Are Canadians really that conservative, or is there more going on?

AnnaG

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Er, Do you think women here are more likely to report a rape than in the US?
I don't know how StatsCan comes up with its figures. No doubt there are false claims, but maybe StatsCan is going by convictions, I don't know.

No way of checking of course, but, just have a hard time believing our incidence would be greater than South Africa, where women are generally treated as garbage.
Good, because I said we are about two thirds of SA's stats.
 

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No there were no pictures, and it was not a how to post, it was just a post about the fact that it's happening and that people need to be aware and stop it, because it's affecting a large part of primarily American society, but injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere.

I will post the links, since I don't want to post all six posts, so you can judge for yourself.

Male Rape. Part 1 « Gang Stalking World

Male Rape. Part 2 « Gang Stalking World

Male Rape. Part 3. « Gang Stalking World

Male Rape. Part 4. « Gang Stalking World

Male Rape. Part 5. « Gang Stalking World

Male Rape. Part 6 « Gang Stalking World

Beyond these walls « Gang Stalking World
 

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I thought the incidence of female rape in South Africa was much higher. Years ago I remember reading about what was happening, and it was mostly Gang Rapes, and I thought it was 1 in 3 or something like that? I don't think Canada is that bad for rapes. I do also know that 1 in 4 men in South Africa surveyed recently admitted to raping. It's a horrible crime, no matter which gender is getting raped.

Rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
South Africa rape statistics

Main article: Sexual violence in South Africa
It is estimated that a woman born in South Africa has a greater chance of being raped than learning how to read. [88] One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been raped in the past year. [89]
South Africa has some of the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world.[90] In a related survey conducted among 1,500 schoolchildren in the Soweto township, a quarter of all the boys interviewed said that 'jackrolling', a term for gang rape, was fun.[89]
 

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:cool:Thanks, Gangbanger;

Personally, when I've walked down the streets of me ol'hometown, I've never felt particularly in danger of being raped.

Since reading your thread, I now carry a .357mag., a .12ga. shotgun, an Uzi, and some vaseline, just in case.

Thanks.8O
 

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See before I did the research jokes like don't drop the soap were funny, but now I am just disgusted that I use to laugh at jokes like that, because now I know what it really means. The stories were horrible. The men were broken, no one should go through that. Plus after natural causes and AIDS, suicide is the leading cause of death in those prison, most are due to rapes, and a lot of the HIV and AIDS in the prisons are due to rapes, so it's not funny.

That's what I hope to impress on people. I hope if they take the time to read the posts, that even if I can't fix this issue, I can raise human awareness about how wrong it is, and how truly unfunny it is. I mean these men have no escape, some of them are there for simple crimes, not real hardcore crimes. Also this is not just in the prisons, this is in the jails, you could be in there just for one night and be a statistic, except most men will never talk about this.

I really hope if people read the post, they will understand just a little bit how horrible it is for these people, and that this happens to some daily, even more than once per day, and it's often by more than one person.

If this was happening to the other gender, I do believe there would be a more caring response, where we as a society understand that this is wrong for women, we must now raise our human awareness and come to understand that this is equally wrong, and just as devastating for men.
 
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Wow....I must say that you're thorough, and organized. I've made it through
parts 1 & 2, but real life say's I'll have to come back at this later on. 8O :lol::lol:
 

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I think it's an error, I don't think Canada has a rape stat anywhere near South Africa, very few places do. These are the stats that I had heard, that one in two women would be raped in that country, that was some time ago, I don't know if things have improved, but I don't really think so. There were lot's of issues ongoing, the Canadian Stats are not going to be anywhere near this.

Rape Survivor Journey - Rape Statistics - South Africa & Worldwide


Rape South Africa
Rape is an occurrence which, according to official statistics occurred approximately 16,000 times annually during the 1980s. By 2006 the official figure for rape was over 55 000 , unofficially, based on the premise put forward by the National Institute of Crime Rehabilitation that only one in twenty rapes are reported, the figure is over 494,000 a year.
This means that on average approximately one thousand three hundred women can be expected to be raped a day in South Africa.
A study by Interpol, the international police agency, has revealed that South Africa leads the world in rapes.
A woman was raped in South Africa every 17 seconds. This did not include the number of child rape victims. It was estimated that one in every two women would be raped.
Between 28 and 30 percent of adolescents reported that their first sexual encounter was forced.
Of South African men who knew somebody who had been raped, 16 percent believed that the rape survivor had enjoyed the experience and had asked for it. According to a recent study police estimated that only one in 36 rape cases was reported and of those only 15 percent culminated in a conviction.
Rape Cases Reported South Africa - from South African Police Services :
2002 - 54 293
2003 - 52 425
2004 - 52 733
2005 - 55 114
2006 - 54 926
 

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Well Nuggler, the name is gangstalking, when I am not drawing attention to the serious crime of male rape, I am drawing attention to the serious issue of Gang Stalking, also called Community Mobbing, Organized Stalking, etc.

You can read up more about that topic here.

Gang Stalking World. Without the players there would be no game. Don't play the game.

Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. A covert investigation is opened and the target is followed around 24/7 by Civilian Spies/Snitches. Overt and covert methods are used as part of the surveillance process.

The Informants can be parts of these community oriented policing programs, but often they are just average citizens. Just like with Cointelpro investigations, everyone in the targets life is contacted and asked to be a part of the ongoing, never ending monitoring (systemic harassment), which is designed to destroy the target over years and leave them with no form of support.

Ebook here.
Gang Stalking World. Without the players there would be no game. Don't play the game.

Or just go to Amazon.com
Amazon.com: Bridging The Gap (9781441448842): Gmb Bailey: Books

This is a topic near and dear to my heart, but the other topic is also important, because the indifference of society means that these men will never be helped, unless human awareness can be raised.
 

Nuggler

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See before I did the research jokes like don't drop the soap were funny, but now I am just disgusted that I use to laugh at jokes like that, because now I know what it really means. The stories were horrible. The men were broken, no one should go through that. Plus after natural causes and AIDS, suicide is the leading cause of death in those prison, most are due to rapes, and a lot of the HIV and AIDS in the prisons are due to rapes, so it's not funny.

That's what I hope to impress on people. I hope if they take the time to read the posts, that even if I can't fix this issue, I can raise human awareness about how wrong it is, and how truly unfunny it is. I mean these men have no escape, some of them are there for simple crimes, not real hardcore crimes. Also this is not just in the prisons, this is in the jails, you could be in their just for one night and be a statistic, except most men will never talk about this.

I really hope if people read the post, they will understand just a little bit how horrible it is for these people, and that this happens to some daily, even more than once per day, and it's often by more than one person.

If this was happening to the other gender, I do believe there would be a more caring response, where we as a society understand that this is wrong for women, we must now raise our human awareness and come to understand that this is equally wrong, and just as devastating for men.


OH, blow it out your ass:oops:.........woops. mebbe not.

the chances of a man getting raped (outside of prison) are very small, unless he lives a dangerous life style. Well, holy fukk' ; anything can happen if you live a dangerous lifestyle.

SO, be a good boy, and don't go to jail. But if you do................Don't pick up the goddam soap. Unless you really really want to. That's the message. If you're in jail, you just may have done something "wrong". Deal with it.

Anyway, no wonder you get chucked from various forums. Just too stupid to survive.

:angry3::jerk:.............too ridiculous. I should introduce you to China. Goddam, you'd be instant buddies.
 

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Hi Ron,

Thanks for reading through the first two posts, part two is kind of boring, but the rest pick up and the section on Rodney Hurin and his suicide are worth reading.

He was just 16 when he went to prison for starting a fire in a dumpster, he was 17 when he was transfered to the adult prison, and within a week they were attacking and raping him, he could not take it, and after many attempts to get help, protective custody, anything he called his mother one last time, wrote a note, which his cellmates passed on to other people, and still they did not do anything to stop this seventeen year old kid, from killing himself.

Also the prison where he was staying, had 1 in 3 being HIV positive. 737 men in that prison were HIV positive, just to give you an idea of what is happening.

After being repeatedly raped, he was afraid he might be HIV positive, and he had no way of stopping it, and rather than live like that day in and out he ended it. I think the public have to understand that young men like this, who are not hard criminals are some of the prime targets, that's what people have to understand.

I know it's a hard subject to deal with. I had some stereotypes that I had to confront when learning about this issue, but it's really something that we all know about and joke about, but the reality is different than most of us imagine.
 

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Hi SirJosephPorter,

I don't mind doing that, but the issue is mixed messages, eg. Some blogs were fine with the topic, as you can see my account at CanadaKA is banned for trying to discuss the topic, then starting a thread to say that I disagreed with my blog postings being removed. On another blog, I had to put a warning label, where the smae issue of female rape to the best of my knowledge does not require a warning label, so at this stage I am like being cautious, but the issue still has to get out there.

I don't think it's that controversial not once it's really understood, it's every bit as horrible as the crime of female rape, and guys should not have to take it in silence, and have it be an issue of jokes. When I read the book no escape, I was deeply saddened by their stories, and how they were blamed, told it was their fault, that they asked for it, and the things they tried to do to cope. I was horrified.

I do want to have this issue discussed, but I now also see that there is a wide spectrum of thought and comfort level when it comes to talking about this subject.

The sad part is I realize also that legislation alone will not change this, societies attitude must change, and we must come to behold it as a serious crime, and realize the devastating impact that it has for men, as well as women, and the extended consequences that this creates in society at large.
 

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Hi Nuggler,

Your sentiment is appreciated, I was not trying to be harsh on you, but I do have to come down harsh on the topic of male rape.

OH, blow it out your ass:oops:.........woops. mebbe not.

Yeah let's go with the mebbe not.

the chances of a man getting raped (outside of prison) are very small, unless he lives a dangerous life style. Well, holy fukk' ; anything can happen if you live a dangerous lifestyle.

Actually the stats say that 10% of rapes every year are men, and the rates could be higher because men often do not report it. So true stats in this area are really unknown. I don't think you have to lead a dangerous lifestyle, guys in sports, guys asking for a lift, things guys don't think about.


SO, be a good boy, and don't go to jail. But if you do................Don't pick up the goddam soap. Unless you really really want to. That's the message. If you're in jail, you just may have done something "wrong". Deal with it.

See even good guys go to jail. War protesters, also people go to jail for DUI, yes it's not that easy, even if there is no soap, men can not always fight off 3 or 4 other men who are out to wish them no good. Even if they fight, there is no guarantee that they can stop themselves being violated. Even people who go to jail for getting into fights do something wrong, cause fighting might not be good, but it does not mean they should be raped.


Anyway, no wonder you get chucked from various forums. Just too stupid to survive.

I am not too stupid to survive. I have done ok so far. CanadaKA was censoring the blog from the front page of the website for some time anyways, I still think QCB too the opportunity to silence me from the controversial topics for good. Oh well such is life. I just want to give some of these guys a fighting chance.

:angry3::jerk:.............too ridiculous. I should introduce you to China. Goddam, you'd be instant buddies.

Well if Canada keeps going the way it is with the Stasi, then in a generation you might not have to introduce me to China. :-|
 

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Perhaps you don't believe that Canada is all that bad. There's a statistic I didn't include when I showed the stats for rape in SA, Canada, etc. and that is the one where only about 6% of sexual assaults are reported. In 2002, stats from SA said there were 117/100,000 people raped ( I think it's climbed drastically since). In Canada it was about 2/3 of that stat at about 77 or 78/100,000. Now add the other 94% that isn't reported and .....
Perhaps SA has a different definition of rape than Canada, I don't know. But I can't see SA having as many date rapes as Canada either.