Alito Nomination May Bring Long-Anticipated Judiciary Fight

Reverend Blair

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Taking away a woman's right to choose and keeping the right to marriage are pretty much all that matter to the radical right when it comes to the legal system in the US, Henry. Oh, and they like to try to destroy the separation of church and state too.
 

Nascar_James

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Reverend Blair said:
Taking away a woman's right to choose and keeping the right to marriage are pretty much all that matter to the radical right when it comes to the legal system in the US, Henry. Oh, and they like to try to destroy the separation of church and state too.

Not so Rev. Here in the US, those of us on the moderate right, including the President value "innocent" human life. Considering that unborn babies have absoultely no defense and as such we must do whatever we legally can to save them. The position of the Canadian government on the other hand is disturbing. Martin et Al would rather kill an innocent unborn baby than execute a convicted murderer. What kind of society are we living in when giving convicted murderers the right of life over unborn babies. It is truly mentally disturbing.

As for the seperation of church and state ... as I've stated numerous times, the current Pledge Of Allegiance refers to God ...

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Show me where within our constitution does it say that we must seperate church and state? It says no such thing. We are a nation under God.
 

Reverend Blair

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The Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional in its current form, Nero. I provided plenty of proof to you on other threads that you have your head jammed completely up your ass when it comes to the separation of church and state.

The Canadian government has no position on abortion. It is a matter between a woman and her doctor.
 

Nascar_James

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Reverend Blair said:
The Canadian government has no position on abortion. It is a matter between a woman and her doctor.

What are you saying Rev? The Liberal party policy is to support women's access to abortions. I know this for a fact.
 

Jo Canadian

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Nascar_James

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Looks like our future Supreme Court justice, Samuel Alito is indeed a moderate mainstream individual, just as I had suspected. Can't wait for the confirmation hearings to see Alito outmaneuver the Democrats in their questioning. I mean Alito's forgotten more than some of those Democrats know. We'll need to wait till january 9th of next year thou.

Read on ...

Alito Is Mainstream

AP Associated Press:

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent
1 hour, 51 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito's opinions on abortion, discrimination and other contentious issues are the work of a mainstream jurist, not the ideologue depicted by critics, the White House argues in a voluminous briefing book meant for Republican senators.

Alito's dissent in a 1991 abortion ruling showed "concern for the safety of women," the material says. By approving a requirement for spousal notification, he "reflected the position advanced by the Democratic governor of Pennsylvania."

A 1996 dissent in a sex discrimination case in which Alito sided with the employer shows he "simply questioned the wisdom of a 'blanket rule'" on dismissing such complaints before trial, in the White House view.

Bush nominated Alito, a judge on the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, to succeed retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. Confirmation hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee are scheduled to begin Jan. 9.

O'Connor often has cast the swing vote on 5-4 rulings on abortion and other issues, highlighting the importance of Alito's nomination for conservative groups eager to usher in a new era at the court and for liberals who charge Alito would push it sharply to the right.

The White House compilation systematically lays out anticipated criticism of Alito on abortion, free speech, civil rights, religious liberties and other topics, then counters them in language that senators or other supporters might use in public. The bulk of the material is made up of legal citations.

Administration aides distributed their research in senior Republican aides on the Judiciary Committee in a White House meeting within hours of Alito's appointment on Oct. 31.

Many of the same committee aides strongly opposed Harriet Miers' nomination to the court, and the White House was forced to spend hours trying to prevent their views from coloring the impressions of GOP senators. Miers, the White House counsel, withdrew her nomination 10 days ago, leading to Alito's nomination.

The Associated Press obtained a copy of the "Judge Samuel A. Alito Briefing Binder," which runs roughly 600 pages.

In the case most frequently cited by critics who say he would roll back abortion rights, Alito is described as mindful of the trouble his view could cause women who seek abortions despite their husbands' objections.

"The plight of any women, no matter how few, who may suffer physical abuse or other harm as a result of this provision is a matter of grave concern," he wrote in his dissent.

Even so, he supported the requirement, arguing that whether the state legislature's approach was sound policy "is not a question for us to decide."

Alito's position was rejected by colleagues on the 3rd Circuit as well as the Supreme Court.

The briefing book casts such opinions as a "restrained approach to judging and his adherence to the rule of law," and says it showed Alito struggling conscientiously to apply precedent.

On workplace discrimination, the material says, "Judge Alito has rejected a one-size-fits-all approach."

Apart from the case in which Alito sided with the company while the court ruled for the employee, the White House summarized five other cases in which he joined unanimous decisions favoring employees alleging workplace discrimination or harassment.

The White House also says that Alito has operated within Supreme Court precedents on states' rights and congressional power.

On the issue of free speech, White House officials sought to rebut what they called the allegation that Alito "is an ideological conservative who would be too deferential to the government and do too little to protect the First Amendment right to free speech."

Officials cited Alito's opinion in the 2001 case of Saxe v. State College Area School District. In the unanimous ruling, the 3rd Circuit struck down a school's anti-harassment policy, saying it was a violation of the free speech clause in the First Amendment.

A group of students who identified themselves as Christians had challenged the policy, saying their religion teaches them that homosexuality is a sin and they believe "they have a right to speak out about the sinful nature and harmful effects of homosexuality."

The White House cited Alito's opinion in a unanimous ruling in 2004 that struck down a Pennsylvania law prohibiting student newspapers from running advertisements for alcohol.

"If government were free to suppress disfavored speech by preventing potential speakers from being paid, there would not be much left of the First Amendment," Alito wrote.

The White House cited three cases in trying to deflect criticism that Alito, as a former prosecutor, had not been sufficiently protective of Fourth Amendment safeguards against unreasonable searches.

For example, in 1998, Alito wrote an opinion overturning the conviction of a man charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm, saying police lacked justification to stop and search the man before his arrest. In this case, police stopped the man, who was driving a black Nissan, after hearing reports that two black males driving a black sports car, possibly a Camaro, had committed a series of robberies.

Alito wrote for the court that the officer lacked "probable cause to arrest any black male who happened to drive by in a black sports car."

The White House cited two cases in trying to undermine criticism that Alito "is a doctrinaire conservative who is unconcerned with racial justice."

In one, from 1994, Alito wrote for the court that a prosecutor did not act improperly in ruling out jurors because they could speak Spanish and might dispute official translations and unduly influence juror deliberations.

The decision was criticized by language-rights activists and criminal defense lawyers, but the White House stressed that the court was unanimous and that the Supreme Court declined to review it.

The discussion of race makes no mention of Alito's 2001 dissent in the case of a black death row inmate who argued that prosecutors had improperly challenged black jurors. The defendant had used statistical evidence, and Alito wrote, "Suppose we ask our 'amateur with a pocket calculator' whether the American people take right- or left-handedness into account in choosing their presidents."
 

unclepercy

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Semperfi_dani said:
I am going to suggest that the Harriet Meirs nomination was a ploy. They knew a snowball in hell would have a better chance, but what better way to get the guy you want by nominating a contriversial candidate in the first place? Than when they get rejected, you can nominate the person you really want that is less balanced and accuse the other side of partisan politics and holding up the process. Im just speculation of course....

Hey, hey! I suggested the very same idea on 10-27-05:

Harriet Miers was a victim of reciprocity. I knew it was coming.
First, in the power struggle, you offer something unacceptable,
and then you offer the thing you really wanted in the first place.
The other party feels obligated to be fairer the second time around, and the original person gets what they wanted. Let's see who that is.


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And I got shot down - Rev said that Harriet Miers was not a victim of reciprocity - but Bush chose her based on cronyism.

Hard Luck said this: I don't think so, percy - the President's choice was forced to back down because of objections from within his own party.

I agree with you, but I don't think anyone else does.

Percy
 

peapod

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Well its just a theory uncle, but considering how bush and cohorts operate, sounds like a good one.
 

Nascar_James

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Jo Canadian said:

Ahh ... I cannot wait till next year for the confirmation hearings. I'm waiting to see how he shows up the Democrats in their line of questioning. He obviously knows what their main focus will be ... abortion. Judge Alito will no doubt get confirmed. Cakewalk.
 

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Nascar_James said:
Jo Canadian said:

Ahh ... I cannot wait till next year for the confirmation hearings. I'm waiting to see how he shows up the Democrats in their line of questioning. He obviously knows what their main focus will be ... abortion. Judge Alito will no doubt get confirmed. Cakewalk.

if this is a shoe in..........what is there to discuss??? If his values (ethical and legal)represent the majority in the US.......that alone speaks volumes..
 

Jay

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Nascar_James said:
He obviously knows what their main focus will be ... abortion.

When isn't it?
 

Hard-Luck Henry

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Supreme Court nominee Samuel A. Alito Jr. once argued that the nation's top law enforcement official deserves blanket protection from lawsuits when acting in the name of national security, even when those actions involve the illegal wiretapping of American citizens, documents released yesterday show.

As a lawyer in the Reagan Justice Department, Alito said the attorney general must be free to take steps to protect the country from threats such as terrorism and espionage without fear of personal liability. But in a 1984 memo involving a case that dated to the Nixon administration, Alito also cautioned his superiors that the time may not be right to make that argument and urged a more incremental approach.

"I do not question that the Attorney General should have this immunity," Alito wrote. "But for tactical reasons, I would not raise the issue here."

To date, much of the debate involving Alito's nomination has centered on his views on abortion. The latest of Alito's memos to be disclosed opened a window on his thinking in the area of national security vs. privacy rights, an issue that is currently under considerable scrutiny.

The release of the memo comes as President Bush is under attack for launching a secret National Security Agency program to bypass the courts and eavesdrop on the overseas telephone calls and e-mail of U.S. citizens with suspected ties to terrorists. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) has said he will press Alito for his views on that subject when the panel opens confirmation hearings Jan. 9.

Democrats were quick to link the issues yesterday, saying Alito's memo raises questions about his commitment to protecting civil liberties by checking executive power. The type of absolute immunity that Alito discussed would have shielded attorneys general even when their actions violated constitutional rights.


From The Washington Post (You will need to register read the whole article).
 

jimmoyer

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This issue of the Alito Supreme Court nomination
gives rise again to what we think of abortion and
civil liberty.

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This argument over abortion is often dismissed
by the Left as shallow and co-opting the center
stage from other important issues.

While the Left is correct about that, they fail to
see how this issue has importance in a futuristic way.

The only safeguard to our humanity is what we
do with our babies.

Do we find it necessary to kill the unborn if the
ultra sound and all the other tests show a disease,
a deformity, an illness that is an unnecessary burden
to parents and society?

It may well be that although the absolutes of
morality never disappear, the abhorrent
idea of the Nazis and the Master Race
will reappearr as the
population explosion threatens our entire survival ?


In the end, I think both sides of this issue are
right and wrong and this issue will bedevil us more
and more and more into the future.

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And then the other issue is security and civil liberty.

Both are two sides of the same seesaw.

This too will bedevil us more and more into the
future as terrorism creates a police state and as
the police state creates terrorism.

And by the way there will always be a rebel
to whatever society creates.

The laws of the universe dictate for every action
there is a reaction, if not equal or greater, causing
a chain of events defying all political debate.

What to do ?

The truth is always in the process, in the argument,
not the answer.

So fight as we must metaphorically or physically,
we will struggle and in the struggle is life and the truth
and this is our nature.

Consult one of the forerunners to Karl Marx ----
Hegel and his Dialectical Materialism.