I think not said:Daz
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too right....it's a bit of a sore point with a lot of people...everywhere so it seems
I think not said:Daz
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Daz_Hockey said:I think not said:Daz
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too right....it's a bit of a sore point with a lot of people...everywhere so it seems
Kreskin said:ITN, do they have vending machine CT scans too?
Daz_Hockey said:hey hey, I like those MRI's, Although they are slightly cramped inside
Daz_Hockey said:SaintLucifer said:Daz_Hockey said:well..."technically", I hate to admit it Saintlucifer, but that's what it is, every communist country has or used to hve a national healthcare system, and I know the british Labour government that created the "cradle to the grave" system were Heavy socialists.
It is a socialist system, although I agree with my old Yankee tour guide "disbanding an empire while creating a free national health system is a. either madness or b. shows that Britain was lot more wealthy than it initially claimed"..I would suggest the idea was the brainchild of a few inspired socialists, but it was killing the country by the 70's so Yes...I appreciate it, I'm proud of it, BUT....YES I will admit it is a Socialist's dreamchild
What does disbanding the Empire have to do with healthcare?
a lot actually.....think about it, think of the timing, Britain disbanded it's Empire MAINLY because it could not afford to keep it, Britain was "supposedly" broke, and of course the fact it was the right thing to do had little to do with it.
BUT the point is this: BRITAIN is BROKE
SOOOOOOOO
Why oh why would a country that was broke, create a national health care system that would eventually cost a fortune, not a small one, but a GIGANTIC one to maintain?....simply put, it wasn't as poor as it suggested, a fact not lost on people who realise Britain was really the only country to pay back fully the "lend-lease" payments.
But a national health system, if you look at it, look at the time of it's inception, virtually throughout the commonwealth at the same time, was a get together and a last "noble" throw of an idea of an extinct empire actually.
Daz_Hockey said:SaintLucifer said:Daz_Hockey said:well..."technically", I hate to admit it Saintlucifer, but that's what it is, every communist country has or used to hve a national healthcare system, and I know the british Labour government that created the "cradle to the grave" system were Heavy socialists.
It is a socialist system, although I agree with my old Yankee tour guide "disbanding an empire while creating a free national health system is a. either madness or b. shows that Britain was lot more wealthy than it initially claimed"..I would suggest the idea was the brainchild of a few inspired socialists, but it was killing the country by the 70's so Yes...I appreciate it, I'm proud of it, BUT....YES I will admit it is a Socialist's dreamchild
What does disbanding the Empire have to do with healthcare?
a lot actually.....think about it, think of the timing, Britain disbanded it's Empire MAINLY because it could not afford to keep it, Britain was "supposedly" broke, and of course the fact it was the right thing to do had little to do with it.
BUT the point is this: BRITAIN is BROKE
SOOOOOOOO
Why oh why would a country that was broke, create a national health care system that would eventually cost a fortune, not a small one, but a GIGANTIC one to maintain?....simply put, it wasn't as poor as it suggested, a fact not lost on people who realise Britain was really the only country to pay back fully the "lend-lease" payments.
But a national health system, if you look at it, look at the time of it's inception, virtually throughout the commonwealth at the same time, was a get together and a last "noble" throw of an idea of an extinct empire actually.
Daz_Hockey said:I agree, and Iam fully aware of the near-vulture-like methodologu of the united states, makes you laugh doesnt it?, the people that actually admired Britain ended up fighting against her, and those who werent particularly fond, or wanted to play a part in her downfall "supposedly" sided with her.
Does make you wonder what Britain ever did SOO wrong to her old colonies doesnt it?, I mean, to turn against them and side with their life-long enemies (france), steal all their ideas of "freedom and liberty", critisize Colonialisation and yet seek global dominance themselves...then "pretend" to be their friends...
ITN, I know what arguements we've had about this, but this was the past, not now, but yes Lucifer, I was aware of this, but I dont think it was created solely out of loans.
SaintLucifer said:'Tis a shame we lost America to the dumb Colonial bastards is it not? To think all of that could have been part of Canada.
GlobalNirvana said:The Veterans' Affairs healthcare administration. Not only does it have higher patient satisfaction than the private healthcare system, but it scores higher in objective measures of quality too. The system is more efficient and hasn't been a victim to the rising costs and premiums of private healthcare since it has one centralized system of record-keeping and billing; costs are dramatically cut compared to the multi-layered private system and medical errors are reduced.
A recent commission appointed by Congress showed that most Americans want a universal system of healthcare in this country.
It's time to respect the will of the people, even though it may conflict with the interests of the corporate world. This is after all a democracy, not a facist nation (the merger of government and corporate interests).
-Global Nirvana