Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77
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Wow! this is way to lame, even for me 8O nah! I am not going after this nibble...I am after bigger fish..back to the chuck for you.
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The thing that you are missing is that people are doing something about. We are speaking out against your atrocities, killing, maiming, unfair imprisonment, arrogance, greed, lies,.... you want me to continue?
I think not said:
The thing that you are missing is that people are doing something about. We are speaking out against your atrocities, killing, maiming, unfair imprisonment, arrogance, greed, lies,.... you want me to continue?
I think so too. Yes, we can get assertive in our statements etc.....but the message is clear. I would find little joy in being a "superpower" and having the world ( or a good portion of it) dissed off at said superpower. There is little joy in having the kind of reputation the "superpower" has now.
whether people want to admit it to themselves......it must be very disquieting for them. If not......then "they" collectively or singularly are more jaded and cynical than many of us thought.
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You are doing nothing about it. You want to do something? Go burn an American flag in Ottawa in protest. Write to your MP and tell them what you think about the US invasion of Iraq and what role Canada can play in Iraq. While you're at it, do the same for the Arab/Israeli conflict.
Please continue with your rambling. You have that right. While you're at it, speak of those who show apathy and are equally guilty. Speak of others that perform the same "crimes". But you won't because it doesn't serve your need.
moghrabi said:
You are doing nothing about it. You want to do something? Go burn an American flag in Ottawa in protest. Write to your MP and tell them what you think about the US invasion of Iraq and what role Canada can play in Iraq. While you're at it, do the same for the Arab/Israeli conflict.
Please continue with your rambling. You have that right. While you're at it, speak of those who show apathy and are equally guilty. Speak of others that perform the same "crimes". But you won't because it doesn't serve your need.
Ocean Breeze said:
This "superpower" crticism is as old as time. In 50 years when China is a superpower the tables will have turned and then they will be criticised.
of course it is. But you was the one who brought it up.. :wink:
In fact I dislike that term completely. It has negative connotations. :wink:
I think not said:
imo.......it is wiser to stay away from so much power grabbing (superpower status factor)and work at genuine cooperation. Takes longer, more diplomacy, tact and strategy......but in the long run.....more constructive.
human nature being what it is......competition is just part of the scenario.
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I am doing something about it in my own way. I do not burn a country's flag because I dislike their government. I am not going to tell Ottawa what to do in Iraq because it is not our business to cleanup your government mess. I am doing a lot for the Israeli-Palestinian cause by talking to both sides. I have many Israeli friends who oppose their government actions against the pals. As I have American friends who oppose their government action around the world.
If you feel what I am saying is rambling that is your right too. I am not here to fight rather I am here to discuss and open the door to more understanding between cultures.
I think not said:
I am doing something about it in my own way. I do not burn a country's flag because I dislike their government. I am not going to tell Ottawa what to do in Iraq because it is not our business to cleanup your government mess. I am doing a lot for the Israeli-Palestinian cause by talking to both sides. I have many Israeli friends who oppose their government actions against the pals. As I have American friends who oppose their government action around the world.
If you feel what I am saying is rambling that is your right too. I am not here to fight rather I am here to discuss and open the door to more understanding between cultures.
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You're not exactly a goodwill ambassador mog. All your posts indicate that. You have a need to understand and show the truth. But your blinded by your own pre-conceptions. You have shown that many times.
You cannot make the distinction between the US government and US citizens. For you, its the US citizens that have brought upon this so called mess. And in your eyes they are one in the same.
When you make comments in an attempt to piss me off, you must have a very low opinion of my views. I have to be all around anything against American to satisfy you and I am not, because I don't see things the way you do.
You don't believe Canada can make a difference in Iraq because it is our mess. Fine. I accept the fact it it's our mess.
So now what? Backseat criticism? Being negative serves a different purpose not a solution. Make a difference in the Arab/Israeli conflict why don't you. A new face in the Middle East may be exactly what the Middle East needs.
moghrabi said:
You're not exactly a goodwill ambassador mog. All your posts indicate that. You have a need to understand and show the truth. But your blinded by your own pre-conceptions. You have shown that many times.
You cannot make the distinction between the US government and US citizens. For you, its the US citizens that have brought upon this so called mess. And in your eyes they are one in the same.
When you make comments in an attempt to piss me off, you must have a very low opinion of my views. I have to be all around anything against American to satisfy you and I am not, because I don't see things the way you do.
You don't believe Canada can make a difference in Iraq because it is our mess. Fine. I accept the fact it it's our mess.
So now what? Backseat criticism? Being negative serves a different purpose not a solution. Make a difference in the Arab/Israeli conflict why don't you. A new face in the Middle East may be exactly what the Middle East needs.
You don't make a good-will ambassador either ITN. You are as biased as anyone. But I tell you that I do distinguish between the American person and their government.
you see, you are in the habit of if I don't agree with you 100% then I am your enemy (with us or against us mentality). You are wrong there. Yes I have to prove you wrong as long as you defend your government actions. If you keep defending it, then you are like them and your opinion means nothing to me.
The onus is on your side to defend and prove why should we like America, not on me. I am not American and I am not defending your government action. I am a proud Canadian who decided to stay out of this mess because the version of your president before the war did not make any sense to us.
At least 50% of you did not vote this moron into office. That means 50% of you are thinking on their own. The rest, either they voted for the love of war or being totally brain-washed by him.
you see, you are in the habit of if I don't agree with you 100% then I am your enemy (with us or against us mentality). You are wrong there. Yes I have to prove you wrong as long as you defend your government actions. If you keep defending it, then you are like them and your opinion means nothing to me.
The onus is on your side to defend and prove why should we like America, not on me. I am not American and I am not defending your government action. I am a proud Canadian who decided to stay out of this mess because the version of your president before the war did not make any sense to us.
At least 50% of you did not vote this moron into office. That means 50% of you are thinking on their own. The rest, either they voted for the love of war or being totally brain-washed by him.
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You think of me as being biased because I have to disagree 100% with anything the American government does, and how can I when I don't. If that makes me biased then so be it.
You have never agreed with on anything except when I told you I disagree with Israeli actions in the Middle East. You also do not bother reading any of my posts because I have never indicated that sort of mentality, thats you falsely spinning once again.
I have never approved of Bush's actions and I challenge you to find a post that I have.
You don't have to like America. You don't have to like anything American. I would suggest you limit your opinions to yourself as I am well aware many within your own country approved of the Bush action even though I didn't.
You're right but at least we get to vote which moron governs us as opposed to you.
moghrabi said:
You think of me as being biased because I have to disagree 100% with anything the American government does, and how can I when I don't. If that makes me biased then so be it.
moghrabi said:
You have never agreed with on anything except when I told you I disagree with Israeli actions in the Middle East. You also do not bother reading any of my posts because I have never indicated that sort of mentality, thats you falsely spinning once again.
moghrabi said:
I have never approved of Bush's actions and I challenge you to find a post that I have.
moghrabi said:
You don't have to like America. You don't have to like anything American. I would suggest you limit your opinions to yourself as I am well aware many within your own country approved of the Bush action even though I didn't.
moghrabi said:
You're right but at least we get to vote which moron governs us as opposed to you.
Yes, we have our own messes to clean up in our own country. You take care of your invasions, and we will take care of ours, guess we will be doing something else eh?
You know you don't need canadian help, you know it, we know it. You only want to use us to add some kind of legitimacy to the invasion of Iraq. Its an old raven trick, thats why they call him the trickster. 8O
You know you don't need canadian help, you know it, we know it. You only want to use us to add some kind of legitimacy to the invasion of Iraq. Its an old raven trick, thats why they call him the trickster. 8O
peapod said:
I had no idea you can turn an "illegal" war into a "legal" war just by participating. Interesting to know.
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Did the United States bring the attacks on the World Trade Center on itself? Many would say “yes.” Millions of people around the world were screaming “America has been hit!” This was not a shout of sorrow or pity, rather a shout of joy and triumph. America has a reputation of arrogance, ignorance and domination. This is what led to the attacks on September 11th. “The world doesn’t want to be American.” Though many aspects of American culture are looked upon with respect, others such as the strong desire for global capitalism, supported by military force and the neglect and destructiveness of the environment are looked down on with disgust. The self-righteous belief that America’s way is the best way is without a doubt an attitude that other countries on the receiving end do not appreciate. The USA has imposed its power on countries all around the world, many times using military force. Understandably, a certain perception has been built up that America does whatever is necessary to have its way, even if it means using its military power to get it. Maybe then, the terrorists saw the destruction of the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon symbolic of economic power and military strength that America takes pride in.
I think not said:
Did the United States bring the attacks on the World Trade Center on itself? Many would say “yes.” Millions of people around the world were screaming “America has been hit!” This was not a shout of sorrow or pity, rather a shout of joy and triumph. America has a reputation of arrogance, ignorance and domination. This is what led to the attacks on September 11th. “The world doesn’t want to be American.” Though many aspects of American culture are looked upon with respect, others such as the strong desire for global capitalism, supported by military force and the neglect and destructiveness of the environment are looked down on with disgust. The self-righteous belief that America’s way is the best way is without a doubt an attitude that other countries on the receiving end do not appreciate. The USA has imposed its power on countries all around the world, many times using military force. Understandably, a certain perception has been built up that America does whatever is necessary to have its way, even if it means using its military power to get it. Maybe then, the terrorists saw the destruction of the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon symbolic of economic power and military strength that America takes pride in.
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There is no such thing as a real democracy unless Direct Democracy is implemented, but as far as the general perception goes, yup, you have a bit to catch up on.
Think about it. Those who run the country aren't voted in by Canadians. The Prime Minister, The Governor General, Your Commander n Chief of your Armed Forces (The Queen across the pond), Your lifetime Senators appointed by I forget who, I think the PM.
moghrabi said:
There is no such thing as a real democracy unless Direct Democracy is implemented, but as far as the general perception goes, yup, you have a bit to catch up on.
Think about it. Those who run the country aren't voted in by Canadians. The Prime Minister, The Governor General, Your Commander n Chief of your Armed Forces (The Queen across the pond), Your lifetime Senators appointed by I forget who, I think the PM.