I'm not sure as*hole can be kosher. Kinda like there's no such thing as kosher pork loin.
Are we in a new world Empire? A NWO?
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Follow the money to whoever runs the world.
I have just started to watch this gent and I am not sure if he is above my pay scale but he seems to make some sense.
He is a well accredited historian and seems to be sating that if China and the U.S. do not go into WWIII, their coalition will run the finances of the world.
If they do not, then Asian countries seems to be the group who will.
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DL
I do not mind rendering unto Caesar as all our politicians are bought men and slaved to our oligarch owners, the same as we all are owned.
I would not mind knowing who I am owned by though, that's all.
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DL
World capital of what? The (business) article shows one stat that is highest (currency exchange). Even admits to being a much smaller equity market. Then goes on to make it about culture. Not sure what the point is. Ultimately a pissing contest over subjective stuff.
Whether they disagree or not is immaterial. The fact is that India, like many countries (including Canada), would not be the country it is today were it not for the British Empire.
Rather than this amnesia about Britain's finest achievement, I wish more of us shared the PM's pride in Empire
By Stephen Glover for the Daily Mail
21 February 2013
Daily Mail
Do British people feel proud of the Empire? Are they indifferent to it? Or have they been persuaded by the teaching of history, so influenced by the Left, that the British Empire was purely oppressive, racist and bad?
These questions arise from David Cameron’s visit this week to India. He arrived, begging bowl in hand, with his eye on increasing future trade with the country. But he found himself pulled back to the past, and to the question of whether or not Britain was a force for good in India.
He was drawn back to Amritsar, where, in 1919, British troops (largely made up of Gurkhas) led by Brigadier-General Reginald Dyer shot dead 379 Indians after several Europeans had been killed.
David Cameron was drawn back to the subject of the Amritsar massacre, where, in 1919, British troops led by Brigadier-General Reginald Dyer shot dead 379 Indians after several Europeans had been killed
Over the next few days Dyer flogged miscreants, and ordered Indians to crawl on their bellies along a street where a woman missionary had been assaulted by rioters.
It was a shameful business. Though supported by some in Britain, Dyer was condemned in Parliament, and effectively dismissed from the Army. The arch-imperialist, and later opponent of Indian Home Rule, Winston Churchill described Amritsar as a ‘monstrous event’.
But the damage had been done. Rather as the savage British reaction to the 1916 Easter Rebellion in Dublin turned the tide decisively towards Irish independence, so Dyer’s brutal and trigger-happy behaviour acted as a recruiting sergeant for Indian nationalists such as Gandhi.
Mr Cameron was sensible not to apologise for this episode — how can you apologise for something over which you had no control? — but right to express his deep sense of shame. In the 20th century, Amritsar probably ranks as the British Empire’s worst crime.
If what happened in Amritsar were the story of the British Empire in India, we should all hang our heads in shame. But it wasn’t.
Speaking to journalists after his visit, the Prime Minister insisted — rather daringly, perhaps, given widespread anti-imperial sentiment — that he still has pride in the Empire.
‘I think there’s an enormous amount to be proud of in what the British Empire did and was responsible for,’ he said. ‘But of course there were bad events as well as good ones.’ That’s true. And I’d argue that the good outweighed the bad.
Remorse: Mr Cameron expressed his deep sense of shame for the Amritsar episode which took place in 1919
Bloodbath: British soldiers (largely made up of Gurkhas) opened fire on around 20,000 peaceful protestors close to the Golden Temple in Amritsar, as depicted in the 1982 film Gandhi
Even the anti-imperialist George Orwell admitted, when examining a map of Asia in the Thirties, that a large proportion of the railways were situated in British India. When India became independent in 1947 it was, though of course very poor, a major industrial power.
The British laid down the rule of law through much of India, and banned suttee, the Hindu practise of burning widows alive on the funeral pyres of their husbands. Decent schools and universities were established for the education of Indians.
A parliament was created, admittedly with limited powers, as well as a functioning (if overly bureaucratic) civil service increasingly dominated by Indians. Particularly when Lord Curzon was Viceroy, much was done to preserve great Indian historic monuments.
For their part, Indians made a huge contribution to the Empire. More of them died in World War I than did Australians or Canadians, and in World War II more Indians enlisted than Australians, Canadians and New Zealanders combined.
Of course, bad things were done. Even by the standards of the time, British retaliation after the 1857 Indian mutiny was excessive. The British did little or nothing to ameliorate severe famines in India in the late 19th century, though to describe them as a ‘Victorian Holocaust’, as has one historian, seems way over the top.
Good outweighs the bad: Anti-imperialist George Orwell admitted, when examining a map of Asia in the Thirties, that a large proportion of the railways were situated in British India
Above all, perhaps, British rule created India as a political entity — though our over-hasty departure in 1947 encouraged partition (the creation of Pakistan), which entailed the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in inter-ethnic violence.
India is nonetheless India because the British were there.
The same can be said of the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and dozens of other nations in Africa, Asia and the Caribbean.
Some of them may have problems that can be partly attributed to their colonial past, but they all owe their existence as states to the British Empire.
I agree.
As that link I gave shows for India, if the British had not taken all of their wealth and had allowed then to grow from their initial position, India would probably be the leaders of the world economy and not the U.S.
British powers sucked out a huge amount of India's wealth before finally leaving it and that is why many agree that reparations of some kind are in order.
As to Canada and the U.S., we are what we are because we were quick to put the British in their place and rid our countries from their profit robbing ways.
Regards
DL
Accredited historians! When did the truth need to depend on some board of credit allotment? Of course we all have to have some gauge to compare against what we observe , but testing tire pressure with a light meter is not going to work is it? So when we bend to the sactioned academics we better be sure they have no other interests except the truth of whatever field they are deemed to be expert in. The legions of compromized academics of this age are no secret and the works based on thier best advise are no secret to anyone with eyes to see. I listened to accredited scientist this morning speak total rubbish about the dangers of the proven to be warming planet while such a thing is clearly not in the cards, so I'm not inclined to give any accredited person a free ride when and if I can educate myself enough to make my own decision, even as far as what medicine my physician prescribes especially what medicine my physician prescribes. I might bend a bit if I had questions about my thermonuclear reactors or submarines.
Accredited historians! When did the truth need to depend on some board of credit allotment? Of course we all have to have some gauge to compare against what we observe , but testing tire pressure with a light meter is not going to work is it? So when we bend to the sactioned academics we better be sure they have no other interests except the truth of whatever field they are deemed to be expert in. The legions of compromized academics of this age are no secret and the works based on thier best advise are no secret to anyone with eyes to see. I listened to accredited scientist this morning speak total rubbish about the dangers of the proven to be warming planet while such a thing is clearly not in the cards, so I'm not inclined to give any accredited person a free ride when and if I can educate myself enough to make my own decision, even as far as what medicine my physician prescribes especially what medicine my physician prescribes. I might bend a bit if I had questions about my thermonuclear reactors or submarines.
A climate change denier. Wow.
Heard that there were some like you around but never though I would meet one.
Have you not noticed what is happening to our tree line and northern climate?
Never mind. I am not into such an discussion.
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DL
actually I'm not into that either. Don't know much about it other than it seems like more fuel for the fire
It's interesting how you framed my opinion about climate change as one of a denier. You might as well have said idiot, of course the climate is changeing, it has always changed, and will continue to change as long as the planet remains a planet. I am not a global warming religious believer nut. It ain't getting warm its getting cold. Same as the economy ain't getting better its getting worse, brought to us by the same liars and thieves.
Sometimes I think when changes take place on the planets it's just the earths immune system kicking in.It's interesting how you framed my opinion about climate change as one of a denier. You might as well have said idiot, of course the climate is changeing, it has always changed, and will continue to change as long as the planet remains a planet. I am not a global warming religious believer nut. It ain't getting warm its getting cold. Same as the economy ain't getting better its getting worse, brought to us by the same liars and thieves.
Any specific details are way over this dummies head though.
Well there seems to be the cold detail that's making itself known, whereas the warm seems uninterested in showing up. There's two details easy to grasp there should be no fooling either if us from now on.
Since there's nothing I can do to move the planet I'v decided to wait and see, and pile up lots of survival supplies, in a cave, it's going to be expensive.
The primary reason for impoverishing the Northern hemisphere is the NEB secret forcast for millions of manual snow removal units. In the next few years, there simply won't be any ration of fossile fuels left to run the plows and no spare parts from China. Eliminating China would make it easier for the rest of us to meet our carbon quotas. I'm not suggesting that I'm just interested in math. What does the new Prime Minister say. The Americans are supposed to attack China next weekI heard. Maybe we won't have to. American make a lot of carbon as well you know. If anything bad were to happen our fossile fuel rations could double you know. Imagine hot food three times a week. I think the planet has a lot of experiance handling humans, it's the last thing I'm worried about.
The primary reason for impoverishing the Northern hemisphere is the NEB secret forcast for millions of manual snow removal units. In the next few years, there simply won't be any ration of fossile fuels left to run the plows and no spare parts from China. Eliminating China would make it easier for the rest of us to meet our carbon quotas. I'm not suggesting that I'm just interested in math. What does the new Prime Minister say. The Americans are supposed to attack China next weekI heard. Maybe we won't have to. American make a lot of carbon as well you know. If anything bad were to happen our fossile fuel rations could double you know. Imagine hot food three times a week. I think the planet has a lot of experiance handling humans, it's the last thing I'm worried about.
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Yeah. And, when making a good salsa don't forget the cilantroWell there seems to be the cold detail that's making itself known, whereas the warm seems uninterested in showing up. There's two details easy to grasp there should be no fooling either if us from now on.Since there's nothing I can do to move the planet I'v decided to wait and see, and pile up lots of survival supplies, in a cave, it's going to be expensive.
The primary reason for impoverishing the Northern hemisphere is the NEB secret forcast for millions of manual snow removal units. In the next few years, there simply won't be any ration of fossile fuels left to run the plows and no spare parts from China. Eliminating China would make it easier for the rest of us to meet our carbon quotas. I'm not suggesting that I'm just interested in math. What does the new Prime Minister say. The Americans are supposed to attack China next weekI heard. Maybe we won't have to. American make a lot of carbon as well you know. If anything bad were to happen our fossile fuel rations could double you now. Imagine hot food three times a week. I think the planet has a lot of experiance handling humans, it's the last thing I'm worried about.