Americans burning American flag
- Thread starter Just the Facts
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Of course the virtual flag burning is childish, but perhaps you should have viewed the other parts of that site. For example, there's this on the introduction page:
I'm not a flag burner. I don't plan to burn the flag. I respect the flag. I even agree with people who say that flag burning is ineffective, mis-directed, or "improper."
I'm not "Anti-America."
Some people choose to burn the flag. It is a controversial topic because some people are offended by that action. Supreme Court rulings have upheld that peaceful flag desecration is a form of political speech that should be protected by our Constitution. I agree.
So I'm not even trying to change anything. I like these laws the way they are. I'm not fighting, or rallying, or trying to mess things up. I'm trying to keep them "American."
Some people would like peaceful political protestors who burn the flag to be thrown in prison. That's not the kind of action that a "free country" takes.
The worst part of all is that we can't pass and enforce laws against flag burning unless we modify the US Constitution and remove an important part of the First Amendment.
Some people are trying to do just that. And if the only reason is to stop a few 'hippie protestor' from burning flags, it's a very mis-directed effort. They claim they want to "protect the flag," but the reason most flag-burnings protestors burn the flag is to protest flag-burning laws. Very few people protest against wars and taxes by desecrating the flag. It's time our Senators just let the issue drop.
I'm not a flag burner. I don't plan to burn the flag. I respect the flag. I even agree with people who say that flag burning is ineffective, mis-directed, or "improper."
I'm not "Anti-America."
Some people choose to burn the flag. It is a controversial topic because some people are offended by that action. Supreme Court rulings have upheld that peaceful flag desecration is a form of political speech that should be protected by our Constitution. I agree.
So I'm not even trying to change anything. I like these laws the way they are. I'm not fighting, or rallying, or trying to mess things up. I'm trying to keep them "American."
Some people would like peaceful political protestors who burn the flag to be thrown in prison. That's not the kind of action that a "free country" takes.
The worst part of all is that we can't pass and enforce laws against flag burning unless we modify the US Constitution and remove an important part of the First Amendment.
Some people are trying to do just that. And if the only reason is to stop a few 'hippie protestor' from burning flags, it's a very mis-directed effort. They claim they want to "protect the flag," but the reason most flag-burnings protestors burn the flag is to protest flag-burning laws. Very few people protest against wars and taxes by desecrating the flag. It's time our Senators just let the issue drop.
Yeah, though bra burning was about oppresion and discriminatory actions.
This is different.
Somehow 8)
This is different.
Somehow 8)
Boy: (spoken) Hey, who left all this garbage lying on the steps of Congress?
Amendment: (spoken) I'm not garbage.
(sung) I'm an amendment to be,
Yes, an amendment to be,
And I'm hoping that they'll ratify me,
There's a lot of flag burners,
Who have got too much freedom,
I wanna make it legal,
For policemen to beat 'em,
'Cause there's limits to our liberties.
'Least I hope and pray that there are,
'Cause those liberal freaks go too far.
Boy: (spoken) But why can't we just make a law against flag burning?
Amendment: (spoken) Because that law would be unconstitutional.
But if we changed the Constitution...
Boy: (spoken) Then we could make all sorts of crazy laws!
Amendment: (spoken) Now you're catching on!
Brief breakaway as Bart and Lisa comment on what they're seeing.
Boy: (spoken) But what if they say you're not good enough to be in the Constitution?
Amendment: (sung) Then I'll destroy all opposition to me,
And I'll make Ted Kennedy pay,
If he fights back,
I'll say that he's gay!
Fat Senator: (running up) Good news, Amendment! They ratified 'ya. You're in the U.S. Constitution!
Amendment: (spoken, estatic) Oh, yeah! Door's open, boys!
Many bills and amendments run in, behaving wildly and shooting guns; bombs fly everywhere. The crowd cheers enthusiastically as the Senator lifts the boy and the Amendment on his shoulders; both raise their hands triumphantly.
Blackboard: None.
Couch: The family comes in, but they are gray outlines. Robotic arms come in and detail them.
Quotes
"Bye, kids. On your way back, pick up a six-pack of beer." -Homer
"Oh, why can't they just take the gun?" -Homer
"Are you the creator of 'Hi and Lois?' Because you are making me laugh." -comic book guy
"Mom, there's a weird smell and a lot of cursing coming from the basement...and Dad's upstairs" -Lisa
"Look out Itchy. He's Irish!"-Bart and Milhouse
"Well we got plenty of heresay conjecture, those
are kinds of evidence"-Hutz
(Bart and Lisa watch the Schoolhouse Rock rip-off)
Bart: What the hell is this?
Lisa: It's one of those campy '70s throwbacks that appeal to Generation-Xers.
Bart: We need another Vietnam to out their ranks a little.
"Ooh, your powers of deduction are exceptional. I simply can't allow you to waste them here when there are so many crimes going unsolved at this very moment. Go! go! for the good of the city!" - Comic Book Guy
Lisa: So it's true: some cartoons do encourage violence.
(punches Bart)
Bart: Ow! We gotta get Itchy & Scratchy back.
Lisa: And soon.
Amendment: (spoken) I'm not garbage.
(sung) I'm an amendment to be,
Yes, an amendment to be,
And I'm hoping that they'll ratify me,
There's a lot of flag burners,
Who have got too much freedom,
I wanna make it legal,
For policemen to beat 'em,
'Cause there's limits to our liberties.
'Least I hope and pray that there are,
'Cause those liberal freaks go too far.
Boy: (spoken) But why can't we just make a law against flag burning?
Amendment: (spoken) Because that law would be unconstitutional.
But if we changed the Constitution...
Boy: (spoken) Then we could make all sorts of crazy laws!
Amendment: (spoken) Now you're catching on!
Brief breakaway as Bart and Lisa comment on what they're seeing.
Boy: (spoken) But what if they say you're not good enough to be in the Constitution?
Amendment: (sung) Then I'll destroy all opposition to me,
And I'll make Ted Kennedy pay,
If he fights back,
I'll say that he's gay!
Fat Senator: (running up) Good news, Amendment! They ratified 'ya. You're in the U.S. Constitution!
Amendment: (spoken, estatic) Oh, yeah! Door's open, boys!
Many bills and amendments run in, behaving wildly and shooting guns; bombs fly everywhere. The crowd cheers enthusiastically as the Senator lifts the boy and the Amendment on his shoulders; both raise their hands triumphantly.
Blackboard: None.
Couch: The family comes in, but they are gray outlines. Robotic arms come in and detail them.
Quotes
"Bye, kids. On your way back, pick up a six-pack of beer." -Homer
"Oh, why can't they just take the gun?" -Homer
"Are you the creator of 'Hi and Lois?' Because you are making me laugh." -comic book guy
"Mom, there's a weird smell and a lot of cursing coming from the basement...and Dad's upstairs" -Lisa
"Look out Itchy. He's Irish!"-Bart and Milhouse
"Well we got plenty of heresay conjecture, those
are kinds of evidence"-Hutz
(Bart and Lisa watch the Schoolhouse Rock rip-off)
Bart: What the hell is this?
Lisa: It's one of those campy '70s throwbacks that appeal to Generation-Xers.
Bart: We need another Vietnam to out their ranks a little.
"Ooh, your powers of deduction are exceptional. I simply can't allow you to waste them here when there are so many crimes going unsolved at this very moment. Go! go! for the good of the city!" - Comic Book Guy
Lisa: So it's true: some cartoons do encourage violence.
(punches Bart)
Bart: Ow! We gotta get Itchy & Scratchy back.
Lisa: And soon.
Does anyone know if there is a law in Canada that permits burning of the Canadian flag? Common law if any I would imagine.
Re: RE: Americans burning Ame
It wouldn't be, until someone complains about it. I was curious if there was a common law in effect similar to that of the US
Reverend Blair said:
It wouldn't be, until someone complains about it. I was curious if there was a common law in effect similar to that of the US
I would think that burning the flag in protest is preferable to burning down the White House with everyone inside... :wink:
Look how much attention flag burning gets. This is silly, especially in the light of the Rev's thought:
"It isn't treason. The actions being committed by the Bush regime in the name of their country is treason though...anti-democratic, belligerent, ignorant, arrogant, criminal, inhumane, and unhuman"
So no, you cannot just let the torture continue and complain about people burning the Flag in protest, the Flag that represents the nation doing the torture [and no Eagle it doesnt matter if they are not the only guilty one]
Does it mean the government, or what the flag represents, is being protested? Its about the flag representing something that our present government does not, thats why its being burned. I accept that.
K
"It isn't treason. The actions being committed by the Bush regime in the name of their country is treason though...anti-democratic, belligerent, ignorant, arrogant, criminal, inhumane, and unhuman"
So no, you cannot just let the torture continue and complain about people burning the Flag in protest, the Flag that represents the nation doing the torture [and no Eagle it doesnt matter if they are not the only guilty one]
Does it mean the government, or what the flag represents, is being protested? Its about the flag representing something that our present government does not, thats why its being burned. I accept that.
K
RE: Americans burning Ame
It's the same as burning a person in effigy really, except that it represents a government instead of a single person. Hey, does anybody know a site where we can spark up a virtual George Bush?
It's the same as burning a person in effigy really, except that it represents a government instead of a single person. Hey, does anybody know a site where we can spark up a virtual George Bush?
I think not said:
Well, that was sort of the point I was trying to make...that I'm certain that the lawmakers would prefer it... :wink:
You'd have to notify the fire mashall or forestry first and get a permit. hehe