are having to find their way around blockades, road blocks and roving bands of protestors. This is totally out-of-hand.

There is a real level of anger simmering in our country over the inability of government to respond quickly and efficiently to the take-over of roads, bridges, rail lines, and yesterday, the BC legislative building. Who will take responsibility for this unholy mess and do something about it? Something has to be done soon as the problem keeps growing and our economy is taking a big hit.


Something will get done about it...soon. When good people lose faith in the ability of the police to enforce the law, and in their leaders to take decisive and required action, then people start to lose respect for the rules. If Trudeau and RCMP commissioner Brenda Lucki don't get their shit together and soon, people will simply take it on themselves to get this straightened out the old fashioned way. Lets see what happens if this goes on for a month or two, maybe throw a government ruling to kill a major AB oilsands project into the mix for good measure. It's a powderkeg waiting to go off, Junior better start looking ahead at the potential outcome of his bad/indecisions, he'd better get it together and figure it out soon.
 
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Something will get done about it...soon. When good people lose faith in the ability of the police to enforce the law, and in their leaders to take decisive and required action, then people start to lose respect for the rules. If Trudeau and RCMP commissioner Brenda Lucki don't get their shit together and soon, people will simply take it on themselves to get this straightened out the old fashioned way. Lets see what happens if this goes on for a month or two, maybe throw a government ruling to kill a major AB oilsands project into the mix for good measure. It's a powderkeg waiting to go off, Junior better start looking ahead at the potential outcome of his bad/indecisions, he'd better get it together and figure it out soon.
Good luck with that. The idiots in Ottawa couldn't run an electric train set, let alone an entire nation.
 

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Something will get done about it...soon. When good people lose faith in the ability of the police to enforce the law, and in their leaders to take decisive and required action, then people start to lose respect for the rules. If Trudeau and RCMP commissioner Brenda Lucki don't get their shit together and soon, people will simply take it on themselves to get this straightened out the old fashioned way. Lets see what happens if this goes on for a month or two, maybe throw a government ruling to kill a major AB oilsands project into the mix for good measure. It's a powderkeg waiting to go off, Junior better start looking ahead at the potential outcome of his bad/indecisions, he'd better get it together and figure it out soon.
Trudeau has figured it out , after fifteen or so years of negotiations, environmental and cultural reviews , he says there should be dialogue.
 

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Something will get done about it...soon. When good people lose faith in the ability of the police to enforce the law, and in their leaders to take decisive and required action, then people start to lose respect for the rules. If Trudeau and RCMP commissioner Brenda Lucki don't get their shit together and soon, people will simply take it on themselves to get this straightened out the old fashioned way. Lets see what happens if this goes on for a month or two, maybe throw a government ruling to kill a major AB oilsands project into the mix for good measure. It's a powderkeg waiting to go off, Junior better start looking ahead at the potential outcome of his bad/indecisions, he'd better get it together and figure it out soon.


The only thing that feminist "junior" is good for is making things worse. The buffoon is the problem. Under both Trudeau's they have messed this country up so much that one can only wonder if it can ever be fixed again. We have no real tough politicians, just wimpy ones who always like to pass the buck or blame some other level of government.

As you said already? If this keeps up then there will be people who just may start to take the law into their own hands like one guy drove his truck thru some picket line in BC. I wonder if the police went after him when they should have applauded him instead when he was doing their job. When a gang of Mao red guard thugs and bullies start to interfere with other people's lives, then they must be challenged. Sad part is that when we the ordinary people try to fight back the police go against them.

There can be no doubt about it that Canada is under attack and that attack is to de-industrialize Canada, and send it back to the 1700's. Canada needs a Trump like politician to try and fix this screwed up liberal country before it truly does become an hell hole to live in. Just my opinion.
 

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No 'seems that' about it, taxme. They are effectively being given carte blanche to continue and expand their illegal blockades while those who have the authority and the right to put an end to this mob rule simply twist in the wind.

It's for dam sure that Emperor Trudeau will not take any action. He appears to be all in favor of this terrorism. A real leader would have told those Mao red guard thugs and bullies to get off those tracks now or we will run you over. And you know what? I think that the majority of Canadians would say, go for it. Enough of these terrorists getting away with what they are doing. Just saying.
 

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William Watson: If anti-pipeline blockades continue much longer, we need to ask: Who governs Canada?

In 1981, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, finishing her second year in office, proposed to rationalize the country’s coal industry and close unprofitable pits that were haemorrhaging money from the Exchequer. The coal miners’ union resisted and, with coal stocks insufficient to keep the country’s electrical plants operating for more than a few weeks, Thatcher backed down. She did not want a repeat of the brownouts and Three-Day Week that had defeated Edward Heath’s Conservative government in 1974.

Her government then began a quiet but steady buildup of coal stocks. By winter 1984 electrical plants had almost as much coal on hand as they were physically capable of storing. So the government tried its reforms again and the National Union of Miners responded by attempting a strike — attempting because there was no formal vote and sizeable contingents of miners stayed on at work, braving picket lines. In the year of pitched battles that followed, 1,390 police officers were injured and more than 10,000 people arrested. A taxi driver taking a non-striking miner to work was killed when a concrete post was thrown at his car from an overpass. But in March 1985 the union ended the strike with its goals largely unfulfilled and the question that had plagued the U.K. since the 1970s — “Who governs Britain?” — was finally answered. Its government did, not the unions.

If blockades at Vancouver’s port and eastern rail lines continue much longer, Canadians will be asking: “Who governs Canada?” It has been clear for years that if the courts finally decide in favour of pipelines and other resource developments, opponents will take their opposition to construction sites and transportation nodes, as they are now doing.

Our governments have had ample time to plan for the current confrontation — to build up coal stocks, as it were. Have they made good use of their time? It doesn’t look like it. The federal transport minister has carefully pointed out that enforcement of any injunctions obtained against demonstrators is up to the relevant provincial police forces. (And do we really need a court to decide people aren’t allowed to blockade the railroads, highways and ports?)

The premier of Quebec, a province seldom shy about claiming jurisdiction, allowed as how he wasn’t so sure: there are transport issues involved and, you know, transport is federal … but in any case he was talking to Grand Chief Joe Norton of the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake, just across the Mercier Bridge from downtown Montreal, to see if something can’t be done about letting a commuter train resume its regular schedule and move 1,200 ordinary folk from the south shore to the city every day.

As for the prime minster, doubtless he is being briefed by the minute but at the moment he is in Africa seeking votes for a temporary seat on the UN Security Council, a vanity project of surpassing importance in Rockcliffe and the Glebe but about which all other Canadians could not care less. If anything like the time and brain power that have gone into planning our UN campaign have also been devoted to an effective response to the putting up of barricades across the country, we should be fine. But am I the only Canadian who suspects they haven’t been?

Although fundamentally similar, Thatcher’s problem was different from ours in several important details. Canada is larger and more spread out. Power is divided between federal and provincial governments. Our critical infrastructure is vulnerable at hundreds, probably thousands of places. There is a racial dimension (if that word is permitted) to the current confrontation, even if many protesters are not actually First Nations people.

There is one crucial similarity, however. As Thatcher always insisted, the basic disagreement was between miners who understood their industry had to change and their union leadership, which resisted any change whose terms it couldn’t dictate.

Our current difficulties similarly divide the Indigenous community. As the Federal Court of Appeal noted in its Trans Mountain decision last month, 120 of 129 affected Indigenous communities have signed on. In the case of Gas Link, elected chiefs and councils are OK with the project, but some hereditary chiefs are not. I don’t know if native culture contains a direct analogue of game theory’s “the holdout problem,” but it would be surprising if it didn’t: the last few people not giving their consent to an initiative that requires all to sign on is a difficult problem of logic that likely transcends culture.

We face a trilemma of fundamental values. We believe in the rule of law. We are a peaceable people. And we want fairness for First Nations.

Though Canada has not always been fair to First Nations it is hard to read any recent court decision and not conclude that extreme care is now taken to answer and accommodate reasonable objections. That leaves rule of law vs. our peaceful nature. Unfortunately, peaceful natures count for little without the rule of law.

At some stage, sooner better than later, the law needs to be enforced — respectfully, and with restraint and a minimum of force — but firmly. As Thatcher would have done. As, for that matter, Pierre Trudeau almost certainly would have done.

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Diane Francis: Rail blockades could turn into a full-blown secession crisis — and Trudeau's government is to blame


The illegal road and rail blockades perpetrated by Indigenous radicals across the country are not about pipelines or fossil fuels. It’s an existential threat to Canada and its sovereignty — and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government is to blame.

Five years of pandering and subsidizing 632 First Nations leaders has led to this catastrophe, which is being spearheaded by five unelected hereditary chiefs in British Columbia who claim their nation — the Wet’suwet’en — is exempt from Canadian laws and regulations. They claim sovereignty over a 22,000-square-kilometre swath of land, an area the size of Israel, and have successfully invoked nationwide solidarity protests that have crippled portions of the country’s rail system.

Wet’suwet’en hereditary leaders and their accomplices have defied court orders and ignored agreements signed by 20 band councils, including their own. The issue at hand is the building of a 670-kilometre gas pipeline to a $40-billion LNG plant on the coast, but at stake is the future of Canada itself.

On Dec. 31, the B.C. Supreme Court ordered protesters to allow workers access to a remote logging road in northern B.C. But Wet’suwet’en activists continued to block the road and, days later, 28 were arrested (six of whom were released without charges).

Now, dozens of arrests have followed across the country.

Such lawlessness has been emboldened since 2015, when Trudeau decided the federal government would not enforce the First Nations Financial Transparency Act. The law requires Indigenous leaders, often inherited chiefs, to be accountable and transparent by forcing them to publish audits of band expenses, including their compensation. Along the way, Ottawa has also sidestepped disputes involving corruption, rigged elections, no elections, nepotism and charter rights violations.

By ceding its oversight powers to band chiefs and councils, without checks and balances, or any semblance of accountability, the feds have allowed the rights of the Indigenous people who fall under the control of these chiefs and councils to be trampled upon, according to Indigenous lawyer and activist Catherine Twinn. Now, the rights of all Canadians are being trampled on.

These self-appointed potentates are not only thumbing their noses at the rule of law, but at their own members. For example, Wet’suwet’en member Philip Tait told CTV that he is hoping to get a job with the project. “Right now, this is probably got one of the biggest job creations in the province here, and we want to be part of it,” he said. “The hereditary chiefs’ office, they don’t speak for the whole clan.”

Another member, Bonnie George, added that, “A majority of our people do want to see this project go through. The reason why it’s not out there is because people are afraid to speak up, but that’s starting to change.”

This week, faced with a propane shortage due to the blockade, Quebec Premier François Legault demanded Ottawa must get “involved, because it (the blockade) doesn’t only concern Quebec. It concerns all provinces.”

Yet the federal government’s response has been irresponsible at best. Transport Minister Marc Garneau said enforcement of court orders is up to provinces. The Prime Minister’s Office and the Crown-Indigenous relations minister referred media calls to the natural resources minister’s office, which, in turn, said the matter was a provincial issue. When asked, the prime minister merely said the protests were “an issue of concern” and that he is encouraging “all parties to dialogue to resolve this as quickly as possible.”

In the absence of federal intervention, the crisis will escalate. The chiefs are now demanding that B.C. cancel all permits for this and other resource projects and that the RCMP and provincial authorities vacate the territory. They also invoked a groundless report by the United Nations committee on the elimination of racial discrimination, which urged Canada to stop the Site C dam project, the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion and this Coastal GasLink pipeline, on the basis that the rights of indigenous people have been ignored.

Now a full-blown secession crisis is underway, thanks to the the Liberal government’s abdication of its responsibility to uphold the laws, democratic rights and courts of Canada for all Canadians. It’s a disgrace.

business.financialpost.com/diane-francis/diane-francis-rail-blockades-could-turn-into-a-full-blown-secession-crisis-and-trudeaus-government-is-to-blame?video_autoplay=true

More on hits to the Canadian economy.


globalnews.ca/news/6541014/cn-rail-shut-down-pipeline-protest/

www.princegeorgecitizen.com/news/local-news/blocked-railway-threatening-economy-jobs-port-authority-says-1.24075165
 

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William Watson: If anti-pipeline blockades continue much longer, we need to ask: Who governs Canada?
In 1981, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, finishing her second year in office, proposed to rationalize the country’s coal industry and close unprofitable pits that were haemorrhaging money from the Exchequer. The coal miners’ union resisted and, with coal stocks insufficient to keep the country’s electrical plants operating for more than a few weeks, Thatcher backed down. She did not want a repeat of the brownouts and Three-Day Week that had defeated Edward Heath’s Conservative government in 1974.
Her government then began a quiet but steady buildup of coal stocks. By winter 1984 electrical plants had almost as much coal on hand as they were physically capable of storing. So the government tried its reforms again and the National Union of Miners responded by attempting a strike — attempting because there was no formal vote and sizeable contingents of miners stayed on at work, braving picket lines. In the year of pitched battles that followed, 1,390 police officers were injured and more than 10,000 people arrested. A taxi driver taking a non-striking miner to work was killed when a concrete post was thrown at his car from an overpass. But in March 1985 the union ended the strike with its goals largely unfulfilled and the question that had plagued the U.K. since the 1970s — “Who governs Britain?” — was finally answered. Its government did, not the unions.
If blockades at Vancouver’s port and eastern rail lines continue much longer, Canadians will be asking: “Who governs Canada?” It has been clear for years that if the courts finally decide in favour of pipelines and other resource developments, opponents will take their opposition to construction sites and transportation nodes, as they are now doing.
Our governments have had ample time to plan for the current confrontation — to build up coal stocks, as it were. Have they made good use of their time? It doesn’t look like it. The federal transport minister has carefully pointed out that enforcement of any injunctions obtained against demonstrators is up to the relevant provincial police forces. (And do we really need a court to decide people aren’t allowed to blockade the railroads, highways and ports?)
The premier of Quebec, a province seldom shy about claiming jurisdiction, allowed as how he wasn’t so sure: there are transport issues involved and, you know, transport is federal … but in any case he was talking to Grand Chief Joe Norton of the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake, just across the Mercier Bridge from downtown Montreal, to see if something can’t be done about letting a commuter train resume its regular schedule and move 1,200 ordinary folk from the south shore to the city every day.
As for the prime minster, doubtless he is being briefed by the minute but at the moment he is in Africa seeking votes for a temporary seat on the UN Security Council, a vanity project of surpassing importance in Rockcliffe and the Glebe but about which all other Canadians could not care less. If anything like the time and brain power that have gone into planning our UN campaign have also been devoted to an effective response to the putting up of barricades across the country, we should be fine. But am I the only Canadian who suspects they haven’t been?
Although fundamentally similar, Thatcher’s problem was different from ours in several important details. Canada is larger and more spread out. Power is divided between federal and provincial governments. Our critical infrastructure is vulnerable at hundreds, probably thousands of places. There is a racial dimension (if that word is permitted) to the current confrontation, even if many protesters are not actually First Nations people.
There is one crucial similarity, however. As Thatcher always insisted, the basic disagreement was between miners who understood their industry had to change and their union leadership, which resisted any change whose terms it couldn’t dictate.
Our current difficulties similarly divide the Indigenous community. As the Federal Court of Appeal noted in its Trans Mountain decision last month, 120 of 129 affected Indigenous communities have signed on. In the case of Gas Link, elected chiefs and councils are OK with the project, but some hereditary chiefs are not. I don’t know if native culture contains a direct analogue of game theory’s “the holdout problem,” but it would be surprising if it didn’t: the last few people not giving their consent to an initiative that requires all to sign on is a difficult problem of logic that likely transcends culture.
We face a trilemma of fundamental values. We believe in the rule of law. We are a peaceable people. And we want fairness for First Nations.
Though Canada has not always been fair to First Nations it is hard to read any recent court decision and not conclude that extreme care is now taken to answer and accommodate reasonable objections. That leaves rule of law vs. our peaceful nature. Unfortunately, peaceful natures count for little without the rule of law.
At some stage, sooner better than later, the law needs to be enforced — respectfully, and with restraint and a minimum of force — but firmly. As Thatcher would have done. As, for that matter, Pierre Trudeau almost certainly would have done.
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It sure is starting to look like Canada has been handed over to the native Indians of Canada. Pretty much nothing can be done anymore in Canada without the consent and the blessing of the feather and us all having to listen to them banging on their tom-tom drums.

I remember many decades ago when the air controllers went illegally on strike. I believe that the strike went on for a short while. They were ordered to go back to work. They refused. Ronald Reagan at the time told them once more to go back to work or else. They defied Reagan and Reagan signed an executive order and promptly said that they would all be fired if all of the approx. 11,000 of them did not go back to work in 48 hours. I believe that most went back to work. Now that is a leader. Airlines are like trains. The country relies on both of them to be able for people to be able to do business and for people to survive. The Indians are probably doing us a favor when they shut down the government. For awhile it stops the politicians from doing more damage to the country. Chuckle-chuckle.

Trudeau should be doing the same thing now and demand that those terrorists get off the train tracks now or else. He should tell them that I will charge you all with terrorism and throw all of you in jail if you do not comply. Marc Garneau is the federal transport minister and he said that he is leaving it up to the provinces. Typical of most gutless politicians who are scared to do the right thins. Pass the buck on to the other guy is the best way to do it.

We the people are being controlled by a bunch of politically correct scared cats rather than with a real and true no nonsense Reagan type of leader. I guess that most of them are scared that they might get called a racist for forcing the Native Indians off the tracks? Hey, you never know, eh?
 

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Something will get done about it...soon. When good people lose faith in the ability of the police to enforce the law, and in their leaders to take decisive and required action, then people start to lose respect for the rules. If Trudeau and RCMP commissioner Brenda Lucki don't get their shit together and soon, people will simply take it on themselves to get this straightened out the old fashioned way. Lets see what happens if this goes on for a month or two, maybe throw a government ruling to kill a major AB oilsands project into the mix for good measure. It's a powderkeg waiting to go off, Junior better start looking ahead at the potential outcome of his bad/indecisions, he'd better get it together and figure it out soon.

If this goes on for a month or two our economy will be in the tank, people will be starving and freezing in the dark and our hospitals will be over-flowing with the sick and dying. That may seem like a very dire prediction but the fact is that the rails carry all manner of goods to every point of our country - including oil to heat our homes. People in the north are already being impacted by the rail closures especially those communities that are totally dependent upon them.

www.interior-news.com/news/rail-services-continue-to-feel-brunt-of-anti-pipeline-protests-across-canada/

Tax time is right around the corner. I wonder how many Canadians would join a peaceful revolt by refusing to send in their tax returns? That just might get the attention of our governments. Probably pie-in-the-sky thinking but I'd support such a response in a heartbeat. If they are going to allow the ongoing disruption to responsible Canadian's lives while throwing millions of dollars at African countries in a blatant bribe for the holy grail of a UN Security Commission seat, they most certainly don't deserve another dime of our money.
 

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Demonstrators block CN Railway tracks in New Hazelton, B.C. on Feb. 11, 2020. (Contributed photo by Randall Shoop)



CN Rail to shut down tracks to Prince Rupert port if northern B.C. pipeline blockade continues

www.thenorthernview.com/news/cn-rail-to-shut-down-tracks-to-prince-rupert-port-if-northern-b-c-pipeline-blockade-continues/