Anne Coulter on "The View"

[Francis2004]

Watching Coulters appearance on "The View" this morning was high comedy at best and depressing to watch "white trash" behave like some indignant five year old shamelessly trying to inject controversary in order to sell her tabloid book.

After "dissing" Barbara Walters, she rambled on about nothing of substance hoping to "bait" Walters into responding. Walters being the consumate professional refused to lower her standards to Coulters level and left Coulter flaying about hysterically

She defended her views from her latest book Guilty, which is controversial even for her! The book includes opinions like her disproval of single mothers raising children and the media's unequal treatment of the candidates in the presidential election, including what she calls the media's love affair with Barack Obama. She sent everyone home with a copy of Guilty.

I watched The View a long time ago and on You Tube when the Rosie quit..

YouTube - The View - 4-26-07 Media Reaction of Rosie leaving the View

From what else I have seen of this show its producers only "Advocate" confrontational views and love it..

If your surprised, your "Guilty" .. ha ha ha

 

[bobnoorduyn]

What I can't believe is how many guys actually watch "The View". It reminds me too much of the torture I endured as a young'n, stuck sitting at the dinner table listening to my mother and all my aunts natter on and on while having to finish my veggies after all the men left to go smoke. :tard:

 

[karrie]

What I can't believe is how many guys actually watch "The View". It reminds me too much of the torture I endured as a young'n, stuck sitting at the dinner table listening to my mother and all my aunts natter on and on while having to finish my veggies after all the men left to go smoke. :tard:

Yeah, a lot of men seem to have trouble with women ACTUALLY, not just theoretically, having an opinion and discussing it strongly. It's funny that not one man I know seems to complain about the fluff parts of the show, but, the part where the women actually debate social and political issues puts them off.

 

[talloola]

I've gone by the show a few times while changing channels, never stopped there.
I don't usually watch TV during the day.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Yeah, a lot of men seem to have trouble with women ACTUALLY, not just theoretically, having an opinion and discussing it strongly. It's funny that not one man I know seems to complain about the fluff parts of the show, but, the part where the women actually debate social and political issues puts them off.

Being a little hard on men there Karrie, just because some men disagree with their opinions doesn't mean neither side is entitled to one, don't be so defensive.

I don't know what you mean by the fluff parts, I just can't stand the entire format. Discussing strongly? Debate? It is anything other than that when you get 5 or 6 people trying to argue over one another, much like the dinner table, (you don't know my aunts). Dr.Phil gets like that too when he has a bunch of guests with differing views and he doesn't effectively moderate the show. But I have noticed that women are more prone to interrupting other speakers on these shows, and around the dinner table.

 

[Francis2004]

Yeah, a lot of men seem to have trouble with women ACTUALLY, not just theoretically, having an opinion and discussing it strongly. It's funny that not one man I know seems to complain about the fluff parts of the show, but, the part where the women actually debate social and political issues puts them off.

I have no problems with it.. Reminds me of my life before my ex moved out.. With two women in the house I had little of "My Views" taken seriously.

Now it seems "My Views" might have not have been more politically correct and that I was giving them their fair share of time. Too bad its only noticed now they no longer have a right to those "Women Views" anymore..

 

[Cannuck]

I find it interesting that not one of the posts here actually took issue with what Anne said. People seem more concerned with how she says it. I don't watch The View but I saw a 10 minute segment on Youtube. Her main issue seemed to be the "glamorization" of single mothers and the problems she claims are caused by this situation. I think her detractors would have a little more credibility if they actually refuted what she said.

For the record, I've heard of Anne but haven't read any of her stuff or seen her on TV. I think the Youtube spot on the view may be the first time I've actually heard the woman speak. I know she is a conservative but I would think that if her ideas are so bad, people could criticize that instead of calling her a crack w h o r e, among other things.

 

[Kreskin]

I find it interesting that not one of the posts here actually took issue with what Anne said. People seem more concerned with how she says it. I don't watch The View but I saw a 10 minute segment on Youtube. Her main issue seemed to be the "glamorization" of single mothers and the problems she claims are caused by this situation. I think her detractors would have a little more credibility if they actually refuted what she said.

For the record, I've heard of Anne but haven't read any of her stuff or seen her on TV. I think the Youtube spot on the view may be the first time I've actually heard the woman speak. I know she is a conservative but I would think that if her ideas are so bad, people could criticize that instead of calling her a crack w h o r e, among other things.

Well, the glamorization of single parents..does that even register on the radar screen of issues? She will bitch about it until there aren't any single mothers, and since that won't happen she'll just bitch. That's what she does. She picks fights with anyone who doesn't follow her Nazi script.

 

[karrie]

Being a little hard on men there Karrie.... But I have noticed that women are more prone to interrupting other speakers on these shows, and around the dinner table.

No, I don't think I'm being overly hard on men.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

I remember seeing Anne on The Fifth Estate arguing with Bob Mckeown that there's no reason why Canada shouldn't help the US invade Iraq, because after all we went with them into Vietnam...:lol::lol:

CBC: The Fifth Estate - Sticks and Stones

 

[Cannuck]

Well, the glamorization of single parents..does that even register on the radar screen of issues?

It does to her....and if what she said is true (about the numbers of inmates from fatherless homes), then it should be on the radar screen.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

No, I don't think I'm being overly hard on men.

Well, as long as you're comfortable with your generalizations and stereotypes you may as well respect others' generalizations and stereotypes.

 

[karrie]

It does to her....and if what she said is true (about the numbers of inmates from fatherless homes), then it should be on the radar screen.

Why should 'single parents' be on the radar screen rather than 'parents who abandon their families'. What Coulter has chosen to do is demonize and accuse the victims of other's actions, rather than address those who freely make the choice to leave. What she refuses to look at are the defining differences between the single moms whose kids end up in a life of crime, and those whose kids don't. I'd guess the difference is finances personally, not just single parents. And a poor single mom is usually such because of a dead beat dad. Why doesn't she bring up dead beat dads? Because it's not inflammatory, and thus wouldn't follow her winning format.

 

[karrie]

Well, as long as you're comfortable with your generalizations and stereotypes you may as well respect others' generalizations and stereotypes.

Oh ya got me bob! lol.

I wasn't actually meaning to be generalizing. I used a couple qualifying terms to explain what I was talking about. 'lots of men' when referring to the complaints about not wanting to listen to women talk politics (and you can't argue with that... I've heard lots complain), and 'none of the men I know' when discussing what it is they gripe about with the show and what they don't. I never once claimed all men are one thing or another. But have fun.

 

[Cannuck]

What Coulter has chosen to do is demonize and accuse the victims of other's actions, rather than address those who freely make the choice to leave.

How has she done that?

 

[karrie]

How has she done that?

She actually says, in her book.... "Victim of a crime? Thank a single mother."

If that isn't accusing, I don't really know what is.

 

[Zzarchov]

It does to her....and if what she said is true (about the numbers of inmates from fatherless homes), then it should be on the radar screen.

As mentioned, the research that is based upon is more than sketchy. Its been awhile since I saw that claim splashed around, but among issues of population size, and testing methods was the issue of ascertaining causalty.

even if the numbers are true, the question is "did being raised by a single mother cause one to be a criminal" , or did an underlying reason cause you to be both raised by a single mother and become a criminal, in which case both are symptoms of another issue.

If I have a fever and an upset stomach, its not enough to say "because most people with a fever have an upset stomach, its only logical that a fever causes an upset stomach", when the reality is, the person has a virus so they end up with both a fever and an upset stomach.

 

[TenPenny]

Well, the glamorization of single parents..does that even register on the radar screen of issues? She will bitch about it until there aren't any single mothers, and since that won't happen she'll just bitch. That's what she does. She picks fights with anyone who doesn't follow her Nazi script.

Didn't Obama make the point last year that young men have a responsibility to the children they've fathered....and it seems to me that he did so in a way that, if he were white, he would have been called racist.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Oh ya got me bob! lol.

I wasn't actually meaning to be generalizing. I used a couple qualifying terms to explain what I was talking about. 'lots of men' when referring to the complaints about not wanting to listen to women talk politics (and you can't argue with that... I've heard lots complain), and 'none of the men I know' when discussing what it is they gripe about with the show and what they don't. I never once claimed all men are one thing or another. But have fun.

Thank you, I will. And as I said, my major complaint is with the format of the show, (but you have to admit, it is directed primarily at a female audience, that’s why I said I don’t know many men who watch it). Maybe the men you know don’t like to listen to women talking politics, maybe men you know only like to talk hockey, I don’t know. I like a good debate, I like to watch a good debate, what I don’t like is seeing the one with the loudest voice get the advantage. Nor do I like it when one side gangs up on another, especially when the other is outnumbered, but I guess it’s good for ratings. The View isn’t the only show that does this.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

I find it interesting that not one of the posts here actually took issue with what Anne said. People seem more concerned with how she says it. I don't watch The View but I saw a 10 minute segment on Youtube. Her main issue seemed to be the "glamorization" of single mothers and the problems she claims are caused by this situation. I think her detractors would have a little more credibility if they actually refuted what she said.

I watched the same Youtube segment, I don't know if there was more or not, but she didn't really say much, or get a chance to. It seemed to be about a few comments made in just one chapter of the book. I might just read it, but I'll wait 'til it gets to the library, I don't know if it's worth buying, I've read some of her stuff.

There is some truth to the glamourization of single mothers though, when my kids were in high school they each had at least 3 friends or aquaintances who had a child without benefit of a stable relationship,(or any relationship). Now that they are in the workforce they meet even more young women in similar situations. We also have friends whose child has had a baby in the same manner, they feel it is their right and hey, the other kids are doing it. Unfortunately this responsibility ends up being dumped on the grandperents. It may be an uncomfortable issue, but it is an issue.