Assisted living type of home

saltyangel

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For seniors and people with disabilities that are willing to relocate we are an assisted living type of home in the quaint little town of Listowel Ontario. We offer private rooms, some with private baths, three meals a day and evening snack. There is laundry, light house keeping, medication dispensing as well as 24 hour staff. We are located in a small town within walking distance of all the amenities of downtown including all major banks, Giant Tiger, post office, a walk-in clinic and the hospital. We offer reasonable rates and a friendly atmosphere. Come join our family. For information call (Pat or Stephanie) 226-640-0052 or (Dave) 519-492-1017.
 

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If you are ever thinking of expanding west there is a lovely spot along HWY 40 that would be suitable for a complex of that nature. A few years ago the Province was going to build a rehab near there but it was too close to being pristine foothills country. This location is quite close to that sort of country. Set up some remote cameras and big screens around the facility.

Because it is a place for old folks are you pushing for changes in assisted suicide so the old aren't kept alive longer than they want to? That is a serious question, the next part is just as serious, in the activity section why not a facility that would follow the theme of 'Last Ride Water Park and Crematorium and there is a location close by that could have runs that are a full km long and at a gentle slope, others are very steep and very fast, not something a frail person would survive but the visiting younger crowd would have a blast. Zip-lines and rocket powered sled on rail is also something that would fit in activity that is deadly to the really old people. The same location has HWY 666 that would be a marketing goldmine to the right crowd.

It is probably just an accident but beds in the old folks home these days just about covers what they clients get in OAS benefits.
 

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For seniors and people with disabilities that are willing to relocate we are an assisted living type of home in the quaint little town of Listowel Ontario. We offer private rooms, some with private baths, three meals a day and evening snack. There is laundry, light house keeping, medication dispensing as well as 24 hour staff. We are located in a small town within walking distance of all the amenities of downtown including all major banks, Giant Tiger, post office, a walk-in clinic and the hospital. We offer reasonable rates and a friendly atmosphere. Come join our family. For information call (Pat or Stephanie) 226-640-0052 or (Dave) 519-492-1017.


What's the cost per person (approximately)?
 

captain morgan

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Elder care will be a massive industry in the very near future.

A friend of mine shopped for a place for his dad who required more specialized care than what he could deliver. Nothing super intense, but basically wanted a place with access to folks that could be there at all times.

The costs he came across were anywhere from $4,000 to $7,000 a month.
 

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Elder care will be a massive industry in the very near future.

A friend of mine shopped for a place for his dad who required more specialized care than what he could deliver. Nothing super intense, but basically wanted a place with access to folks that could be there at all times.

The costs he came across were anywhere from $4,000 to $7,000 a month.
Yes it depends on the kind of care the person requires.
If they are fairly independent the cost is lower but if they require lots of attention it's costly.......
 

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The best option for the old ones is still to be cared for by their natural family, either that or give them the assisted suicide option. The terminally ill can bet a bed covered by the Government. What is really crooked is paying for the bed before you are even a resident there. I'm pretty sure I can find a brochure that stipulates that.
 

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The best option for the old ones is still to be cared for by their natural family,

Absolutely, although people are living much longer lives and not only does this require more care physically but also the mental health issues start to play a role.

This was the case with my friend's dad, he was suffering from dementia and there was a real fear that his confusion might lead to problems
 

tay

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So what happens to people who have no family and can't afford a place?
Are there govt facilities that look after them......?
 

captain morgan

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Pretty much... These facilities do exist but there is no where near enough room to accommodate everyone

One of the trends today are that a number of seniors end up basically living in the local hospital and taking up beds... An extremely expensive way to do things, but that's the way it is
 

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So what happens to people who have no family and can't afford a place?
Are there govt facilities that look after them......?

There are, but it's better to just die than to go to them.

Whoever can figure out a way of delivering good care at a reasonable price
is going to make a fortune.
 

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There are, but it's better to just die than to go to them.

Whoever can figure out a way of delivering good care at a reasonable price
is going to make a fortune.
Combine orphanages and old folks homes into one unit and have the 12-16 being a major part of who the care givers are.

Yes, because everyone is capable of quitting work to look after a dementia patient 24/7/365.
Cure them of it and you will both be a lot happier.

That is our ad. This is the place that I live and we have a lot of rooms available because people do not want to relocate.
See my orphan comment, perhaps that will solve the empty beds issue.
 

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The largest grouping of long-term care operators in Ontario is calling for a dramatic increase in spending on nursing homes.

The province should create 10,000 new long-term care beds in the next five years and boost its subsidy for older nursing homes to rebuild, says the Ontario Long-Term Care Association (OLTCA) in its pre-budget submission to the government, released Wednesday.

The document, called "More Care. Better Care" indicates that 32,000 people are on the waiting list for spots in long-term care homes in Ontario, a number that is growing by 15 per cent annually.

"I'm optimistic that we're going to see some movement," said Candace Chartier, chief executive of the OLTCA, during a speech to reveal the budget proposal. "Hopefully we'll see more beds, more staff, more investment into the care that we need to look after our seniors."

Hazel McCallion, 96, the former mayor of Mississauga, was at the launch and endorsed the association's push.

"The province has got to start making some decisions on long-term care," said McCallion. "The need for long-term care is building every day in the province and if the beds are not provided, it's going to become a crisis situation."

The association is calling for a 24 per cent increase in the provincial subsidy to older nursing homes that need to redevelop to meet new Ministry of Health standards for space and facilities.

More than 300 such homes across Ontario are slated to be rebuilt by 2025 but so far, says the report, "progress is less than slow." The association says the size of the subsidy is "one of the biggest issues keeping long-term care operators from moving ahead with redevelopment."

The current subsidy works out to $19.4 million for an average 128-bed nursing home, to be paid out over a 25-year period.
CBC News reported Tuesday that the operators of eight long-term-care homes in Toronto with nearly 1,300 residents have told the province they intend to shut down and move their operations elsewhere because the subsidy is not enough given the cost of rebuilding in the city.

Chartier tried to downplay the risk of the homes leaving.

"We know the cost of land and availability of land and you name it are issues, but we think we can come up with some solutions," she said. "What about the vacant school land? What about lease-to-own?"

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Nursing home group wants more beds, bigger construction subsidy - Toronto - CBC News
 

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For seniors and people with disabilities that are willing to relocate we are an assisted living type of home in the quaint little town of Listowel Ontario. We offer private rooms, some with private baths, three meals a day and evening snack. There is laundry, light house keeping, medication dispensing as well as 24 hour staff. We are located in a small town within walking distance of all the amenities of downtown including all major banks, Giant Tiger, post office, a walk-in clinic and the hospital. We offer reasonable rates and a friendly atmosphere. Come join our family. For information call (Pat or Stephanie) 226-640-0052 or (Dave) 519-492-1017.

 

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I just spent 3 weeks in the hospital for a hip replacement, not my choice but it had to be done. The last week I was put into a semi-room with an elderly fellow who had the same procedure. He was also suffering from dementia. He was always trying to get out of bed, day and night, and I had to keep calling the nurses to control him. Eventually they were rolling him out in front of the nurses station to control him.

Just saying when people are sick mentally like this fellow it's very hard to control them as nothing you say to them registers for more than 10 minutes. I am in no way endorsing the actions outlined below but I can see where it's a real problem controlling these patients and I have no idea on how to contain them in a humane way. On my 2nd last day his family had him moved to a home somewhere.....


Reports reveal 46 abuse cases over 2 years in Nova Scotia nursing homes


Residents at long-term care facilities in Nova Scotia were physically, emotionally or sexually abused or not provided adequate care in at least 46 confirmed cases over a two-year period, a CBC News investigation has learned.

At least half of those cases involve abuse by a staff member. Physical and emotional abuse, or a combination of the two, were the most common type of confirmed abuse during the period examined, 2015 and 2016. On seven occasions, staff failed to provide adequate food, medical care or other necessities of life. There was one case of sexual abuse by a staff member.

Reports about the incidents obtained by CBC News under the Freedom of Information Act were heavily redacted, but some of the directives from the province to the facilities in question are not.

They include orders to train staff on recognizing "escalating situations," signs of abuse and the duty to report allegations. In some cases, there are orders to train staff on dealing with patients with dementia, answering call bells in a "safe and appropriate time frame," treating wounds properly and doing routine checks to be sure residents are safe.

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I volunteer with the homeless here in Midland Ont, many are on disability or old age.
We have a hard time finding empty places to put them.

How are you with druggies, pill heads, alcoholics, and somewhat slow or slightly insane people or various combinations there of...?
( most are not too bad while on their meds)

Well, we are having trouble placing a one legged heroin addict and some single fathers.

Hey! You guys have a yarn factory outlet nearby!!!
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Perfect!
 
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tay

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I volunteer with the homeless here in Midland Ont, many are on disability or old age.
We have a hard time finding empty places to put them.

How are you with druggies, pill heads, alcoholics, and somewhat slow or slightly insane people or various combinations there of...?
( most are not too bad while on their meds)

Actually I think he went to Midland. Some sort of place where he would be for a few months to work on his dementia type issues.
I was trying to express how challenging it is to control people like him from hurting themselves. If he had gotten out of bed and fallen that would have been a real problem for him.


As for the other people you mention I have no idea on a solution....