Another Hypocrite Bites Dust!
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None of us have a clue how he tones down or not in his private life, we just
notice the 'jet', and 'limos' etc., maybe he has done many things at his homes
to help. Assumptions shouldn't be made about him just because he is a democrat
and others are republicans, and facts are not known.
So what exactly would have have him do, sell any houses he owns, and downsize
to 'what exactly', what square footage do you suggest. There are lots of houses
here in the comox valley that are huge, guess all of those people are bad,
and should reduce their square footage, well someone would buy those houses
and replace the owners, just as people will buy his houses and replace him,
then you will still talk about him, and not the new tenants, give us a break.
Step back and realize how silly that sounds.
Some of the poorest people are the worst offenders, and some of the richest
do the most good, it's all over the map, it's all of US.
I agree with you TAlloola, because I don't know what he does or doesn't do. Maybe he keeps his thermostat at 50F and keeps only one light at a time burning. What I've objected to is S.J. saying he doesn't have to because he's in a different class and if he's not exceeding the average of his class, it's exceptible. THAT IS A CROCK OF B.S.
He doesn't tone it down!
We notice that and a whole bunch more!
Key word...homes...plural.
Two homes is pretty wasteful for one who preaches conservation. He's a hypocrite.
No assumptions...we have the facts.
Do as he says, not as he does. Hypocrite
He should downsize or stop telling everyone else how to live.
Not bad but if they are complaining about GW and doing noting then they are hypocrites.
Not silly at all if they believe that we are in a planetary emergency and change is neccessary to save the earth from impending doom.
Some of the poorest people are the worst offenders? I can't see that as logical. What can one who lives in poverty POSSIBLY do to the environment that is worse than Al Gore? Litter?
All we know is that Gore does not practice what he preaches. These clean energy bills are only going to hurt those who cannot afford to pay the premium prices they will cost. Then again did the politicians really ever care for the public.
I'm picking on him because he is a hypocrite. So is Sanford. One is a Republican and one is a Democrat. There goes your argument out the window.
The only person I know that is more hypocritical than these two is Joey....and btw, the only people that seem to want to defend Gore's lavish lifestyle (and yes, limos and jets are lavish) and blatant hypocrisy are those who are of the same political persuasion. Talloola, have you met the kettle?
"We don’t know that he is involved in gratuitous and conspicuous consumption of energy, we have only the word of the far right for it.
He says we need to reduce our energy consumption, on that he is spot on. But what evidence do you have that he is involved in gratuitous and conspicuous consumption of energy, except that the far right websites say so.
Nobody has been able to answer the question I posed, how does his carbon footprint compare with others of his economic class? Until we know the answer to that, we don’t know if he is guilty of hypocrisy."
As the old saying goes: "there is none so blind as he who WILL NOT see."
ALL media reported about Gore's houses. All did about the fact that he had not taken a commercial flight in decades. All - even the fountain of all truth, according to SirJosephPorter, CNN, reported about Gore's lavish life style.
Only SirJosephPorter lives in denial.
More ironic is the fact that more and more scientists agree that the Earth is in an actual COOLING cycle. Shouldn't MORE CO2 in the atmosphere help slow the process of turning Earth into another Ice Age?
Those scientists who opine that global warming is bogus express their opinons in scientific papers, not just right wing blogs. Even on CNN, SirJosephPorter.
He says we need to reduce our energy consumption, on that he is spot on. But what evidence do you have that he is involved in gratuitous and conspicuous consumption of energy, except that the far right websites say so.
Nobody has been able to answer the question I posed, how does his carbon footprint compare with others of his economic class? Until we know the answer to that, we don’t know if he is guilty of hypocrisy."
As the old saying goes: "there is none so blind as he who WILL NOT see."
ALL media reported about Gore's houses. All did about the fact that he had not taken a commercial flight in decades. All - even the fountain of all truth, according to SirJosephPorter, CNN, reported about Gore's lavish life style.
Only SirJosephPorter lives in denial.
More ironic is the fact that more and more scientists agree that the Earth is in an actual COOLING cycle. Shouldn't MORE CO2 in the atmosphere help slow the process of turning Earth into another Ice Age?
Those scientists who opine that global warming is bogus express their opinons in scientific papers, not just right wing blogs. Even on CNN, SirJosephPorter.
limos and jets are used by thousands, I find this funny. We should listen to
everyone who is in favour of improving our earth, doesn't matter what they
drive. People are picked up by limos all the time, weddings, politics, grads,
all sorts of special events. so. I'm sure gore has learned hundreds of things
he didn't know before he became an avid supporter of improving the environment and passing the message on to others, so now he is much more informed than he ever has been as well, and I'm sure he is passing that on to his family. That is the only way things will improve, going from generation to generation, it is
the earth I am concerned about, and the more who talke about it, the better,
doesn't matter who they are. I hope he keeps on, and I hope
many others do the same.
Peope can find the scientists who will give them the answers they want, then
send a report of 'what scientists say', means nothing.
Each side can do the same.
Republican Sex Scandals Dwarf Those of Democrats - Salem-News.Com
''Republican Sex Scandals Dwarf Those of Democrats''
The sexual antics of President Bill Clinton have been a dangerous tool in the Republican campaign arsenal, used to the fullest possible extent, but what have they been up to all these years?
(SALEM, Ore.) - "He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones." It seems that old adage may be lost on the confused mass that we call modern society. The Grand Old Party, once known for controversial abolitionists, has become the moral party of today, or so their elected leaders will tell you.
As we evolve as a nation, too many people seem to be clinging to ideologies that make little sense, fighting against a woman's right to abortion while demanding that schools not teach children sex education or instruct them in the deadly virus, AIDS. It creates a vicious circle when we fight ourselves, and deny education to those who need it most.
Our nation spent more tax money conducting Ken Starr's investigation of President Bill Clinton's affair with intern Monica Lewinsky, than they did in the investigation of the September 11th 2001 attacks on the United States. Many Americans fail to see the logic behind this.
Now Oregon's Governor stands at risk, as a right wing radio pundit named Lars Larson levels an accusation against Kulongoski that could mean he could not be a lawyer in Oregon again. Larson says that Kulongoski had the goods on Goldschmidt years ago. Sources are reporting that he could have known about what has become known as the Goldschmidt scandal, as early as 1994.
Kulongoski walked angrily out of a press conference Tuesday, after a TV reporter asked him about the former governor's involvement with the teenage babysitter.
Perhaps the Governor is guilty of having known something he didn't tell. He stated that he is not, but if he is, he may lose his right to have a license to practice law. That would be a real burn if you were Ted Kulongoski, and quite a feather in the cap of Lars Larson, no doubt about it.
As Lars Larson is totally political in his pursuits and ambitions, we thought it would be interesting to offer perspective by determining just how many Republican lawmakers and officials have endured similar scrutiny in recent years for sexual perversions, extramarital affairs, etc. It is a hard number to pinpoint, it just depends on the number of years you account for.
As a subject, it was important enough to see an impeachment of former President Bill Clinton, so fair seems fair.
Then we ran into a problem with the idea of naming these scandals and their Republican perpetrators; there are so many they would hardly fit on the page. Using data from "Moral Values," these citations are otherwise attributed to the original agencies. Here is a partial list of names of serious problems related to GOP movers and shakers.
Randal David Ankeney is the Republican activist who was arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He was charged with six counts related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. Ankeny has also been accused of sexually assaulting another girl. Source: Denver ABC Article
Jim Bakker is the infamous televangelist who worked with Pat Robertson at Robertson's Christian Broadcasting network. Sources at the time, and then later Jim himself, confirmed that he committed adultery with Jessica Hahn, and then used charitable donations to pay her hush money. Fellow televangelists have stated in the past that they believe he's gay. Bakker was indicted on 23 federal charges of fraud, tax evasion, and racketeering.
Bob Barr is the Republican Congressman from Georgia who sponsored the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act, saying "The flames of hedonism, the flames of narcissism, the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundation of our society, the family unit." He was married three times, and paid for his second wife's abortion (she also suspected he was cheating on her). he failed to pay child support to the children of his first two wives and while married to his third and present wife and was photographed licking whipped cream off of strippers at his inaugural party.
Parker J. Bena was a Republican activist and a key player in the campaign to elect George W. Bush as President. Bena was charged and later pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography and lying to the FBI. Bena reportedly told the feds that he had received an unsolicited e-mail containing pictures of children (some as young as three years old) performing various sexual acts, but agents learned that he had in fact voluntarily entered a number of child pornography websites and downloaded the images himself. This is said to have involved acts with children as young as 3 years old, on his home computer. Parker J. Bena was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Source: DemocracyUnderground.com
Louis Beres is a past chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. Three of his family members accuse him of molesting them as children, when they were pre-teens. In an Editor and Publisher article, in August 2006, Beres confessed to the accusations facing him. The Portland Mercury
John Bolton, President George W. Bush's highly contested appointee ambassador to United Nations is suspected of forcing his former wife to be involved in unsavory group sex acts. Corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton's first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department despite inquires posed by Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt concerning the allegations. Mr. Flynt has obtained information from numerous sources that Mr. Bolton participated in paid visits to Plato's Retreat, the popular swingers club that operated in New York City in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
Jim Bunn Congressman of Oregon: Many attribute the success Jim Bunn experienced in great part to support from the Christian Coalition. Congressman Jim Bunn won his congressional seat, and then sources say that he immediately ditched his wife, the mother of his five children, and married a staffer. Jim Bunn is said to have put his new wife on the state payroll for the unheard-of salary of $97,500, thereby becoming one of the biggest waste and spend conservatives from the state of Oregon. Source: Conservative Babylon
President of the United States George W. Bush, was accused in a criminal complaint and lawsuit of raping Margie Schoedinger, who later died in a questionable case of suicide. Bush was also accused by Tammy Phillips, a former stripper, who was quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000 saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999. Another serious question involves statements from the wife of Red Blount, whom Bush campaigned for, while possibly A.W.O.L from the Air National Guard at age 26. She stated that he was "all over their 14 year old daughter." Multiple Sources
Neil Bush, brother or G. W. Bush, in a March 2003 divorce deposition, admitted repeatedly having sex with strange women who just showed up at his room while on an Asian business trip. Overshadowing the sex scandal at the time was a business scandal. Neal Bush keeps a low profile and is not seen in public very often. He also has questionable ties to the security of the World Trade Towers in the September 11th 2001 attacks on the United States. Source: Washington Post article
Ken Calvert, Congressman (R-California), has been called the champion of the Christian Coalition and its "family values." But in reality, Ken Calvert was sued as an alimony "deadbeat dad" by his ex-wife who said, "We can't forgive what occurred between the President and Lewinsky." In 1993, Calvert was caught by police officers receiving oral sex from a prostitute. He attempted to flee the scene but apparently couldn't move fast enough to get away from police, and was arrested.
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Helen Chenoweth, Congresswoman (R-Id.). In 1995, Chenoweth had denied having an affair when asked about it by The Spokane Spokesman-Review. In 1998 she called (in a campaign ad) for Bill Clinton's resignation saying, "I believe that personal conduct and integrity do matter". Days later she admitted to a six-year adulterous affair with a married associate, but now she claims a pardon from a higher authority: "I've asked for God's forgiveness, and I've received it," she revealed.
Mark Foley, Republican Representative, Florida Sixteenth Congressional District. Resigned after trying to solicit sex from male congressional pages via an instant messenger program. The conversations included his asking a sixteen-year-old "stud" whether his penis was erect and requesting that he take out and measure his penis. The cover-up involved Republican House Majority Leader John Boehner, Ohio Eighth Congressional District and Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Illinois Fourteenth District.
Newt Gingrich, well established crusader against legislation that assists women and the poor, has married three times while spouting Christian values the entire time. Newt Gingrich's campaign worker Anne Manning, admitted that she gave Newt oral sex while he was still married to his first wife, essentially placing Newt in the exact same position President Clinton had to endure when Gingrich and his cronies maintained their pressure over the Lewinski incident. Gingrish informed one wife he was filing for divorce while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer treatments. Salon article
Philip Giordano, the former Republican mayor of Waterbury, Connecticut was sentenced by a state court to serve 37 years for forcing two little girls to perform acts of oral sex on him in his Waterbury City Hall office. While investigating municipal corruption, the FBI discovered phone records and pictures of Giordano with a prostitute named Guitana Jones, as well as with her 10-year-old niece and her 8-year-old daughter. 37-years is a very long prison sentence, many said at the time that it still wasn't enough. Source: NBC Article/Newsday Article
Rudy Giuliani, New York Mayor and Republican Presidential Candidate, is reported as having had an adulterous affair that failed to stay out of the public light. Groups also cite Giuliani for pocketing an $80,000 fee for speaking at a charity benefit for tsunami aid which raised only $60,000 for the victims themselves. Critics of Giuliani say there will be more revelations about his character and past as his presidential aspirations gain momentum.
Matthew Glavin, president and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, was a big player in the Clinton Impeachment proceedings, and he has spearheaded a good number of anti-homosexual jihads. He has been arrested multiple times for public indecency, sources report, one time it was for fondling the crotch of the police officer who was arresting him at a national park. Opponents say his actions were treated "with kid gloves" and therefore inadequate.
Neal Horsley is a political figure of the far right, and the author of a website devoted to his advocacy of militant pro-life, secessionist, and anti-gay views. He has called for the arrest of all homosexuals. He admitted on the Fox News Radio's The Alan Colmes Show, that he's had sex with mules. He put photographs on his Web site of naked men engaging in homosexual acts and a nude woman engaging in bestiality amid shots of grotesquely maimed fetuses. Drug dealer convicted of possession of hashish with intent to sell. He calls for "the establishment of a new government, one that can obey God's plan for government."
Lewis "Scooter" Libby is the former Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney who was convicted but recently exempted from having to serve his sentence by the President. In 1996, "Scooter" Libby published a novel containing bizarre sexual content, including bestiality and pedophilia. Other high level White House officials were said to have been involved in the book that Libby published.
Rush Limbaugh is the infamous talk show pundit and advocate of moral values who has been divorced three times. A staunch anti-drug crusader, Limbaugh is in reality, a 30-pill a day drug addict. He also takes questionable trips to locations where many western men travel to buy sex under shady circumstances. It was a return from one of those possibly sordid journeys when one of his drug arrests occurred. Limbaugh was returning from the Dominican Republic. The Rush Limbaugh sex tourism story could seriously lead to his downfall if any of the allegations were founded. "Turnabout is most certainly fair play," is how one news agency worded it. Then there is the report of Rush’s use of Viagra while he was single. Sources: correntewire.com/The Smoking Gun.com
Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee’s Marriage Protection act. He was divorced in April 2005 because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that “Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.”
Joseph M. McDade, 75, was issued a summons on a charge of exposure of his sexual organs, a misdemeanor that carries up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. The longtime Pennsylvania Republican congressman who served for 36 years in the House and now works for a Washington lobbying firm, has been accused of exposing his private parts to two women at a beach resort on Sanibel Island. Source: DKOS diary
Bill O'Reilly is the highly controversial right-wing conservative talk show host on Fox News known for the "O'Reilly factor" and the "no spin zone." O'Reilly is highly contested over his ability to polarize people along political lines. Bill O'Reilly has been sued for sexual harassment by his producer. The female Fox News producer named Andrea Mackris filed a lawsuit claiming that he subjected her to repeated instances of sexual harassment and spoke often, and explicitly, to her about phone sex, vibrators, threesomes, masturbation, the loss of his virginity, and sexual fantasies. He settled with the producer for an undisclosed amount of money.
Bob Packwood, Senator (R-Ore.) resigned in 1995 under a threat of public senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual harassment. A pro-choice Republican who often rallied for women's rights, Packwood let down generations of supporters, and is a good example of the complexity of human nature, since he supported legislation to protect women’s rights during his 25 years in office while simultaneously making unwanted sexual advances toward many different women. In the end, 19 women testified to outrageous behavior which was mostly carried out when Packwood was drunk. The most damaging was the charge of a former staff woman who was only 17 years old at the time. Packwood might still have survived the challenge had he responded with his former talent for compromise, but he was defiant and confrontational, trying to bully his way through the situation and alienating even his friends, it is reported.
George Roche III, carried on a 19 year affair with his son's wife, while serving as president of Hillsdale College, which "emphasizes the importance of the common moral truths that bind all Americans, while recognizing the importance of religion for the maintenance of a free society." The scandal broke out in 1999 when the wife of George Roche IV, Lissa Jackson Roche, claimed to have had an affair spanning 19 years with her husband's father. Shortly after, she was found dead in the college's arboretum with a handgun, and the death was ruled a suicide. Following his resignation in November 1999, Roche left public life and moved to Colorado.
Joe Scarborough, former Republican Congressman, is currently a conservative talk show host. He resigned his congressional seat abruptly to spend more time with his family, amidst allegations of an affair. His intern, Lori Klausutis, was soon after found dead in his office. The medical examiner, who had his license revoked in Missouri for falsifying information in an autopsy report, and suspended in Florida for six years, ruled the case an accident, after giving conflicting information about her injuries. He said he lied about them because "The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury."
Ed Schrock was a two-term Republican Congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Co-sponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids, he withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting gay sex were circulated. The Virginia Pilot reported in October 2000 that Schrock favored ending the Clinton administration's "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays in the military, BlogActive noted. "He supports asking enlistees whether they have had homosexual experiences in an effort to try to keep gays from serving. 'You're in the showers with them, you're in the bunk room with them, you're in staterooms with them,' Schrock said."
Dr. Laura Schlessinger, right wing conservative radio host, is known for promoting family values. She is estranged from her mother, opposes birth control, has had her tubes tied. She espouses saving oneself for marriage, and admits to having had sex before she was married. She opposes adultery, but has committed adultery while she was married, and has slept with a married man. She opposes divorce, but she is divorced and remarried, and has posed for nude photos which are available online.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, the hit Hollywood movie actor turned politician and California Republican governor, has admitted during a Oui interview, having sex with a 16-year old when he was 28. Today men who commit similar acts in Oregon are branded sex offenders and placed in correctional facilities. At the time of the Oui story, Schwarzenegger, then 29, was appearing in "Pumping Iron," a documentary on the bodybuilding circuit. In the Q&A with Manso from Oui Magazine, today's California Governor spoke about his sex life then, his drug usage, and his belief that men "shouldn't feel like fags just because they want to have nice-looking bodies." Source: Oui
Jean Schmidt is a Republican legislator from Ohio. Though not herself implicated, she employed a campaign manager named Joe Brauns in her 2005 election who once wrote an article condemning gay men for running sex ad profiles, and who was then accused of running his own sex profile on Collarme, an S&M sex site. The profile called for "submissives" to wear only a collar and handcuffs and to have hot wax dripped on them. Source: DKOS Diary
Jimmy Swaggart, televangelist, exposed in 1986 fellow Assemblies of God minister Marvin Gorman, who was having an affair with one of his parishioners. The following year, Swaggart then exposed Jim Bakker's sexual indiscretions and soon after appeared on the Larry King Show stating that Bakker was a "cancer in the body of Christ." As a retaliatory move, Marvin Gorman hired a private-detective to follow Swaggart. During his investigation, the detective found Swaggart in a Jefferson Parish, Louisiana motel on Airline Highway with prostitute Debra Murphree and took pictures as proof of the tryst.Source: Wikipedia
Randall Terry, Right to Life activist, founder of Operation Rescue, was involved in the Terri Schiavo protests. He was once imprisoned for sending former President Bill Clinton an aborted fetus. His son Jamiel is gay; his daughter Tila had sex outside of marriage, became pregnant, had a miscarriage - she is no longer welcome in his home; his daughter Ebony had 2 children outside of wedlock and became Muslim. He has campaigned against infidelity and birth control, gays and unwed mothers. Terry himself was censured by his church after committing adultery.
Strom Thurmond was an outspoken southern republican senator and racist. According to information revealed toward the end of his life, he had as a younger man raped and impregnanted a 15-year old African American maid. Throughout his adult life, as a politician and U.S. Senator, Thurmond quietly contributed to the family of the young African-American mother of his child. In contrast to, say, George "I Was Wrong" Wallace, Thurmond had always been an ornery redemption project. He did not repent. Even so, his illegitimate daughter further complicated the moral picture. Source: slate.com/BBC Article
Jim West, Spokane Mayor, supported a bill which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. He voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. He proposed that “any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person” among teens be criminalized. He ended up having a sexual affair with an 18-year old boy. Source: Spokesman review
Larry Flynt taking John Bolton to task? Political leaders funded by the Christian Coalition watching their lives and political ambitions end in disgrace? I know people won't change their views over this article, that would be too much to expect, but I have a feeling some of this information, much of which is not discussed in many circles, is important to share. Major hangups over sex do not seem to get people very far, at least in the end, and it is obvious that many of the stated motivations of these individuals are the exact opposite of what lurks in their hearts.
The Democrats have no shortage of serious problems when it comes to extramarital activity, some of it illegal, all of it wrong. But that will take another story, it would not be quite as long of a list, but long enough.
The case of former Oregon Governor Neil Goldschmidt came to light on May 6th 2004 in the Willamette Week newspaper. Goldschmidt publicly announced that he had engaged in a sexual relationship with a 14-year old girl for an extended period during his first term as Mayor of Portland. Their relations constituted third degree rape under Oregon law, a felony punishable by up to five years in prison. In this case, the statute of limitations had expired, making Goldschmidt immune from any prosecution over the matter.
The perverted sex pigs of the hypocritical corporate communist & socialist RePUKEblicans engage in far worse misconduct thna anyone else. Natually, they love to point the finger at others and have their paid media *****s and freepers defending them at all times.
''Republican Sex Scandals Dwarf Those of Democrats''
The sexual antics of President Bill Clinton have been a dangerous tool in the Republican campaign arsenal, used to the fullest possible extent, but what have they been up to all these years?
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(SALEM, Ore.) - "He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones." It seems that old adage may be lost on the confused mass that we call modern society. The Grand Old Party, once known for controversial abolitionists, has become the moral party of today, or so their elected leaders will tell you.
As we evolve as a nation, too many people seem to be clinging to ideologies that make little sense, fighting against a woman's right to abortion while demanding that schools not teach children sex education or instruct them in the deadly virus, AIDS. It creates a vicious circle when we fight ourselves, and deny education to those who need it most.
Our nation spent more tax money conducting Ken Starr's investigation of President Bill Clinton's affair with intern Monica Lewinsky, than they did in the investigation of the September 11th 2001 attacks on the United States. Many Americans fail to see the logic behind this.
Now Oregon's Governor stands at risk, as a right wing radio pundit named Lars Larson levels an accusation against Kulongoski that could mean he could not be a lawyer in Oregon again. Larson says that Kulongoski had the goods on Goldschmidt years ago. Sources are reporting that he could have known about what has become known as the Goldschmidt scandal, as early as 1994.
Kulongoski walked angrily out of a press conference Tuesday, after a TV reporter asked him about the former governor's involvement with the teenage babysitter.
Perhaps the Governor is guilty of having known something he didn't tell. He stated that he is not, but if he is, he may lose his right to have a license to practice law. That would be a real burn if you were Ted Kulongoski, and quite a feather in the cap of Lars Larson, no doubt about it.
As Lars Larson is totally political in his pursuits and ambitions, we thought it would be interesting to offer perspective by determining just how many Republican lawmakers and officials have endured similar scrutiny in recent years for sexual perversions, extramarital affairs, etc. It is a hard number to pinpoint, it just depends on the number of years you account for.
As a subject, it was important enough to see an impeachment of former President Bill Clinton, so fair seems fair.
Then we ran into a problem with the idea of naming these scandals and their Republican perpetrators; there are so many they would hardly fit on the page. Using data from "Moral Values," these citations are otherwise attributed to the original agencies. Here is a partial list of names of serious problems related to GOP movers and shakers.
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Larry Flynt taking John Bolton to task? Political leaders funded by the Christian Coalition watching their lives and political ambitions end in disgrace? I know people won't change their views over this article, that would be too much to expect, but I have a feeling some of this information, much of which is not discussed in many circles, is important to share. Major hangups over sex do not seem to get people very far, at least in the end, and it is obvious that many of the stated motivations of these individuals are the exact opposite of what lurks in their hearts.
The Democrats have no shortage of serious problems when it comes to extramarital activity, some of it illegal, all of it wrong. But that will take another story, it would not be quite as long of a list, but long enough.
The case of former Oregon Governor Neil Goldschmidt came to light on May 6th 2004 in the Willamette Week newspaper. Goldschmidt publicly announced that he had engaged in a sexual relationship with a 14-year old girl for an extended period during his first term as Mayor of Portland. Their relations constituted third degree rape under Oregon law, a felony punishable by up to five years in prison. In this case, the statute of limitations had expired, making Goldschmidt immune from any prosecution over the matter.
The perverted sex pigs of the hypocritical corporate communist & socialist RePUKEblicans engage in far worse misconduct thna anyone else. Natually, they love to point the finger at others and have their paid media *****s and freepers defending them at all times.
If I understand you correctly, you're saying that people of a certain 'economic class' are allowed to preach one thing to 'the masses', while doing something completely different on a personal level, without being called a hypocrite, because they are members of some special economic class.
That is nowhere near what I said, TenPenny, are you being purposely obtuse? What I said is that somebody with the income of Gore is going to have a larger carbon footprint than a middle class person.
Thus a hobo with no money, no assets such as a car or a house has the smallest footprint. Then comes a person working for minimum wage (he takes public transport and has a small footprint), then comes lower middle class (one car, smaller house), then middle class (two cars, bigger house), then upper middle class, rich and so on.
So it is nonsense to blame a rich person for having a bigger footprint than a middle class person. And that is all we have heard so far from the Republicans, that Gore has a bigger footprints that an average middle class person. But that comparison is nonsense. How does his footprint compare with other rich people?
Unless we know that, we won’t know if Gore is a hypocrite or not. I wouldn’t put the slightest faith in the conservative, Republican propaganda.
That is nowhere near what I said, TenPenny, are you being purposely obtuse? What I said is that somebody with the income of Gore is going to have a larger carbon footprint than a middle class person.
Thus a hobo with no money, no assets such as a car or a house has the smallest footprint. Then comes a person working for minimum wage (he takes public transport and has a small footprint), then comes lower middle class (one car, smaller house), then middle class (two cars, bigger house), then upper middle class, rich and so on.
So it is nonsense to blame a rich person for having a bigger footprint than a middle class person. And that is all we have heard so far from the Republicans, that Gore has a bigger footprints that an average middle class person. But that comparison is nonsense. How does his footprint compare with other rich people?
Unless we know that, we won’t know if Gore is a hypocrite or not. I wouldn’t put the slightest faith in the conservative, Republican propaganda.
I didn’t say he doesn’t have to, JLM. What I said (and I stand by it) is that as a rich person, he is going to have a bigger footprint than a middle class person. He is going to have a bigger house, bigger cars, he is going to fly more etc.
So it is nonsense to blame him for having a bigger footprint than an average middle class person. As to what he does in his personal life, we don’t know. And that is just my point.
Unless we know what he does in his private life, we won’t know if he is a hypocrite or not. But calling him a hypocrite (as conservatives do, but then I won’t expect a conservative to say anything complimentary about Gore anyway) just because his footprint happens to be bigger than that of an average middle class person is nonsense.
I don't recall saying he was, as a matter of fact I don't recall passing any judgment on Gore.
So I conclude that what you are saying is it is acceptable for rich people to accelerate the destruction of the planet.
No assumptions...we have the facts.
You don’t’ have the facts, EagleSmack, what you have is politics. As I said, conservatives just cannot stand the fact that Gore has become an international celebrity, they hoped that he would slink away into the darkness.
Well, he is very much on the world stage and will remain so for quite a while, get used to it. Your leader (Bush) has faded into obscurity, unlamented by all (except the conservative Republicans, of course).
Your (Republicans) attempts to trash Gore have not achieved any traction with public and it will continue that way, until you can produce some concrete proof of Gore’s hypocrisy (claiming that he has a bigger footprint than middle class people does not establish his hypocrisy).
You don’t’ have the facts, EagleSmack, what you have is politics. As I said, conservatives just cannot stand the fact that Gore has become an international celebrity, they hoped that he would slink away into the darkness.
Well, he is very much on the world stage and will remain so for quite a while, get used to it. Your leader (Bush) has faded into obscurity, unlamented by all (except the conservative Republicans, of course).
Your (Republicans) attempts to trash Gore have not achieved any traction with public and it will continue that way, until you can produce some concrete proof of Gore’s hypocrisy (claiming that he has a bigger footprint than middle class people does not establish his hypocrisy).