Alberta Surplus

peapod

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:roll: :roll: :roll: I am not attacking alberta, you do not speak for alberta, you are a part of a fringe group. You use the same tatic that bush supporters use. You come here and brag and rant about how RICH alberta is, how everything is hunky dory. You have the same problems all other provinces have in this country of canada. You try to hide them and pretend they do not exist, while many albertians suffer. You don't talk about them do you!!!! No all you talk about is yur money, its my candy, all my candy..whaaaaaaaaa! yur daddy should have whooped your ass, more often.
 

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Albertas unemployment rate is 3.9% now. Went up a touch from 3.6%

In the last 12 months, British Columbia has seen employment increase by 3.4 per cent, the best showing of any province.

Abbotsfords, Saskatoons and Victoria's unemployment rate is lower than Edmontons. Victorias is only .02 higher than Calgary.



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Nascar_James

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Re: RE: Alberta Surplus

Hank C Cheyenne said:
Really I never heard about the US government cutting checks 5 or 6 years ago. However I remember hearing a few years back that Alaska cut its residents like $800 cheques.

It was about 4 or 5 years ago. Us married folks received a $600 check. The single folks got $300.
 

Nascar_James

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peapod said:
:roll: :roll: :roll: I am not attacking alberta, you do not speak for alberta, you are a part of a fringe group. You use the same tatic that bush supporters use. You come here and brag and rant about how RICH alberta is, how everything is hunky dory. You have the same problems all other provinces have in this country of canada. You try to hide them and pretend they do not exist, while many albertians suffer. You don't talk about them do you!!!! No all you talk about is yur money, its my candy, all my candy..whaaaaaaaaa! yur daddy should have whooped your ass, more often.

Last I checked Peapod, Albertans always vote for the party on the right, so that eliminates the fringe group scenario up above. THis applies to both Federal and Provincial govn'ts.
 

Reverend Blair

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The Klein government paid off the provincial debt on the backs of the poor. Now they are getting rich on the backs of the poor. They are, for want of a better word, scum.

While Klein and lunatic supporters are chanting, "Greed is good," like a bunch of lobotimised cult members, real people are suffering and dying. Why? Well let's consider.

Alberta is tied with Ontario for the highest drop-out rate. Ontario reached those numbers under Harris, another hateful neo-con, but the Liberal government is trying to fix the problem now. Alberta's rate will remain high because fixing the problem will require funding.

Alberta is trying to privatise health care. They can certainly afford public health care, but Ralphie can't give any kick-backs to his corporate pals in a public system.

Ralphie negotiated the worst deal on the planet with his oil-patch buddies. Alberta could have far more money, but Ralphie thought it was far more important to make the oil companies happy.
 

#juan

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As someone said,

this four hundred dollars will be gone and forgotten in a week or two but that money could have gone a long way to solve Alberta medicare problems. I can't see this money gift helping the economy much because, like B.C., there is almost no unemployment. Some of the money could have been used for scholarships. This is obvious vote buying in a province who's oil resources have made provincial governments look good for a couple of decades.
 

Steve French

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Good for them.
EVERY province should be debt free, and there is no good reason why the feds shouldn't be debt free as well since they don't really do anything except steal our money and redistribute it among themselves. At least the provinces provide some actual useful services that people need. Running up these massive debts, especially the national debt is simple exploitation and oppression of generations not-yet-born.
We should be forcing these lying bastard politicians/parasites to live within the limits of what we, the host body can provide.
 

no1important

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As a matter of fact, the state of Alaska pays its citizens. No strings attached. Sign a form swearing you lived in Alaska the past calendar year and, come October, the state sends you a check. Last year, every Alaskan-children, too-received $1,107.56.

The largest check, in 2000, was $1,963.86. Those who have lived here since the payouts began in 1982 have padded their bank accounts with $21,902.29.
 

peapod

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For feck sakes! is every neocon man a whining wanker 8O Feck me! do you cry when someone catch's a bigger fish than you do to. Your premier is a low life scum bag, just like the low life liberal scum bag premier in my province.
Neocons are not conservatives either!!! They have destroyed the conservative party, the only conservative I see at this board is MMM mike, ergo not a bad read.
 

#juan

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EVERY province should be debt free, and there is no good reason why the feds shouldn't be debt free as well since they don't really do anything except steal our money and redistribute it among themselves. At least the provinces provide some actual useful services that people need. Running up these massive debts, especially the national debt is simple exploitation and oppression of generations not-yet-born.

No doubt Steve, but maybe you should find out which federal government ran up the majority of the debt and go after them.
 

Reverend Blair

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You can't really go after the man responsible for that, Juan. He's locked himself in a dark room to pout because somebody wrote a book about him. ;-)

The really funny thing about this Alberta surplus is how they've been playing it up as such a positive thing. Has anybody done the math on what the surplus could have been if Ralphie had swung an oil deal that was as good Libya's?

Albertans should be going after Ralphie because his incompetence is costing them billions, not celebrating because he mailed them a $400 cheque while cutting the programs they depend on.
 

#juan

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God Rev,

every time I hear about what a friggin genius Ralphy is for balancing the budget and doing such a good job I want to throw up. Mortimer Snurd could balance the budget in Alberta.
 

Reverend Blair

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I know, it's like saying somebody worked really hard to win the lottery. The thing is that Ralphie has been squandering those lottery winnings.
 

nickelcity

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I'm spending my $400 on booze and gambling. My wife is buying an IPOD. Any albertan can spend their portion of the provincial budget how they want, education, healthcare, infrustructure...
 

Hank C Cheyenne

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I believe it was Trudeau and Mulroney who ran up the nation debt. I think it was at like 20 mill and when Tredeau got done with it it was over 200 mill.
Anywhays its great to see how you all come attacking the province but w/e.
I believe that the "prosperity cheques" would be best spent on something Alberta can rememeber not just a 1 time cheque. Seeing as how billions are already being spent on infastructure, maybe an oil refinery in Alberta would benefit all of Canada? Or new Stadiums for Edmonton or Calgary? Eleminating health care premiums would be nice too. Cant all be done right now but future surpluses should be larger.
I also believe that public and private health care has a future in the province. One only has to look at far superior health care in european countries why use both systems. (idiots look the the American system for reaffirmation of anti private health care)

And Nascar you are correct that the province tends to be right of center. I believe there has not been a liberal provincial govn't here since 1950's, and federally Albertans tend to be more economically/ and socially conservative.
 

Steve French

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No doubt Steve, but maybe you should find out which federal government ran up the majority of the debt and go after them.//

Uh, no.
I am way too smart to buy into your retarded lib/con fake dichotomy that doesn't really exist so peddle crap to somebody else.
 

Hank C Cheyenne

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Even if in 20 years non fossil fuels comes into play, there still will always be a market for oil. Look at how fast consumption is growing especially in CHina and India. Even here in North America I don't see oil becoming obsolete in the next 20 years. Plus oil is used for alot more than producing gasoline.

I believe that Alberta has enough oil to feed North America for 50 years without touching a drop of foreign oil. This is great, the only problem would be with us not being able to pump it out fast enough.
 

Tresson

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Re: RE: Alberta Surplus

Hank C Cheyenne said:
Even if in 20 years non fossil fuels comes into play, there still will always be a market for oil. Look at how fast consumption is growing especially in CHina and India. Even here in North America I don't see oil becoming obsolete in the next 20 years. Plus oil is used for alot more than producing gasoline.

I believe that Alberta has enough oil to feed North America for 50 years without touching a drop of foreign oil. This is great, the only problem would be with us not being able to pump it out fast enough.

Except I remember reading about a report that said that Alberta will have extracted most of it's oil within 25 years.