Are Palestinians the Indigenous People of Palestine?

Machjo

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The Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים ISO 259-3 Yehudim Israeli pronunciation [jehuˈdim]); (בני ישראל, Standard: Bnai Yisraʾel; Tiberian: Bnai Yiśrāʾēl; ISO 259-3: Bnai Yiśraʾel, translated as: "Children of Israel" or "Sons of Israel"), also known as the Jewish people, are a nation and ethnoreligious group originating from the Israelites (Hebrews) of the Ancient Near East.

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So how do you explain converts to the Jewish Faith? You do know they exist too, right?

 

darkbeaver

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Their land? That land belonged to the Ottomans and then, after we defeated them in the Great War, the British, for 432 years (when it was part of Greater Syria). There has never been a Palestinian nation state.

Sorry about that, mate.

Yes I can the the perfectly normal succession, very sound logic, can't argue, won't argue. And when Israel naturally undergoes the same change you 'll understand perfectly won't you.
 

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So how do you explain converts to the Jewish Faith? You do know they exist too, right?


And how many Jews are converts? A very TINY amount. A poll done last year amongst New York Jews found just 7% of them were converted Jews. And even then, some Jews don't consider converted Jews to be fully Jewish.
 

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And how many Jews are converts? A very TINY amount. A poll done last year amongst New York Jews found just 7% of them were converted Jews. And even then, some Jews don't consider converted Jews to be fully Jewish.

Bingo.

One would immagine that at one point, every one of them would have been a convert as they were first presented with the revelation and had to decide whether to accept it or not.
 

darkbeaver

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There were no Jews prior to 358 BCE

I,ve just now this morning read the figure 622 BCE.

BCE=before christian error
 

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And how many Jews are converts? A very TINY amount. A poll done last year amongst New York Jews found just 7% of them were converted Jews. And even then, some Jews don't consider converted Jews to be fully Jewish.

So you're suggesting religious purity by limiting bloodlines during a period not less than four thousand years or so? At what point, in years, would the generated evolve into full Jews?
 

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So you're suggesting religious purity by limiting bloodlines during a period not less than four thousand years or so?

Yeah. Judaism is an ethnoreligion.

Examples of ethnic groups defined by ancestral religions are the Jews, the Assyrians, the Armenians, the Druze of the Levant, the Copts (a branch of Christians) of Egypt, the Yazidi of northern Iraq, the Zoroastrians of Iran and India, and the Serer of Senegal, the Gambia, and Mauritania.

That's why you can be racist against Jews but not racist against Muslims, because the Jews are a race and the Muslims aren't.
 

darkbeaver

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Yeah. Judaism is an ethnoreligion.

Examples of ethnic groups defined by ancestral religions are the Jews, the Assyrians, the Armenians, the Druze of the Levant, the Copts (a branch of Christians) of Egypt, the Yazidi of northern Iraq, the Zoroastrians of Iran and India, and the Serer of Senegal, the Gambia, and Mauritania.

That's why you can be racist against Jews but not racist against Muslims.

Well I'll have admit that you know more about genes than me. I know theirs a lot of complex formulas and stuff and I'm not abel to follow the science like you are.

They do. Convert and you get a 4 slice extra wide slot toaster for bagels.

You're kidding me, a FREE conversion with a prize! Will the toaster do non Kosher breads?
 

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It is not I, but you who appears to have bought into the discredited notions of race and religion extant during the Nazi horrors of the last great war. Surely, one as you, who patterns himself as a great propagandist in the order of Joe Goebbels, would be more subtle in his slanders.
Pffft on you.
 

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I think this was explained in an old Cathedral Filmstrip they showed us in Sunday School way back in olden days.

I got to turn the projector by the way. :p