Alberta passes .05% law that was just declared unconstitutional in BC

[JLM]

I find it interesting how quickly our fundamental system of justice can be tossed aside by people for the sake of convenience.

Very good point! I think our fundamental sytem got started centuries ago and conditions were different and like everything else in life some changes need to be made, like tweaking, not necessarily making the system worse but just more workable. When the system was first started it was done so at a time when there were less investigational devices like cameras, breathalyzers, tape recorders etc. etc. etc. I would say more than the "sake of convenience", it is the lack of money. Our justice system today simply isn't working.

 

[Cannuck]

24hr roadsise suspension. It's already being done in SK and other Provinces.

Really? I've not heard of a single case of a parent that has been up all night having their license suspended.

 

[petros]

I never knew they made headlines out of that?

Ever seen a cop on a snowmobile pull a drunk over on a snowmobile or cop in a boat pull over drunks in a boat? I have several times but it's never made the news either

 

[Cannuck]

I never knew they made headlines out of that?

I'm pretty sure it would make headlines.

 

[JLM]

Just ban all alcohol consumption except that prescribed by a physician.

Problem solved on the legal front. Then all you have to do is enforce it.

Sounds good but for two reasons.................don't enact laws that can't be enforced and there is always an exception to every rule. You could also achieve the same end by banning all vehicles. :lol:

 

[petros]

I'm pretty sure it would make headlines.

Why? It's not like the world is ending.

 

[Cannuck]

You could also achieve the same end by banning all vehicles.

I'm surprised you aren't advocating that. Think of how many lives would be saved, especially young innocent ones.

For gawd sakes let's think of the children.

 

[JLM]

I guess there is one other solution having all cars equipped with a breathlyzer that only unlocks the ignition after you blow and then only at an acceptable level. :smile:

 

[Cannuck]

Why? It's not like the world is ending.

Since when does the world have to end to make headlines?

Calgary Sun

No real earth shattering news here.

I guess I require some proof before I would believe it happened even once and obviously it isn't happening on a regular basis.

 

[petros]

Call a cop shop in SK and ask. Want the number for F Division?

6101 Dewdney Avenue
Box 2500
Regina
S4P 3K7

(306) 780-5560

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I believe the solution is to hand out a 12 hour hour suspension to anybody that is believed to be impaired for whatever reason. This suspension should not be public record and ones insurance company should not have access to this info. It should carry no punishment whatsoever except for the inconvenience that comes with the license suspension . If it is believed the the impairment is significant enough to warrant criminal charges then arrest the driver and process him/her like any other suspected criminal. This would provide balance between safer roads and the concept of due process.

As hard as this is to believe, I actually agree with Cannuck on this.

 

[petros]

You mean the way a 24hr is dealt with but 12hrs shorter?

 

[JLM]

You mean the way a 24hr is dealt with but 12hrs shorter?

Yep, beat the perpetrator with an even softer noodle! :lol:

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

You mean the way a 24hr is dealt with but 12hrs shorter?

I think the key sticking point for me is that here in Ontario they call your insurance company. So here I am not legally impaired, but an offficer passes this judgement suspends me for 24 hours and contacts my insurance company. I'm not sure what the insurance rates are like in SK, but we have the highest rates here. They are nothing short of bandits, salivating at the prospect of raising rates.

 

[TenPenny]

I'm pretty sure it would make headlines.

It does, it has.

Many times.

Dustin Byfuglien Arrested on Allegations of Drunk Boating | ChrisD.ca

 

[petros]

I think the key sticking point for me is that here in Ontario they call your insurance company. So here I am not legally impaired, but an offficer passes this judgement suspends me for 24 hours and contacts my insurance company. I'm not sure what the insurance rates are like in SK, but we have the highest rates here. They are nothing short of bandits, salivating at the prospect of raising rates.

I pay around $1600 a year for my 2012 truck with a $100 deductable using my 20% "excellent driver" discount.

 

[TenPenny]

I pay around $1600 a year for my 2012 truck with a $100 deductable using my 20% "excellent driver" discount.

I pay about $1000 / year for my Outback.

 

[JLM]

I think the key sticking point for me is that here in Ontario they call your insurance company. So here I am not legally impaired, but an offficer passes this judgement suspends me for 24 hours and contacts my insurance company. I'm not sure what the insurance rates are like in SK, but we have the highest rates here. They are nothing short of bandits, salivating at the prospect of raising rates.

Would this be any different from other ways in which insurance works? In virtually all types of insurance we are categorized in groups according to our behaviour, lifestyles etc. :smile:

 

[Cannuck]

Really? I've not heard of a single case of a parent that has been up all night having their license suspended.

It does, it has.

Many times.

Dustin Byfuglien Arrested on Allegations of Drunk Boating | ChrisD.ca

Let's try and follow the conversation N'kay

 

[captain morgan]

Just ban all alcohol consumption except that prescribed by a physician.

Problem solved on the legal front. Then all you have to do is enforce it.

All that the local pubs and bars have to do is apply for the same license as INSITE. Perhaps they too can get their annual operating costs subsidized by the tax payer