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There has been a longstanding arrangement in the South to allow monuments, and specifically those erected in the aftermath of the Civil War to memorialize war dead (almost all poor southern farmers and non slave holders), to be treated as historical artefacts and not as emblems of support of political discrimination.

Charlotte stept all over that arrangement (by voting to remove a bronze statue of Gen. Robert E. Lee), capitulating the dictates of groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, a fundamentally racist organization, which is continually trying to inflame ethnic and cultural divides to support its agenda of political correctness. Its intent is to use any symbol of as a sign of 'sytemic' racism and oppression.

It's no surprise, in fact predicatable, that many see this as an assault on their own culture and heritage which has nothing to do with bigotry.
 
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Personally I say leave them, but add a plaque or something stating the truth of the statue and what it means. Y'know, put the actual history out in the open so it can't be ignored.

The flag is another story. Easily removed, easily stopped from being mass produced.
 
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Yes I see CNN has departed from 24 hour 7 days a week coverage of Russia screwed Hillary via Trump to wall to wall on this.

Car rams the crowd











https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/12/nazi-white-nationalist-rallies-virginia-protests
 
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coldstream said:
There has been a longstanding arrangement in the South to allow monuments, and specifically those erected in the aftermath of the Civil War to memorialize war dead (almost all poor southern farmers and non slave holders), to be treated as historical artefacts and not as emblems of support of political discrimination.

Charlotte stept all over that arrangement (by voting to remove a bronze statue of Gen. Robert E. Lee), capitulating the dictates of groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, a fundamentally racist organization, which is continually trying to inflame ethnic and cultural divides to support its agenda of political correctness. Its intent is to use any symbol of as a sign of 'sytemic' racism and oppression.

It's no surprise, in fact predicatable, that many see this as an assault on their own culture and heritage which has nothing to do with bigotry.
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It's Charlottesville, which is in Virginia, not Charlotte, which is in North Carolina.

The rest of your post is equally clue-free.
 
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B00Mer said:
ALT Right Trump supports rioting on General Lee Statue

Disturbing videos show violence during Charlotte protests | Fox News


Okay personally they should leave the statue up and quit going after the Confederate Flag.. US History is ugly, why hide it.. remember it and never repeat it..
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You are soon going to beat flossy at OPs that have nothing to do with the content of the link. All the link leads to is a bunch of black racists rioting and destroying private property. Ithas nothing to do with Trump or right wing politics at all. More like a bunch of black hoodlums trying to rewrite history.
 
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If there is anything to be said about the "racial divide" it started under Obama and has now flourished under Trump. It is truly unfortunate that people want to hide the "bad things" of history. I, too, think the statue should be left alone, if nothing else as a reminder of how things could be. Alas, look what's happening now!! Guess they already forgot or refuse to acknowledge their history.


The last time I was in the South, everything was calm; nothing especially of note on white vs. black. I met both white and black individuals who were the kindest, most humble and friendly individuals anyone could possibly meet. I didn't sense any tension between the two nor did I see anything that I would have construed as "hate" or even "dislike". However, this was also " Pre Obama".


Now, it's absolutely out of control but then I also believe the likes of the Obama and George Soros are quite enjoying the seeds that they've planted. Too bad a lot of people don't realize that they're being manipulated by those who want to encourage dividing the American people because they have something to prove or they have something to gain (likely the latter). George Soros is renown for creating chaos in countries and seems to be successfully doing it in the States as well.


By Trump winning the election, they've discovered that they can use his blow-heartedness, arrogance and stupidity against him and his followers to reach their goal of bringing down America. Having said that Trump was absolutely correct in stating that ALL SIDES are responsible for the hate and bigotry that is on the rise. Simply "blaming" him or his followers is disingenuous and absolutely not true (see previous statement re: Obama)!!


The Left must be laughing with glee and the stupidity of his supporters as it simply furthers their cause of creating a major divide and possible civil war - again. I truly hope that Americans figure things out very quickly because it doesn't look good at all.


I thought Obama (and still do) was the worst President ever, but Trump is on the road to proving me wrong for sure!!


JMHO
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
It's Charlottesville, which is in Virginia, not Charlotte, which is in North Carolina.

The rest of your post is equally clue-free.
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Right Charlottesville, but the rest of the post stands. Charlottesville could have easily put the Confederate War Memorial in some context of Civil Right martyrs, or, black soldiers who fought for the the Union cause. It's this erasure of history in the cause of political conformity, and especially the villianization of the southern soldier as purely bigoted in motive instead of a patriotism to what they deemed their nation at the time. Anyone who has read at all of Gen. Robert E. Lee would realize he was deeply principled and moral man, however, misbegotten his cause.
 
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coldstream said:
Right Charlottesville, but the rest of the post stands. Charlottesville could have easily put the Confederate War Memorial in some context of Civil Right martyrs, or, black soldiers who fought for the the Union cause. It's this erasure of history in the cause of political conformity, and especially the villianization of the southern soldier as purely bigoted in motive instead of a patriotism to what they deemed their nation at the time. Anyone who has read at all of Gen. Robert E. Lee would realize he was deeply principled and moral man, however, misbegotten his cause.
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It's lionizing the slavers, traitors, and losers of the Civil War.

The people you admire so much.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
It's lionizing the slavers, traitors, and losers of the Civil War.

The people you admire so much.
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Well, I don't see how loser is a moral measurement seeing how even had the south won and had been winners, they'd still have been slavers and traitors.

On second thought, even traitor is not necessarily a moral standard. After all, members of the German resistance to Nazi rule would have been traitors to the regime too. Sometimes committing treason could be the moral choice. But they're still slavers.
 
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