B.C. pipeline protests continue to halt Ontario trains for 5th day in a row

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Wet'suwet'en chiefs heading to Ontario to thank Mohawk protesters for support

Four Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs have left B.C. for Ontario to meet with delegates of the Mohawk of Tyendinaga to thank them for their support, CBC News has learned.
Protesters from the Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory have erected a railway blockade outside Belleville, Ont. as a show of solidarity with some of the Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs in B.C., who oppose the Coastal GasLink pipeline project running through their traditional territory.
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How to arrest protesters
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The government, elected officials and bureaucrats alike, in a democracy has many jobs but one duty – to uphold the law. If the people in government are unwilling to fulfill their duty, they should ask themselves why anyone should obey the new laws they pass while in power.
The law in this democracy allows for peaceful protest. Freedom of assembly is enshrined in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Like all freedoms, there are limits. Citizens are free to assemble in public places to protest, grieve, celebrate, communicate. Once that assembly involves the occupation of government offices and the blocking of roads and railways, it infringes upon the rights of others to move freely and it breaks the law.
More often than not, the police in this country arrive, inform the citizens that their assembly is now in violation of the law and ask them to leave. Although ignorance of the law is not a legal defence (meaning the police have the legal authority to show up and immediately make arrests), police officers inform the gathered citizens of the unlawfulness of their actions because arrests are the last resort.
Whether it’s domestic disputes or disturbing the peace, the longstanding practice of Canadian police forces is to give citizens the opportunity to back down.
If those citizens are still unwilling to legalize their behaviour, they are arrested.
Many of the current protests across Canada - like the one held in Prince George last Saturday - are legal. Many are not and those protests should be handled accordingly.
Some of the most passionate protesters are on social media, comparing their causes to Martin Luther King and Gandhi. Aside from the vanity of equating oneself to King or Gandhi (the equivalent of picking up a guitar and proclaiming to be like Bob Dylan), these protesters clearly don’t know much about either man or the protest movements they led. Gandhi and King knew their acts of civil disobedience were in violation of the law and would lead to their arrest. They welcomed it. The black men and women who occupied whites-only lunch counters in the South (the customers were still allowed to eat and the staff were still allowed to cook and serve) were specifically chosen for their calm patience. They would not get upset when people yelled at them, threw things at them or physically assaulted them. When police officers arrived, the protesters told them they would not leave until they were arrested but would not resist arrest or confinement in any way.
Instead, it appears so many of the protesters resist arrest (passive resistance is still resistance), call the arresting officers horrible names and claim that any physical restraint used on them is an act of violence. King and his supporters knew the difference between a night stick smashed over your head and an officer firmly leading you to the back of a squad car.
Most of the current online rants on both sides are horrible, not only because they are intentionally ignorant of the issues and the history but also because they promote more conflict. Political parties, social (anti-social?) activists and environmental groups are the worst, with their email blasts and Facebook posts to their supporters, stoking the outrage and then pleading for money to keep up the good fight. When the battle ends, the cash stops flowing in so these hucksters just want to keep the conflict going.

Beware also the hypocrites. How can someone rip up teachers contracts while in government, forcing teachers to wage a 15-year legal battle to get their rights back and then, without any sense of shame, demand the premier use the rule of law to deal with protesters blocking entrance to the Legislature? And how can someone insist governments respect legal decisions recognizing the authority of First Nations and then shamelessly argue that the government and the courts have no authority when the ruling doesn’t go their way?
"I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law,” King wrote in Letter from Birmingham Jail.
Note the language - “willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment” and “expressing the highest respect for law.”
King had faith in two concepts that were, at the time, in opposition. He believed in the righteousness of his cause (and his ability to convince others of his righteousness through dialogue) and he also believed in justice and the law, even when it put him in a cage.
Whether you support the current protests or any other acts of civil disobedience or not, everyone who believes in democracy can agree on two things – the right to lawfully protest and the sanctity of the law.
If the protest is unlawful and if the protesters are unwilling to back down once the police show up, the protesters should be respectfully and safely arrested without delay. The protesters being arrested should be likewise respectful of the arresting officers and the courts doing their jobs enforcing the law. If the police, the protesters or counter-protesters are violent or incite violence, they should be legally held responsible.
The police, the courts and the law itself are imperfect instruments to build a just and democratic society but they are the best tools we have. While they have failed us at specific times, they have also been tremendously successful over the course of our common history.
www.princegeorgecitizen.com/opinion/editorial/how-to-arrest-protesters-1.24078504
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These pipeline blockades should have been nipped in the bud after the second day that it started. By waiting and talking look what has happened to Canada. Blockades all over the country. Anarchy now everywhere in Canada. These terrorists broke the law the first day they hit the streets. They should have been arrested right away and put in jail. After all, they already have committed many criminal code offences and provincial statutes. Injunctions are a big farce. All the police have to do here is to just enforce the criminal code. Instead of a few being arrested and put in jail, now there is thousands who now have to be arrested and put in jail. This is what happens when we lack political leaders who lack any bal-s. Or just maybe they want it this way for some n/k reason at this time. Hey, you never know, eh?
 
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In the USA they are raking in lots of cash with casinos owned by the natives.
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Well then, let the native Indians here in Canada start up their own Indian casinos on their own land. Go see their brothers in the states and see what and how it is done. I prefer to go to the Indian casinos in Washington state anyway because they are not cheap as our Canadian non-Indian casinos are. I get $5 dollars a week of free play money, while in Washington Indian casinos I can get up to $70 a week. They always offer plenty of free money, free hotel stays, and give away better prizes and better restaurants too. Our Canadian casinos are cheap casinos, especially the ones here in British Columbia. The casinos here in BC are the ones making all the money. They make a $100 and give us back 5. Whoop-dee-doo.
 
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Well then, let the native Indians here in Canada start up their own Indian casinos on their own land. Go see their brothers in the states and see what and how it is done. I prefer to go to the Indian casinos in Washington state anyway because they are not cheap as our Canadian non-Indian casinos are. I get $5 dollars a week of free play money, while in Washington Indian casinos I can get up to $70 a week. They always offer plenty of free money, free hotel stays, and give away better prizes and better restaurants too. Our Canadian casinos are cheap casinos, especially the ones here in British Columbia. The casinos here in BC are the ones making all the money. They make a $100 and give us back 5. Whoop-dee-doo.
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Sorry Pal, the Casino isn't built on winners... :lol:

I only go for the food.. I don't gamble accept for a lotto ticket once in a while. LottoMax or Western 64/9 that's enough money thrown away for me..
 
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Sorry Pal, the Casino isn't built on winners... :lol:
I only go for the food.. I don't gamble accept for a lotto ticket once in a while. LottoMax or Western 64/9 that's enough money thrown away for me..
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Well, that was just one idea as to how they could get off their butts and do something for themselves besides constantly relying on taxpayer's like me for their free money. I am fed up with having my tax dollars stolen from me and given to people who have nothing to offer Canada with that money. Between native Indians, legal and illegal refugees, and giving hundreds of millions of tax dollars away every year to other countries in the form of foreign aid is just not working for me. There are just too many people and NGO outfits here in Canada that are getting just too much free money from the government(taxpayer's)for free who do not deserve those tax dollars.

They are just all lucky people to be getting all that money for free because the dumb downed average Canadian taxpayer either does not know as to what is going on with their tax dollars or they just do not really care as to where their tax dollars are going. Personally, I think that it would be the latter.

I buy my lottery tickets in Washington state. They have a lotto called Big Five where all one needs to win the lottery is to be able to have just five numbers drawn. A little easier to maybe win, but no real big gigantic payout. About two hundred thousand American dollars which I will have no problem taking if I ever win. Add another 30% to that and I will be laughing all the way to the bank. Lol.
 
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BREAKING: Quebec train derailment may have been intentional: source

Roberto Wakerell-Cruz, 1 min ago 1 min read
CN Railway is investigating after a train derailment in Sainte-Marie-Salome in Quebec.
The derailment happened at roughly 12:45 am Wednesday night. Sainte-Marie Salome is roughly an hour north of Montreal, Quebec.
“Two cars derailed and there’s no danger for the public, no injuries, no fire and no dangerous goods are involved,” CN senior manager of public affairs Olivier Quenneville told CTV News.
A source reportedly told CTV News that they believe something was purposely put onto the tracks to derail the train. A CN spokesperson did not confirm whether or not that is true.
“The incident is still under investigation and we will not comment further,” said Quenneville.
CN is currently investigating the situation with a team on the ground.
This story will be updated.
source: https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-quebec-train-derailment-may-have-been-intentional-source/
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If protesters start sabotaging rail lines, they should be charged with terrorism. And yet Trudeau still takes no action...
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Trudeau does not give a chit about Canada. Trudeau is a globalist and all that concerns that buffoon is the rest of the world and how much he can help the rest of the world with our tax dollars of course. The other day all he could say is that we will still try and get together and talk some more. So while the country starts to go belly up, all he wants to do is talk some more. I wonder who were the fools that gave Trudeau back his PM job again? They should really be ashamed of themselves. As if four years of his scandals, ethic violations, and lies was not enough for them they wanted more. There appears to be a huge amount of common sense and logic gone missing here in Canada land. Pathetic indeed.
 
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Via Rail temporarily lays off 1,000 people due to blockade crisis
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Ask Trudeau or your elected MP if they really care? It is quite obvious that they could careless about what is going on with all of these blockades and layoffs. There is no law and order in Canada anymore. We are now seeing communist tyranny in the making for this country. And it can only get worse because our dear leaders will do nothing about it. Layoffs happening all over the country. Projects being held up. Lost revenue in taxes gone down the drain. People and goods and services almost halted to a stand still. But yet here is Trudeau again saying that we must sit down and talk some more. What a joke this guy has become for Canada. I think that he is enjoying these terrorist demonstrations.

What our dear leaders need to do is demand that the police do their job and use the criminal code to arrest and charge and even jail these Marxist thug terrorists. Although I do believe that our politicians and our police have allowed this to go on for far too long that it is either the government must capitulate to the Indians demands for more and forever or do their bloody job that we expect and are paying them to do. We the people needs them to get off their lazy useless azzes and work for their money for a change. Just saying.
 
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Well here you go Red Apple politics in action

Kanesatake chief retracts rail blockade comments after community uproar

If he wouldn't have retracted and apologized he might have been stripped of title and banished, all for a white corporation out of Ont.
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Ah, democracy in action, ain't it grand./s Nothing like electing a puppet only able to regurgitate what a bunch of protestors want him too and woe betide him should he express a thought of his own - reasonable as it was.
 
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Originally it was indian act that oppressed us and we beat it. Now the NGOs and even Native organizations oppress us. In the middle of all this posturing and politics, average aboriginals remain in place with their social issues
 
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There must be a board meeting coming up

Wet'suwet'en chiefs heading to Ontario to thank Mohawk protesters for support
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I guess they never heard of teleconferencing. Save themselves a whole bunch of wampum.........but hey they will probably have the spineless little twit pick up the tab anyway.


Mind you with these guys out of the way, work on the link can go full steam ahead.
 
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CBC actually allowed comments on a pipeline protest issue. So I jumped in.


[FONT=&quot]Edwardo Law[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This is a crisis. I don't think that Trudeau grasps the weight of the situation..[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]And that surprises you?
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[FONT=&quot]Ross Howe[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The media has lots of opinion but no substance. Listening to Power Play, all these media yaks just inflame and say nothing. What happen(ed) to fact based news and less opinon?[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Me:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It went out the window when the liberal government decided to hand out millions in bribes to their pet media which in Canada appears to be every single Canadian network.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]Mind you I saw that one coming.
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[FONT=&quot]"The PMs calls for yet more patience may well fall on deaf ears as Canadians have shown nothing but for the last two weeks while watching their nation devolve into chaos and mob rule. Does anyone think that were it the Chinese, Italians, Irish or any other ethnicity blockading our vital rail lines that those people would have been removed before day's end? [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot] No democracy in the world would allow two separate sets of laws in their country which is basically what some FNs are demanding and which they most definitely must be denied. One law for all must be the rule of the land.
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[FONT=&quot]Alan Bishop[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"Trudeau calls pitch to replace RCMP with Indigenous police on Wet'suwet'en territory 'a good idea'" [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Hmmm. So Trudeau is going to tell the RCMP to leave the Wet'suwet'en territory. I was left with the impression that politicians do not tell police how to do their job.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Me[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Especially being that they are there by order of a BC court injunction something that he has absolutely no right to speak too as it is solely a provincial matter.....but then this is not the first time he's inserted his views into a matter of provincial law.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]Why did these elders wait till now to do this? The talks have been going on for years.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]Reply to @Terry Philips: Since 2004 to be exact giving them over a decade and numerous opportunities to share their concerns.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The PC nazis at CBC actually let that one stand.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]What is rather puzzling is that though disabled the comments are still available for all to see.[/FONT]
 
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Our prime minister says he is negotiating with the hereditary chiefs, who should not have any power, but none the less, they are protesting. Justin is negotiating how much money they will accept before they go home. The liberals have made it so that the First Nations people can do nothing wrong, made possible by the fact that they can do anything they want and are never persecuted. There cases where the band council take a lot of money from the band, made available for housing and programs and know that the government will not do anything. Would the reason that the government are hiding is because they do not want to LOOSE ANY VOTES?
 
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Our prime minister says he is negotiating with the hereditary chiefs, who should not have any power, but none the less, they are protesting. Justin is negotiating how much money they will accept before they go home. The liberals have made it so that the First Nations people can do nothing wrong, made possible by the fact that they can do anything they want and are never persecuted. There cases where the band council take a lot of money from the band, made available for housing and programs and know that the government will not do anything. Would the reason that the government are hiding is because they do not want to LOOSE ANY VOTES?
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It may be that money will buy them off, but it may also be that they are after the Big Enchilada - the full and complete implementation of UNDRIP and nothing short of that will make them take down the blockades. The government announced today that though they were to bring the bill to the House today, they postponed doing so due to the blockades which I don't imagine went over well with the FN activists. Hopefully, the delay will give the Opposition time to mount a campaign against it's implementation or in lieu of that force significant changes to the bill.



No one should be 'persecuted' in Canada. If you actually meant prosecuted then that's an entirely different kettle of fish.


The government isn't hiding, its obfuscating, delaying, dithering, vacillating and thoroughly irresolute.
 
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