Perhaps we should give them a reason to care instead of just forcing them to sing songs.
Anthem ban 'political correctness run wild': Conservative MP
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Perhaps we should give them a reason to care instead of just forcing them to sing songs.
Discipline and regimen are old ideas tied to the industrial era. We are past that. You should read Tofler's "Third Wave" if you haven't.
Well when I was a kid, I hated/didn't care about this country, I hated/didn't care about the flag, I hated/didn't care about pretty much everything about it..... why? I can't remember, but I did.....
Now a days, I do have some care for this nation, or else I wouldn't be bitching about our government so much
I wouldn't worry too much about if they care or not about the above.... if they don't fully understand it all, if they haven't had the chance to be educated in all of our history (Which takes a few years beyond the basics in elementary) how can you expect them to care about what they may not fully understand?
That comes through education..... education comes through school..... School means time.... which means until all that is done, they don't have much say.
Well when I was a kid, I hated/didn't care about this country, I hated/didn't care about the flag, I hated/didn't care about pretty much everything about it..... why? I can't remember, but I did.....
Now a days, I do have some care for this nation, or else I wouldn't be bitching about our government so much
I wouldn't worry too much about if they care or not about the above.... if they don't fully understand it all, if they haven't had the chance to be educated in all of our history (Which takes a few years beyond the basics in elementary) how can you expect them to care about what they may not fully understand?
Yes, I do expect them to understand, we weren't all like you as kids.
Of course they learn and learn and learn, that is the way life is, but
it is the responsibility of others to show that this country is a good
part of the worlld to live in, and be a citizen of.
It doesn't take much to do that, and it doesn't take much time to notice
if your kids are indifferent to 'where' they live, and make it known that it
is important to be aware and understand, and look around you in life, even
as children, and teenagers. Of course all young people aren't the same, but
they all have memories and will take notice of the people around them.
No one ever has cram anything down their throats, that is an exageration,
but we have to show them by example.
Singing the anthem each day, is not cramming anything into anyone, and
if people think it is, they just don't get it.
I am just answering the question, nothing more, I don't have a flag outside
my house, I don't drive around with a flag on my car, I am just a person, who
was born here on the west coast, has had the priviledge of a good and free
life, could choose whatever I wanted to be in life, (within reason $$), so
it is very little to ask anyone to notice how important that is.
We have so much here, that the complainers have to dig deep to keep complaining, but they will, and the whining very often is over such trivia.
Well I'm sorry we all can't be like you.
Well most kids have more concerns over a nations history when they're playing with their ninja turtle action figures.
Like being taught religion, it's simply boring... if you can make it entertaining and exciting, you might have a profitable job. If it's boring, the kids arn't going to pay much attention.
There are some good things here, and there are things I appreciate... but that doesn't mean it's perfect and I have no right to strive for this place to be better then it currently is.
Everything can always be better in one fashion or another.
Don't forget, I support having the anthem played every morning.... mainly because I had to do it, everybody else should too.
But when it comes to teaching them about being proud to be Canadian, do you seriously think just standing up for a couple of minutes a day while the song plays is going to do that? I agree, more may need to be done..... but at the same time, I feel that you can't always push views on how great this place is on them and allow them to make their own decisions along the way.
If they feel something is wrong or there's something they don't like, listen to them and answer their questions if they have any...... but to connect to what I said before, they gotta suck up the anthem each day.
Why? Do you collect royalties? Was there something about the question that bothered you ... or another of your assumptions?
You mean like the Saudi Anthem?
Hasten to glory and supremacy, Glorify the Creator of the heavens! And raise the green flag Carrying the emblem of Light, Repeating: Allah is the greatest, O my country! My country, Live as the glory of Muslims! Long live the King for the flag and the country!
The Syran Anthem talks of its master race.
Defenders of the realm, Peace on you; Our proud spirits will Not be subdued. The abode of Arabism, A hallowed sanctuary; The seat of the stars, An inviolable preserve. Most anthems are like that.
Quoting Cannuck Perhaps we should give them a reason to care instead of just forcing them to sing songs.
No it doesn't. It comes through building a country, a city, a province that they could and would care about and want to be a part of. The Maritimes has been educating people only to see them leave. Not much pride in the community if you ask me....not much reason to care.
No it doesn't. It comes through building a country, a city, a province that they could and would care about and want to be a part of. The Maritimes has been educating people only to see them leave. Not much pride in the community if you ask me....not much reason to care.
Hey, way to go Zz-So now you realize that Israel is exactly the same as those Arab monsters.
As long as the Jewish spirit is yearning deep in the heart,
With eyes turned toward the East, looking toward Zion,
Then our hope - the two-thousand-year-old hope - will not be lost:
To be a free people in our land,
The land of Zion and Jerusalem. Yet 1/3 of the young Israelis that are expected to sing this are Palestinian Arabs,Christians but not Jews.
As long as the Jewish spirit is yearning deep in the heart,
With eyes turned toward the East, looking toward Zion,
Then our hope - the two-thousand-year-old hope - will not be lost:
To be a free people in our land,
The land of Zion and Jerusalem. Yet 1/3 of the young Israelis that are expected to sing this are Palestinian Arabs,Christians but not Jews.
In certain remote areas of Nunavet (..and I mean REALLY remote), they celebrate St. Spade Fest with beer and pizza
Well I'm sorry we all can't be like you.
Well most kids have more concerns over a nations history when they're playing with their ninja turtle action figures.
They don't have to know the nations history, they just have to know and
appreciate that they have a good life in this country, simple to start with,
and build from there.
Of course, before you remind me, not everyone has a good life, but for those
who don't, at least there are avenues to work through to remedy that problem,
whereas some countries have nothing, but starvation at the end of the road.
Like being taught religion, it's simply boring... if you can make it entertaining and exciting, you might have a profitable job. If it's boring, the kids arn't going to pay much attention.
Yes, religion can be very boring for children, it would be more constructive to
teach factual things about the world around us.
There are some good things here, and there are things I appreciate... but that doesn't mean it's perfect and I have no right to strive for this place to be better then it currently is.
I'm not suggesting anything is perfect, and we all should strive for a better
place, that is how canada arrived at this point, because people strived for
a better place, and will continue to do so, but without freedom, that is
very difficult.
Everything can always be better in one fashion or another.
Don't forget, I support having the anthem played every morning.... mainly because I had to do it, everybody else should too.
No kidding, what kind of a chore is that, to stand up for one minute and sing
or not sing the national anthem, give me a break.
But when it comes to teaching them about being proud to be Canadian, do you seriously think just standing up for a couple of minutes a day while the song plays is going to do that? I agree, more may need to be done..... but at the same time, I feel that you can't always push views on how great this place is on them and allow them to make their own decisions along the way.
That isn't a very intelliglent statement, just standing there while the song is
playing? That song gives us a minute to say 'thank you' for what we have and
to those who worked in the past to deliver this good life to us.
Of course the song isn't going to do anything to make our lives better, but it
is a identification for us to our country, then, lets get on with the day, and
do something to make this a better place, even if it is a tiny tiny thing, doesn't
matter.
If they feel something is wrong or there's something they don't like, listen to them and answer their questions if they have any...... but to connect to what I said before, they gotta suck up the anthem each day
Awe, poor baby, you sound like some of those spoiled rotton children, who
want want want from their country, and then have to work so hard to sing
that sicko anthem, how dare anyone ask them to do that, they are above
doing that, that's for sucks.
Maybe you just have a rotton voice.
And how do they learn to understand these things and know if they want to be a part of it?
Education
Don't be so daft.... The Maritimes, Nova Scotia in paticular has more colleges and universities then anywhere else in Canada, thus the term "Nova Scotia - Canada's Education Province".... but the reason why people are leaving is because all the jobs are out west and very little support for new businesses and existing ones. There are more people being pumped out of the colleges and universities then there are jobs.... which is why people head out west because there's nothing here.
Get a clue.
Exactly!! Not by singing songs. You are learning Grasshopper!
Exactly!! Not much to sing about is there? If folks down there spent their time trying to improve things instead of whining about a song, they may actually get something done.
It's very simple grasshopper. The learn to understand these things (a province that they could and would care about) through education however these things (a province that they could and would care about) are not created by education. They (a province that they could and would care about) are created by actually building or developing it, not by singing songs or by brainwashing kids.
Wooo, I sense tension. I was tense this morning. I woke up to the realization that once again today is not my birthday. Tomorrow won't be either! Or, the day after. What is there to look forward to but a bowl of diamond shreddies and skiing later in the day? So, for the time being, I played the Peruvian national anthem (I like Peru; their flag is almost like ours and they have Incas) and went back to bed.
YouTube - Anthem Peru
YouTube - Anthem Peru
Standing for O canada
You live in Canada ..Your at a hockey game..in school ..or anywhere in public that is playing the anthem.You stand and /or sing "oh Canada"...With everyone else....It's not a yellow/blue or black / white thing...It is what we ,and all do,out of respect for this great country...Period
You live in Canada ..Your at a hockey game..in school ..or anywhere in public that is playing the anthem.You stand and /or sing "oh Canada"...With everyone else....It's not a yellow/blue or black / white thing...It is what we ,and all do,out of respect for this great country...Period