Alberta Surplus

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Alberta Surplus

Except I remember reading about a report that said that Alberta will have extracted most of it's oil within 25 years.

Yeah...but by then each and every voter in Alberta will have received upwards of 10 grand...so what's the feckin' worry?

 

[Jo Canadian]

 

[Jo Canadian]

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

funny cartoon

 

[Nascar_James]

That is a good one Jo Canadian. I'll bet not many folks will turn away a no-strings attached check from the Alberta govn't. If anybody does, I would surely like to meet that individual. Seems when it come down to $$$, everyone embraces economic conservatism instead of govn't spending.

 

[Jo Canadian]

Yeah, I could use the money now...But I've moved.

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

for me a 400$ check in the mail if fine I mean I wont complain, but I just think we can save the billion or so and spend it other ways...... such as a new home for the Edmonton Oilers and a new Football stadium for the Stampeders. These are things that will last and we will always remember.

 

[Jo Canadian]

Re: RE: Alberta Surplus

such as a new home for the Edmonton Oilers .....

:lol: Are you sure we need to do that?? I had to walk through a neighbourhood in the wolfwillow area to go to work and the houses the residing oilers there had were HUGE and cars (as in plural) were no less impressive. :? I think they have enough money if you ask me.

 

[spidercide]

What Ralphy is doing is buying votes.

Meanwhile, he is doing his best to screw universal medicare in the province.

No, little socialist....he is giving us back our money. Would be nice if the Fed's gave us back the billions they rob too.

Oh and last I checked Alberta wasn't the one that went to court to open up the private side. Alberta is the only province that actually has a bill ensuring that the spirit of Universal health care is obeyed. Money does not dictate care. There is a reason that the best and brightest for both nuero, heart and children care are all coming to Alberta from Quebec(lucrative private clinics), Ontario(supposed high standard of living) and States(well hell, it is the states...nothing but evil money grubbers right).

Ever notice how they never! never! give a rats ass about anything but themselves or money! They are the most dis-tasteful blight I have ever seen.

Yeah, that why Ralph and most papers in Alberta were the only ones(outside of Manitoba) that advocated for Newfoundland to keep the transfer payments and ALL of their resource revenue until their economy took off.

Cause all we care about is ourselves.
You have a problem with revenues coming into our province from gambling. Last I checked this is a legal pastime(lucrative too) Unlike BC's economy, which is heavily subsidized by the drug trade.
Pot growers bring more into your economy than forestry does. (Stascan)

And yeah, Ralph has made some blunders when advocating for companies, but no worse than your premier advocating for the super-ferries. Those were the ones that were destroying the enviro right, how much was wasted on that. Thyey are mothballed now, right?

I used to work all through BC in construction through the late 80's early 90's. Want to talk about people that only care about money and themselves, take a look at your unions and NDP governments. Hypocrites.

 

[spidercide]

Re: RE: Alberta Surplus

for me a 400$ check in the mail if fine I mean I wont complain, but I just think we can save the billion or so and spend it other ways...... such as a new home for the Edmonton Oilers and a new Football stadium for the Stampeders. These are things that will last and we will always remember.

You fail to mention though that we are already spending another 25-26 Billion on other things.
Other people on here have also talked about how we are not getting our taxes from the energy sector. One thing to remember, that is only until they have their construction cost back)oilsands plants), approx 6 years. In 6 years what do you think the price of oil will be then.

So, in six years...we get even more money coming in every year, we still have no deficit and we have rebuilt the infrastructure. Better to have the precedence of the extra cash going back to Albertans than leaving it there for the Feds and other provinces that just get fat off the public teat.

 

[Gonzo]

Whats the minimum wage in Alberta? Instead of sending a $400 check why not raise the minimum wage?
I think it's time for a national energy plan. If you are lucky enough to be a part of Canada you need to look out for Canadians first. If Alberta didn't have oil they'd be whining to Ottawa for money.

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

"So, in six years...we get even more money coming in every year, we still have no deficit and we have rebuilt the infrastructure. Better to have the precedence of the extra cash going back to Albertans than leaving it there for the Feds and other provinces that just get fat off the public teat."

You make a very good point.....we have to make sure the feds do not get their hands on this surplus. And yes for years and years and years there will be a bigger and bigger surplus. As the population grows the infastructure will need revamping so I am very glad we are spending money there now... its the right investment.

damn there is enough oil in Alberta today to feed all of North America for approx 50 years without any foreign consumption.

Anyways I was jsut thinking that in our first Debt free years we could build some state of the art stadiums..... courtest of the Alberta govt. But don't get me wrong Spidercide the checks are a welcome sight.

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

"Whats the minimum wage in Alberta? Instead of sending a $400 check why not raise the minimum wage? "

..........We just raised the minimum wage as of september 1st to $7 and hour.

"I think it's time for a national energy plan. If you are lucky enough to be a part of Canada you need to look out for Canadians first. If Alberta didn't have oil they'd be whining to Ottawa for money."

.....geez my friend do you know anything about Treudau's NEP. Do you know how it affected Alberta? I suggest you read up on it before making ignorant comments like that. This is provincial jurisdiction and it is protected

By the way if that happens there will be no Alberta Canada, it will be the Republic of Alberta.

 

[mrmom2]

With assholes like you guys I say see ya fecking later .None of you know how to drive anyways Why don't you all take a fecking hike back to your shit board and leave us the feck alone .Or are ya to bored over there :lol:

 

[Reverend Blair]

Ah, you know how it is, Mom...they're still upset about the NEP. Nevermind that it gave them a guaranteed market for their oil, that federal subsidies have been flowing in ever since, or that the rest of Canada paid to get the oil sands off the ground. These are people who expect you to invest in them but don't you deserve a return on that investment.

Let 'em separate though. You think they feel hard done by now, just wait until they are a tiny state in a country ten times the size. BTW, the US has a national energy program just like every other industrialised country on the planet except for Canada.

 

[Gordon J Torture]

These cheques will mean some people can pay their heating bills

I can't wait for my cheque.

Some in Alberta will have no heat in their homes untill they get this money, because of increasing utility prices which are causing an inability for many to afford the basic necessities of life.

Many will use that money to get basic services hooked back up, or perhaps even to pay the ridiculous price of rent on time this month.

Many people in Alberta wiill be recieving an undeserved small gift of cash, while many others, a life sustaining patronization.

It's a pathetic insulting handout, for many desperate Albertans who owe much more than $400 in outstanding electric and gas bills alone, with an Alberta winter nearing.

If the money was to be given out at all, it should have been divided amungst those who make under a certain amount per year, which would have increased the amount of money per person and assured the money was used for necessities and not luxuries.

Oh, I can't wait for my cheque

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

Gordon Torture there are poor people in every province...........and don't forget the unemployment rate here is the lowest in the nation.......... the needey people in Quebec and Ontario will not receive any cheques from the provincial govt....

so yea sure for some its nothing while for others its a godsend. Maybe the people living in poverty should of gotten bigger cheques... i don't know.

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

Gordon Torture there are poor people in every province...........and don't forget the unemployment rate here is the lowest in the nation.......... the needey people in Quebec and Ontario will not receive any cheques from the provincial govt....

so yea sure for some its nothing while for others its a godsend. Maybe the people living in poverty should of gotten bigger cheques... i don't know.

 

[Gordon J Torture]

Gordon Torture there are poor people in every province...........and don't forget the unemployment rate here is the lowest in the nation.......... the needey people in Quebec and Ontario will not receive any cheques from the provincial govt....

True however, the unemployed in many other provinces live better than many workers in Alberta. It's ridiculous. Many full time jobs here pay barely enough to pay rent, even in a single bedroom apartment in the worst end of town, and gas and electricity, are two things that are becomming increasingly common to be shut off because of their price! On top of that, the cost of security deposits are made impossible for many workers to produce for the re-connection of heat ... gas and electricity.

Compared to other provinces I have lived in, including B.C. and Ontario, Alberta's treatment of the "lower class" is simply inhumane.

 

[Gonzo]

Wow! 7 dollars an hour. How much has a CEO's sallery gone up in the last 10 year?
The only thing that went wrong with Trudeaus NEP is that energy prices fell.