Anti-Americanism has blinded the left to the evils of militant Islam

[Tonington]

Or a quick synopsis followed by the link, and a jazzy title.

 

[talloola]

If the "middle of the road" people in the u.s. want everyone to be able to define their political
views, they need a "third party", as, they cannot escape being labelled either one thing or another,
(when they are not), if they don't have "that" moderate, middle" party to join.

And, within each party, the extremists "prevail" pushing all the moderate (sensible) people into
the background, and the media "of course" only pay attention to the "name calling" and "argueing"
which seems to fuel their programs, so "again" the real people, sensible people, moderate people,
who could run the u.s. in a most efficient manner, are again shuffled into the background, because
they are not controvesial enough, or colorful enough to make a tv program "watchable".
And, then, of course, there are all the "sheep'", sitting at home watching tv, who are too lazy to
"learn" anything, so they follow the "front' runners, or not, and those are the only ones they see. At
least, with a third party, "even" the sheep would get to see and hear them, from time to time.

 

[L Gilbert]

lol Yeah. There's people that'll vote for so-and-so because they're charismatic. I knew a Phillipine Canadian fella who didn't vote for Harper cuz he "looks funny", et these people are so polarized and isnsitent about their politics. Comical.

 

[L Gilbert]

I think it's more fun being a centrist than being fickle. The lefties think I'm a Conservative and the righties think I'm a Dipper. Funny.

 

[selfactivated]

If the "middle of the road" people in the u.s. want everyone to be able to define their political
views, they need a "third party", as, they cannot escape being labelled either one thing or another,
(when they are not), if they don't have "that" moderate, middle" party to join.

And, within each party, the extremists "prevail" pushing all the moderate (sensible) people into
the background, and the media "of course" only pay attention to the "name calling" and "argueing"
which seems to fuel their programs, so "again" the real people, sensible people, moderate people,
who could run the u.s. in a most efficient manner, are again shuffled into the background, because
they are not controvesial enough, or colorful enough to make a tv program "watchable".
And, then, of course, there are all the "sheep'", sitting at home watching tv, who are too lazy to
"learn" anything, so they follow the "front' runners, or not, and those are the only ones they see. At
least, with a third party, "even" the sheep would get to see and hear them, from time to time.

I think they tried that with the green party and it ended up getting Bush elected because it took away votes from the democrats.

 

[darkbeaver]

That's why Chomsky and I buy stocks in the weapons industry.:wave:

Thanks for the tip ITN I'll get in on that myself first thing Monday, seems like it's hot stuff sure to go through the roof, how much will sixfifty get me.:wave:

 

[talloola]

I think they tried that with the green party and it ended up getting Bush elected because it took away votes from the democrats

Well, perhaps they should think of a party that makes the "people" perk up a little more, I respect
the green party, but they are never going to be a third, "equal" party, but the green, which all the
parties should be embracing, should be absorbed into a "real" moderate political party, not just
an environmental movement, that doesn't bring enough attention, from enough people.
Ralph Nadar (Nader)?, is a good guy, but he is too far left, so he surely doesn't fit the mold of a
third, moderate party.
There are many really good "moderate" politicians, and if they somehow could fit together, and
be part of a third party, it would prove to be "just" what the doctor ordered for the u.s., but I can
see that it won't happen, it will be "business as usual", cause noone wants to wade into the unknown,
and do what it really takes, over a long period of time, to succeed with that theory.

The right have all those "evangelical religious fakes", who spout that they have the high moral
ground, and we all know that their full of sh--, and are passing buckets of money to the republican
party to set "their" agenda. But there are enough of them, that Carl Rove succeeded in making sure
millions of them voted last time, and "hence", George Bush won.

Oh well, maybe he u.s. people will think long and hard next election, as they even voted him in
a second time, which we all thought was "unbelievable." But, in some ways, maybe it was better,
because as the war got worse and worse, it is still the "guy" who started it, who has to absorb the
riducule and blame now, and if the dems. had of won last time, they now, would be getting the
blame for a war that they didn't start.

 

[gopher]

Iraq's fascist regime was engineered and put into place by America.

Bingo!

 

[gopher]

... and by the way, financed by Republicans

 

[gopher]

The disgrace of the anti-war movement


Conveniently, the critics forgot that a large portion of the anti war movement is and has ALWAYS been conservative. See my numerous posts from the following sources:

antiwar.com
cato institute
john birch society
lew rockwell
lyndon larouche
pat buchanan
ron paul


No libs there.

 

[vinod1975]

I hate war

 

[gopher]

hate war?

 

[vinod1975]

Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate war........... that was the lovely pic , May Jesus shower his love and make this world as one place to live , no war - hate war....:angel8:

 

[talloola]

Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate war........... that was the lovely pic , May Jesus shower his love and make this world as one place to live , no war - hate war....:angel8:


If you were in charge of a "country", and you were militarily attacked, and many of your citizens were
killed and injured, what would your response be -
I'm not being sarcastic, i'm serious
AS, WE ALL HATE WAR, BUT ?
When it happens, we have to make that decision.

 

[vinod1975]

True , but this question can be answered if I will be in that position ,

Again with all due respect , I am always nice to every one.

 

[darkbeaver]

hate war?

That is not a dove it's an example of the now extinct passenger pigeon.:angel8:

 

[jimmoyer]

Yabba dabba dooo !!!

The one topic that energizes the world over !!!

No other topic energizes like this one.

This oughta bring on all those rationales for why this is so.

Let's hear them all again..

 

[darkbeaver]

Yabba dabba dooo !!!

The one topic that energizes the world over !!!

No other topic energizes like this one.

This oughta bring on all those rationales for why this is so.

Let's hear them all again..

Good Idea Jim, I hope that's not to presumptuous of me. I would think it has to do with the considerable involvement of the country in question with the day to day maintenance of the planet, people naturally have an interest in weighty matters of this sort. I hope that's added to the debate in a civilized manner.:wave:

 

[L Gilbert]

Yabba dabba dooo !!!

The one topic that energizes the world over !!!

No other topic energizes like this one.

This oughta bring on all those rationales for why this is so.

Let's hear them all again..

Yeah, polarization does seem to energize people fersher. I just get disg usted with it. If polarized people would both point their heads in the same direction and cooperate, they'd get a helluva lot farther than they would by butting heads with each other. Heads don't get as sore that way either.

 

[gopher]

``passenger pigeon``

correction -- the passenger pigeon was not white:

besides, the Bird of Peace there has an olive branch!