Antisemitism

Curious Cdn

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I grew up in the Christian tradition but I have never held that anyone else but the Romans executed Christ. The were certainly collaborators among the Jews as there is with any occupied people but the arrest, method of trial and execution of Christ was done entire!y by the Romans. The Church, post Constantine had some very obvious reasons to shift that narrative to the scapegoat Judeans.

What the article fails to mention is that the winners write the history, tell the tale and the Jews have been repeatedly defeated all over Eurasia. No wonder the Israelis fight so ferociously. So would I, if I were in their shoes.
 
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damngrumpy

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The Romans did him in because his message was a threat to the Empire
and only when it became a threat did the Empire intervene. Christ was in
my view a socialist of sorts campaigning against the Right Wing Fascist
Empire of Rome. Romans didn't care what the hell you believed as long
as you didn't try to upset social order and you paid your taxes.
Christians were trouble makers plain and simple
 

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I grew up in the Christian tradition but I have never held that anyone else but the Romans executed Christ. The were certainly collaborators among the Jews as there is with any occupied people but the arrest, method of trial and execution of Christ was done entire!y by the Romans. The Church, post Constantine had some very obvious reasons to shift that narrative to the scapegoat Judeans.

What the article fails to mention is that the winners write the history, tell the tale and the Jews have been repeatedly defeated all over Eurasia. No wonder the Israelis fight so ferociously. So would I, if I were in their shoes.
Cdn is probably right about scholars. But boys who persecuted me, in a Polish orphanage, often accused me of being responsible for killing Christ.

Best New Year wishes to all.

Ludwik
 

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The Romans did him in because his message was a threat to the Empire
and only when it became a threat did the Empire intervene. Christ was in
my view a socialist of sorts campaigning against the Right Wing Fascist
Empire of Rome. Romans didn't care what the hell you believed as long
as you didn't try to upset social order and you paid your taxes.
Christians were trouble makers plain and simple

Jesus was not a socialist.
 

Jinentonix

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Seriously, at this point what's the point of prosecuting a 100 yr old man for something he did in his 20's. I'm not in any way trying to diminish his involvement in a truly evil act but what exactly is the end game here? Gonna take what little is left of an old geezer's freedom away? Garnish his pension? Blockade his Depends?
 

Jinentonix

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It's kind'a funny because in actuality, the term "nazi" is an insult. The NSDAP never called themselves nazis. Nazi is a shortened form of Ignace. While a proper first name, the name got turned into an insult in Germany that basically means "backwoods dullard". The kind of person who would be the village idiot if he lived in a village. It was those opposed to Hitler and his little gang of thugs who named them nazis. Officially, there was no such thing as the "Nazi Party".
That's why the term "neo-nazis" always gave me a giggle; "New village idiots". :ROFLMAO:
 

Colpy

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The Romans did him in because his message was a threat to the Empire
and only when it became a threat did the Empire intervene. Christ was in
my view a socialist of sorts campaigning against the Right Wing Fascist
Empire of Rome. Romans didn't care what the hell you believed as long
as you didn't try to upset social order and you paid your taxes.
Christians were trouble makers plain and simple
I think belabouring Christ with a political agenda is simply wrong.

"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" hardly sounds like a revolutionary battle cry.
 
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1And Jesus replied, Put away the axes, pay those taxes, let's all get normal at the luau.
 

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U.S. students claim not to know Hitler in teacher's viral TikTok video
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Publishing date:Feb 23, 2021 • 2 hours ago • 2 minute read

TikTok user @samuelsleeves posted a video of his middle school students' answering questions about historical facts and figures. PHOTO BY SCREENGRAB /Twitter
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A viral TikTok video shared by a U.S. history teacher of his middle school students’ ignorance about Adolf Hitler has many on social media worried about the future of America.

Teacher and TikTok user @samuelsleeves posted the video, consisting of a series of clips with the camera pointed at himself, showing his reaction to his students’ responses on questions about historical facts and figures.

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The video begins with a student confusing Helen Keller, an American advocate for disability rights, with Adolf Hitler.

“Helen Keller is the Nazi guy,” said one student.

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With eyebrows raised, the teacher pressed the student to elaborate, to which she said, “He’s like a terrorist or something.”

Baffled, the teacher said, “Helen Keller is a Nazi terrorist that is a male. Is that what you’re telling me right now? Are you thinking of Hitler?”

A student then asked, “Who’s Hitler?”

The video then cuts to a clip of a student explaining that Keller was the “blind and deaf person who was fake.”

The teacher looks away from the student, flabbergasted behind his face mask.


The video then cuts to a question about Pearl Harbor.

“Is that a bridge?” one student said.

The video then shows the teacher asking about D-Day, the date Allied forces invaded France’s Normandy during the Second World War.

A student guessed it was a “rapper.”

The video was viewed reportedly more than six million times before it was removed from TikTok, but a Twitter user reposted the video, garnering over two million views and thousands of comments.


Many were shocked by the students’ ignorance, but others on Twitter thought the teacher should also get a failing grade.

“We’re supposed to learn about these historical figure and events in school around this age,” wrote one person. “I don’t know why the teacher is making fun of his students instead of teaching them. How are they supposed to know if no one tells them?”

Another Twitter user wrote: “This is terrifying: history teacher mocks students for not knowing history, the thing he’s supposed to teach, thereby demonstrating he’s failed as a teacher, and yet he still feels confident sharing the video.”

Another pointed out that the student’s comments about Keller were common among Gen Z.

“There is a whole conspiracy theory amongst teens that Helen Keller never existed because they don’t believe anyone could over come (sic) those disabilities,” the user wrote.
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German police commissioner charged with sharing Hitler pictures
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Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.
Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler. PHOTO BY TORONTO SUN FILES /Sun Media
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BERLIN — German prosecutors said on Thursday they had filed sedition and hate speech charges against a police commissioner suspected of sharing pictures of Adolf Hitler and images showing hostility towards Muslims, and possessing illegal weapons and explosives.

The 46-year-old suspect, who served at the police headquarters in the city of Wiesbaden, had shared pictures of the Nazi leader performing the Hitler salute with 30 others, including police officers, on WhatsApp, they said.


German police and security agencies have faced accusations of not doing enough to unearth potentially violent nationalists in their ranks.

This is a sensitive issue in a country where awareness of the World War Two genocide of millions of Jews by the Nazis under Hitler is strong.

The domestic intelligence agency said in a report last year that less than 1% of Germany’s police force, security agencies and military personnel espouse far-right world views and sympathies. The report was part of a wider inquiry into far-right extremism in the civil service.

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“The suspect shared pictures showing Adolf Hitler in uniform with an arm band bearing a swastika and performing the so-called Hitler salute with an outstretched right arm as well as images that convey hostility toward people with dark skin and Muslims,” Frankfurt Senior Public Prosecutor Nadja Niesen said.

She said the suspect had shared the images in late 2018, and officers found firearms, heavy weapons and explosives during a search of his residence a year later. She did not say why charges against him were being filed only now or how the suspect had pleaded.

The suspect’s brother, who was also a police commissioner and left the force voluntarily, is due to go on trial in April on charges of sharing illegal symbols, possessing illegal weapons and sharing secret police information with civilians, the prosecutor said.

A third police commissioner, who has been relieved of his duties, has been charged with sharing sensitive information from the police computer systems with civilians.