Another Hypocrite Bites Dust!

[SirJosephPorter]

Sell his mansion and live in a modest house. Drive economy cars. When he NEEDS to take a trip, make a flight reservation and fly coach like the rest of us. When he doesn't need to fly he can teleconference. Don't take a limo...rent a small car.

Practice what he preaches. How's that?

Until then... he is a hypocrit.

If he was a republican I'd be embarrassed...but he's not.

And why should he do that, EagleSmack? If you had his income would you live in a shack? He earned the income, it is up to him what he wants to do with it. I would enjoy the same lifestyle as him, if I had his income.

There is nothing that says that he cannot live a life of luxury (his own money) and can campaign for reducing greenhouse gases at the same time. Many big name celebrities campaign to reduce poverty, that doesn’t mean that have to practice what they preach and live in poverty.

There is nothing hypocritical about enjoying the fruits of one’s labour. Gore is not telling others that they must not amass a fortune, that will make him a hypocrite. What he is saying is that everybody should do what they can to reduce GHGs and there is nothing wrong with that, I see no hypocrisy.

In fact, I don’t think it is about hypocrisy at all. Conservatives thought they had buried Gore once and for all when they defeated him in the fraudulent election of 2000 (which the Supreme Court, in a disgusting display of political partisanship, granted to their buddy, Bush by a partisan vote). They thought that Gore would slink away into the darkness, his spirits broken, a shell of a man and end his life eventually in poverty and misery.

Instead, Gore came roaring back, became an elder statesman, became much more popular that Bush could hope for even in his wildest dreams, became an international celebrity and amassed a fortune along the way. Republicans hate Gore with a passion, and they just can’t stand to see the guy do well. It is about personal vendetta against Gore, there is no hypocrisy here.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

If he was a republican I'd be embarrassed...but he's not.

Quite so, EagleSmack, I can understand perfectly that you would be embarrassed with somebody like Gore. I assume you like and admire politicians like Mark Sanford, John Ensign and Larry Craig.

 

[EagleSmack]

If he was a republican I'd be embarrassed...but he's not.

Quite so, EagleSmack, I can understand perfectly that you would be embarrassed with somebody like Gore. I assume you like and admire politicians like Mark Sanford, John Ensign and Larry Craig.

You have assumed incorrectly.

Wrong again!

 

[EagleSmack]

And why should he do that, EagleSmack? If you had his income would you live in a shack? He earned the income, it is up to him what he wants to do with it. I would enjoy the same lifestyle as him, if I had his income.

A HA!

I wouldn't either. But I am not the one preaching the reduction of green house gases and reducing carbon footprints.

In that statement that you made you confirmed the hypocricy of Gore!

There is nothing that says that he cannot live a life of luxury (his own money) and can campaign for reducing greenhouse gases at the same time.

True. But it also makes him a big hypocrit.

Many big name celebrities campaign to reduce poverty, that doesn’t mean that have to practice what they preach and live in poverty.

Two separate arguments completely.

There is nothing hypocritical about enjoying the fruits of one’s labour.

Sure it is when he preaches conservation and does absolutely nothing.

Gore is not telling others that they must not amass a fortune, that will make him a hypocrite.

How so?

What he is saying is that everybody should do what they can to reduce GHGs and there is nothing wrong with that, I see no hypocrisy.

He's not doing what he can...that makes him a hypocrit.

In fact, I don’t think it is about hypocrisy at all.

Of course you don't!

Conservatives thought they had buried Gore once and for all when they defeated him in the fraudulent election of 2000

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(which the Supreme Court, in a disgusting display of political partisanship, granted to their buddy, Bush by a partisan vote).

Just like the MN Supreme Courst did for Stuart Smalley? :lol:

They thought that Gore would slink away into the darkness, his spirits broken, a shell of a man and end his life eventually in poverty and misery.

LMAO. Did you really say this? Sounds VERY creepy.

He probably would have done liberals a favor if he had though!

Instead, Gore came roaring back, became an elder statesman, became much more popular that Bush could hope for even in his wildest dreams, became an international celebrity and amassed a fortune along the way.

Do I hear a fly unzipping?

Republicans hate Gore with a passion, and they just can’t stand to see the guy do well. It is about personal vendetta against Gore, there is no hypocrisy here.

Nah...conservatives don't hate the clown. Gore amuses us as clowns should.

 

[Cannuck]

There is nothing that says that he cannot live a life of luxury (his own money) and can campaign for reducing greenhouse gases at the same time. Many big name celebrities campaign to reduce poverty, that doesn’t mean that have to practice what they preach and live in poverty.

There is nothing that says a republican cannot live a life of sleaze and can campaign for less sleaze at the same time. Many big name republicans campaign to reduce sleaze, that doesn’t mean that have to practice what they preach and live without sleaze.


BTW - You should know your point and your entire argument is lost when people use your own points and your own arguments to show how full of sh*t you are.

 

[EagleSmack]

There is nothing that says a republican cannot live a life of sleaze and can campaign for less sleaze at the same time. Many big name republicans campaign to reduce sleaze, that doesn’t mean that have to practice what they preach and live without sleaze.


BTW - You should know your point and your entire argument is lost when people use your own points and your own arguments to show how full of sh*t you are.

You know what Cannuck... You are absolutley correct!

BRILLIANT!

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I wouldn't either. But I am not the one preaching the reduction of green house gases and reducing carbon footprints.

In that statement that you made you confirmed the hypocricy of Gore!

I have confirmed nothing, EagleSmack, you have confirmed your own views, nothing more. I don’t’ see any hypocrisy.

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There is nothing that says that he cannot live a life of luxury (his own money) and can campaign for reducing greenhouse gases at the same time.

True. But it also makes him a big hypocrit.

Again, it does nothing of the sort.

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Many big name celebrities campaign to reduce poverty, that doesn’t mean that have to practice what they preach and live in poverty.

Two separate arguments completely.

Entirely the same arguments.

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There is nothing hypocritical about enjoying the fruits of one’s labour.

Sure it is when he preaches conservation and does absolutely nothing.

And how do you know that he does absolutely nothing? Because the far right websites say so?

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What he is saying is that everybody should do what they can to reduce GHGs and there is nothing wrong with that, I see no hypocrisy.

He's not doing what he can...that makes him a hypocrit.

Again, how do you know that he is not doing what he can? Far right websites again?

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Conservatives thought they had buried Gore once and for all when they defeated him in the fraudulent election of 2000

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Quite so. Truth makes you asleep, doesn’t it?

He probably would have done liberals a favor if he had though!

He did the liberals (and indeed, the whole world) a favor when he did not disappear into the mist as Republicans very much wanted him to do. He did not give up on life as Republicans wanted him to do. He is a very effective, very articulate spokesperson for global warming, all over the world, not just USA. While Bush is despised over most of the world, Gore is loved.

Nah...conservatives don't hate the clown. Gore amuses us as clowns should.

Sure conservatives hate him. An I assume he wears the hate with pride, as a badge of honour.

 

[ironsides]

I don't think anyone hates him, he just lost a election. A lot of people have personal causes, like Don Quixote. Global warming, global cooling, what does it matter what a country does as long as China, India and Indonesia do nothing. Nothing we do will make a difference except make the rich richer. Hmm Gore is rich isn't he.

 

[TenPenny]

There is nothing that says that he cannot live a life of luxury (his own money) and can campaign for reducing greenhouse gases at the same time. Many big name celebrities campaign to reduce poverty, that doesn’t mean that have to practice what they preach and live in poverty.

There is nothing hypocritical about enjoying the fruits of one’s labour. Gore is not telling others that they must not amass a fortune, that will make him a hypocrite. What he is saying is that everybody should do what they can to reduce GHGs and there is nothing wrong with that, I see no hypocrisy.

You have a bizarre interpretation of hypocrisy.

Conspicuous and gratuitous consumption of energy, while insisting that we need to reduce our energy consumption, exactly fits the definition of hypocrisy.

I would venture that you are the only person who cannot see this.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

You have a bizarre interpretation of hypocrisy.

Conspicuous and gratuitous consumption of energy, while insisting that we need to reduce our energy consumption, exactly fits the definition of hypocrisy.

I would venture that you are the only person who cannot see this.

We don’t know that he is involved in gratuitous and conspicuous consumption of energy, we have only the word of the far right for it.

He says we need to reduce our energy consumption, on that he is spot on. But what evidence do you have that he is involved in gratuitous and conspicuous consumption of energy, except that the far right websites say so.

Nobody has been able to answer the question I posed, how does his carbon footprint compare with others of his economic class? Until we know the answer to that, we don’t know if he is guilty of hypocrisy.

 

[JLM]

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There is nothing that says that he cannot live a life of luxury (his own money) and can campaign for reducing greenhouse gases at the same time.

True. But it also makes him a big hypocrit.

Again, it does nothing of the sort."

Unless of course he's not making the same effort himself to reduce greenhouse gases as he's urging othters to do.

 

[talloola]

If he can't work toward bettering the world while he lives where he lives, then
none of us can, we all have contributed toward the demise of the earth, and
we can say what we want and do what we can do, we don't have to sell
everything we own and live in a grass hut, before we make comments or work
with others to make things better, we can all do it gradually, and so can he.
The ones who talk about him, but do nothing themselves should look in the
mirror and ask, what they can do to help.
He isn't a hypocrite, he has a position in the world where people will listen to him.
Good for him.

 

[normbc9]

While I haven't found it yet, Jenny Sanford is supposed to have a website now active as Jenny Sanford for Governor. Why not? She certainly ran his campaign well and is probably the reason his campaign was so successsful. I do know she is one of the heirs to the Skil Tools fortune. He isn't exactly impressing his own constituents right now with the continuing line of revelations he is making to the media. By the time this is all finished he will be nothing more than another name like Mark Foley and other has been politcians.

 

[TenPenny]

We don’t know that he is involved in gratuitous and conspicuous consumption of energy, we have only the word of the far right for it.

He says we need to reduce our energy consumption, on that he is spot on. But what evidence do you have that he is involved in gratuitous and conspicuous consumption of energy, except that the far right websites say so.

Nobody has been able to answer the question I posed, how does his carbon footprint compare with others of his economic class? Until we know the answer to that, we don’t know if he is guilty of hypocrisy.

If I understand you correctly, you're saying that people of a certain 'economic class' are allowed to preach one thing to 'the masses', while doing something completely different on a personal level, without being called a hypocrite, because they are members of some special economic class.

If that is so, then I would venture to say that homophobic right wing Christian lunatics have a free pass to have affairs and bizarre sexual trysts, and preach something else to 'the masses', because they belong to a special moral class.

It makes as much sense as the bizarre reasoning that you use.

 

[JLM]

We don’t know that he is involved in gratuitous and conspicuous consumption of energy, we have only the word of the far right for it.

He says we need to reduce our energy consumption, on that he is spot on. But what evidence do you have that he is involved in gratuitous and conspicuous consumption of energy, except that the far right websites say so.

Nobody has been able to answer the question I posed, how does his carbon footprint compare with others of his economic class? Until we know the answer to that, we don’t know if he is guilty of hypocrisy.

That argument won't fly in any way, shape or form, S.J. drop it while you're ahead. It's exactly the same as saying it doesn't matter what a pimp does as long as he doesn't do anymore damage than the average pimp.

 

[Cannuck]

we don't have to sell everything we own and live in a grass hut, before we make comments or work with others to make things better, we can all do it gradually, and so can he.

Nobody is suggesting he live in a grass hut, just tone down on the excesses. In the same way, nobody is expecting Sanford to be a saint...well maybe Joey.

 

[Cannuck]

That argument won't fly in any way, shape or form, S.J. drop it while you're ahead.

It's not in Joey's nature to drop it. When his arguments are proven fallacious, he simply moves into spin mode. Eventually, people get dizzy trying to follow the logic and give up.

 

[JLM]

Nobody is suggesting he live in a grass hut, just tone down on the excesses. In the same way, nobody is expecting Sanford to be a saint...well maybe Joey.

That's right Cannuck, one thing I've noticed where $millions could be saved is that public bldgs. such as schools, hospitals, shopping malls are overheated and everyone is running around in short sleeved shirts. Cut the thermostat back 2 degrees and wear long sleeve shirts.

 

[EagleSmack]

If I understand you correctly, you're saying that people of a certain 'economic class' are allowed to preach one thing to 'the masses', while doing something completely different on a personal level, without being called a hypocrite, because they are members of some special economic class.

If that is so, then I would venture to say that homophobic right wing Christian lunatics have a free pass to have affairs and bizarre sexual trysts, and preach something else to 'the masses', because they belong to a special moral class.

It makes as much sense as the bizarre reasoning that you use.

Exactly TenPenny. Cannuck hit the nail on the head and you have just clarified it even better.

 

[EagleSmack]

Nobody is suggesting he live in a grass hut, just tone down on the excesses. In the same way, nobody is expecting Sanford to be a saint...well maybe Joey.

The suggestion that Gore should live in a grass hut is ludicrous and a sad attempt at damage control for a clearly hypocritical stance.

But it appears to some that Gore can preach conservation and sacrifice while enjoying a life of excess while Sanford CANNOT enjoy a tryst while preaching fidelity. Clearly hypocritical.