Alberta looking for federal GUBMINT money

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Alberta’s United Conservative Party to apply for federal emergency wage subsidy program

According to the UCP, it is applying for the program to cover employees’ salaries as donations to the party have dwindled due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

“As we had previously noted, our fundraising opportunities have been restricted during the pandemic and we have lost fundraising events in our 2020 calendar due to the restrictions on gatherings,” UCP director of communications Evan Menzies said in a statement to Global News.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6978893/ucp-federal-emergency-wage-subsidy/
 

Hoid

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everybody is looking for federal government money.

without it Canada would be DOA already.

all those decades of profiteering in natural resources? Gone. Nobody saved anything I guess.

modern business is about keeping your debt as high as you possibly can and syphoning all the money to the boards of directors. Look at Hertz. A perfect case in point. $17 billion in debt and the CEO pulls hte plug on 10s of thousands of employees while taking a $9 million payoff for her outstanding work.
 

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Also the Mayor of Edmonton is looking for some federal bailout loot. The city is hurting for cash and the provincial big wheels are too busy with their anti-oil war room expenses to help them out.

Toronto/Montreal/Vancouver and all the lesser cities will need cash and lots of it.

Help us, Big Liberal government!!

Nobody can save us but you!
 

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Also the Mayor of Edmonton is looking for some federal bailout loot. The city is hurting for cash and the provincial big wheels are too busy with their anti-oil war room expenses to help them out.

Toronto/Montreal/Vancouver and all the lesser cities will need cash and lots of it.

Help us, Big Liberal government!!

Nobody can save us but you!




WE WOULD NOT NEED govt aid if LIE-berals HAD DONE THEIR JOB and used TRADITIONAL LAWS and sound medical


practices TO PROTECT US EARLY ON - from the Wuhan Pestilence!


As for SAVING MONEY - WHAT PRICE NOW from that FOUR YEAR NDPee Rachel Notley spending binge in Alberta?


What price the ONGOING LIE-beral / NDPee spree in B.C.?


And what of Ontari-owe after 15 years of Wynne-bag LIE-beral debauchery that turned our province into the MOST INDEBTED


SUB NATIONAL POLITICAL ENTITY ON THE PLANET -by DOUBLING OUR DEBT -even as the number of drug addicts and



poverty stricken food bank users soared - and LIE-berals ASSURED US our economy was BOOMING!


And what price the federal LIE-beral ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS IN NEW DEBT that was run up by Our idiot Boy


between 2015 and 2019 - BEFORE Wuhan Virus appeared!


As for all the Cdn cities in need of cash - what price NOW the recent City of Toronto GRAVY GRAB for its civil service union HOGS!


Yes! TORONTO HOG GOT A NEW CONTRACT AND MORE GRAVY even as the Wuhan Pestilence RAMPED UP


and produced dozens of CORPSES in Toronto and GTA old folks homes and hospitals!


WHILE LIE-berals CRIED "RACIST" at those who wanted to QUARANTINE Travellers so they could not so easily spread the Pestilence!


LIE-berals have done such an amazing job of "closing the borders" and of "protecting us" that in April there were



TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND TRAVELLERS passing through our allegedly CLOSED airports!


If it is LIE-beral - then ITS LAME!



And hemerHOID is the MOST LAME of LIE-berals!
 

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Also the Mayor of Edmonton is looking for some federal bailout loot. The city is hurting for cash and the provincial big wheels are too busy with their anti-oil war room expenses to help them out.

Toronto/Montreal/Vancouver and all the lesser cities will need cash and lots of it.

Help us, Big Liberal government!!

Nobody can save us but you!



Pretty sad isn't it? Could it have been avoided? Besides, we've given so much it's about time we got some of it back!!
 

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Also the Mayor of Edmonton is looking for some federal bailout loot. The city is hurting for cash and the provincial big wheels are too busy with their anti-oil war room expenses to help them out.

Toronto/Montreal/Vancouver and all the lesser cities will need cash and lots of it.

Help us, Big Liberal government!!

Nobody can save us but you!

If only the mayor of Vancouver had the foresight to apply a Pandemic tax modeled after the hugely successful stop-global-warming-tax, Vancouver would be virus-free today and not having to declare bankruptcy.
 

Hoid

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Pretty sad isn't it? Could it have been avoided? Besides, we've given so much it's about time we got some of it back!!
Don't worry.

Big Liberal government will take care of everybody and everything.
 

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Trudie won't give one nickle to YVR until they accept and fast track all of the pipelines through BC.

Ironic, isn't it?


 

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Alberta’s United Conservative Party to apply for federal emergency wage subsidy program

According to the UCP, it is applying for the program to cover employees’ salaries as donations to the party have dwindled due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

“As we had previously noted, our fundraising opportunities have been restricted during the pandemic and we have lost fundraising events in our 2020 calendar due to the restrictions on gatherings,” UCP director of communications Evan Menzies said in a statement to Global News.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6978893/ucp-federal-emergency-wage-subsidy/






Oh dear me! LIE-berals have taken action to DESTROY Alberta and its oil industry and all those who in related industries!


And HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT than what LIE-beral Jean Chretien DID?


You recall him right?


The LIE-beral ASSHAT whose party got CAUGHT in that THREE BILLION DOLLAR ADSCAM THEFT


From the Human Resources Ministry!


And LIE-berals were SO HATED an their finances were SO BAD - that Chretien BANNED corporate donations to ANY federal party!


Because Conservatives were getting way more than LIE-berals ever could hope for!


Clearly DEMOCRACY AND PERSONAL CHOICE ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE TO LIE-berals!


JUST THINK how UNFAIR it was ti LIE-berals that the public HATED THEM and would not donate money!


So Chretien wrote a NEW LAW - COMPELLING Tax Payers to SUBSIDIZE all Political Parties!


Thus the LIE-beral party FORCED Cdns to supply the funds that LIE-berals needed to finance another election!


LIE-berals PICKED OUR POCKETS to pay for their election and in spite of dumping Chretien and replacing him with Mr Dithers -



AKA Paul Martin - the LIE-berals were defeated!


But LIE-beral SHAME knows few limits!



Eventually Our idiot Boy Justin managed to rehabilitate the LIE-beral party and get elected!


ONLY TO GET ENSNARED in the LAVALIN SCANDAL with its brIbery and corruption and ETHICS VIOLATIONS!


With the Prime Minister actually INTERFERING and CANCELLING A POLICE INVESTIGATION!


Just so he could SAVE VOTES for the LIE-beral party in Quebec!


And after ALL THAT LIE-beral CRAP - you want to compare LIE-berals to the Alberta UCP that LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY


STARVING - by destroying the Alberta provincial economy?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Ron in Regina

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everybody is looking for federal government money.

without it Canada would be DOA already.

all those decades of profiteering in natural resources? Gone. Nobody saved anything I guess
.

modern business is about keeping your debt as high as you possibly can and syphoning all the money to the boards of directors. Look at Hertz. A perfect case in point. $17 billion in debt and the CEO pulls hte plug on 10s of thousands of employees while taking a $9 million payoff for her outstanding work.

  1. In her May 19 comment responding to John Ivison, Elizabeth May attempts to reinforce her previous claims that investment in Canada’s oil industry is not worthwhile but investment in renewables is. Among other things, the Eco-Goblin argues that Canada’s oil industry makes only a small contribution to government revenues — though she does so by focusing on revenues generated in the years since 2015, when oil prices declined.
  2. Let’s look at the financial contribution of the oil and gas industry over a longer and more representative period. According to the Canadian Energy Centre, an Alberta crown corporation, between 2000 and 2018 Canada’s oil and gas production industry directly paid almost $240 billion to provincial governments and $66 billion to Ottawa. In addition, its employees paid another nearly $54 billion in federal and provincial taxes. According to Statistics Canada, from 2000 to 2018, the energy industries provided $65.9 billion in federal corporate taxes alone, more than banking ($60.9 billion), construction ($44.7 billion) and real estate ($44.6 billion).
  3. Ms. May notes that in recent years investment dollars have left the Canadian oil and gas industry so that the industry currently finds itself in difficult financial circumstances. But she fails to mention why the industry has fallen on hard times. Over the past three years, federal government decisions encouraged by environmental organizations like the one Ms. May leads were responsible for the loss of $32.5 billion of capital investment in oil pipelines that would have assured Canadian producers’ access to export markets — not to mention created 3,500 long-term jobs. Over that same period, $67 billion in capital investment in three liquified natural gas plants was foregone due to delays and opposition from the same groups. Earlier this year, the Teck Frontier oilsands mine, a $20-billion investment that would have provided 2,500 long-term jobs, was cancelled due to federal delays and procedural obstacles promoted and encouraged by environmental groups. From 2014 to 2018, Canadian producers of heavy crude oil lost $40 billion due to market discounts directly resulting from inadequate pipeline capacity.
  4. Taxes are making matters worse. Canadian oil producers now pay $30 per tonne on carbon dioxide emissions that competing energy producers in other countries don’t pay and the rate of tax is scheduled to continue increasing.
  5. The problems faced by the Canadian oil industry are not due to a lack of global demand. World oil demand grew by over one million barrels a day per year from 2012 to 2019 and is at its highest level in history — or at least was until the pandemic struck. Almost every other major oil-producing country has been able to benefit from this growth through increased investment and production and there is no good reason to think they won’t continue to do so after the coronavirus emergency passes. By contrast, investment in Canada’s industry has declined, largely because of government policies.
  6. To be sure, declining international crude prices have also reduced the funds available for investment in the Canadian industry. But investment has increased sharply elsewhere — the U.S., for instance — even as it has declined in Canada. It is not mainly the market that has harmed the oil and gas industry. It is Canada’s own citizens, including Ms. May and her followers.Activists contend that renewables offer the prospect of higher employment. But studies in the U.K., Germany and Spain show that, for every job created in the renewables industry, two to three are lost in other industries because of higher energy costs. Moreover, the manufacture of wind and solar equipment takes place in China and a few European countries, not Canada.
  7. Ms. May seems to think that governments should decide which energy industries will be the beneficiaries of additional investment, as if central planning were a wonderful new idea. Perhaps this is because the industries she favours, wind and solar, are uneconomic sources that cannot survive in the marketplace without subsidies. Support for the renewable energy industry runs the gamut from R&D assistance, to supply subsidies, to favourable regulations, to tax exemptions. According to a report from the United Nations Environment Program, from 2006 to 2017 nearly US$2.5 trillion was funnelled into government-mandated renewable energy investments worldwide. The public justification for such extensive, multi-faceted government support for renewable energy was that it would reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Yet, despite that monumental expense, from 2006 to 2017, global emissions increased almost 20 per cent. Renewables are just not worth it.
    Pretty sad isn't it? Could it have been avoided? Besides, we've given so much it's about time we got some of it back!!
    And regarding revenues to governments? Just try finding out how much the renewables industry pays in taxes. You can’t. Because it doesn’t.
    Don't worry.
Big Liberal government will take care of everybody and everything.
 

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  1. In her May 19 comment responding to John Ivison, Elizabeth May attempts to reinforce her previous claims that investment in Canada’s oil industry is not worthwhile but investment in renewables is. Among other things, the Eco-Goblin argues that Canada’s oil industry makes only a small contribution to government revenues — though she does so by focusing on revenues generated in the years since 2015, when oil prices declined.
  2. Let’s look at the financial contribution of the oil and gas industry over a longer and more representative period. According to the Canadian Energy Centre, an Alberta crown corporation, between 2000 and 2018 Canada’s oil and gas production industry directly paid almost $240 billion to provincial governments and $66 billion to Ottawa. In addition, its employees paid another nearly $54 billion in federal and provincial taxes. According to Statistics Canada, from 2000 to 2018, the energy industries provided $65.9 billion in federal corporate taxes alone, more than banking ($60.9 billion), construction ($44.7 billion) and real estate ($44.6 billion).
  3. Ms. May notes that in recent years investment dollars have left the Canadian oil and gas industry so that the industry currently finds itself in difficult financial circumstances. But she fails to mention why the industry has fallen on hard times. Over the past three years, federal government decisions encouraged by environmental organizations like the one Ms. May leads were responsible for the loss of $32.5 billion of capital investment in oil pipelines that would have assured Canadian producers’ access to export markets — not to mention created 3,500 long-term jobs. Over that same period, $67 billion in capital investment in three liquified natural gas plants was foregone due to delays and opposition from the same groups. Earlier this year, the Teck Frontier oilsands mine, a $20-billion investment that would have provided 2,500 long-term jobs, was cancelled due to federal delays and procedural obstacles promoted and encouraged by environmental groups. From 2014 to 2018, Canadian producers of heavy crude oil lost $40 billion due to market discounts directly resulting from inadequate pipeline capacity.
  4. Taxes are making matters worse. Canadian oil producers now pay $30 per tonne on carbon dioxide emissions that competing energy producers in other countries don’t pay and the rate of tax is scheduled to continue increasing.
  5. The problems faced by the Canadian oil industry are not due to a lack of global demand. World oil demand grew by over one million barrels a day per year from 2012 to 2019 and is at its highest level in history — or at least was until the pandemic struck. Almost every other major oil-producing country has been able to benefit from this growth through increased investment and production and there is no good reason to think they won’t continue to do so after the coronavirus emergency passes. By contrast, investment in Canada’s industry has declined, largely because of government policies.
  6. To be sure, declining international crude prices have also reduced the funds available for investment in the Canadian industry. But investment has increased sharply elsewhere — the U.S., for instance — even as it has declined in Canada. It is not mainly the market that has harmed the oil and gas industry. It is Canada’s own citizens, including Ms. May and her followers.Activists contend that renewables offer the prospect of higher employment. But studies in the U.K., Germany and Spain show that, for every job created in the renewables industry, two to three are lost in other industries because of higher energy costs. Moreover, the manufacture of wind and solar equipment takes place in China and a few European countries, not Canada.
  7. Ms. May seems to think that governments should decide which energy industries will be the beneficiaries of additional investment, as if central planning were a wonderful new idea. Perhaps this is because the industries she favours, wind and solar, are uneconomic sources that cannot survive in the marketplace without subsidies. Support for the renewable energy industry runs the gamut from R&D assistance, to supply subsidies, to favourable regulations, to tax exemptions. According to a report from the United Nations Environment Program, from 2006 to 2017 nearly US$2.5 trillion was funnelled into government-mandated renewable energy investments worldwide. The public justification for such extensive, multi-faceted government support for renewable energy was that it would reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Yet, despite that monumental expense, from 2006 to 2017, global emissions increased almost 20 per cent. Renewables are just not worth it.And regarding revenues to governments? Just try finding out how much the renewables industry pays in taxes. You can’t. Because it doesn’t.
lol I take it you are into quantity over quality
 

Ron in Regina

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lol I take it you are into quantity over quality
Just debating a point, & a picture speaks a 1000 words. I was looking for Quality but that come with quantity like Western Tax Dollars flowing to Ottawa.

"Alberta is looking for some of it's money back from Ottawa that it has massively paid out to the Fed's in the last two decades? Those Rat Bastards!!! How Dare They!! The Nerve of those Uppity Serfs.....& after all of the pipelines we've blocked and investment capital we've chased away with our bureaucratic bullshit? They should be grateful and quiet like good peasants should be."

That's what I'm hearing with this threat. Am I misunderstanding your position here?
 

Ron in Regina

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lol I take it you are into quantity over quality
You quoted the post. Did you read it?

According to the Canadian Energy Centre, an Alberta crown corporation, between 2000 and 2018 Canada’s oil and gas production industry directly paid almost $240 billion to provincial governments and $66 billion to Ottawa. In addition, its employees paid another nearly $54 billion in federal and provincial taxes. According to Statistics Canada, from 2000 to 2018, the energy industries provided $65.9 billion in federal corporate taxes alone, more than banking ($60.9 billion), construction ($44.7 billion) and real estate ($44.6 billion).
 

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I'll remember that the next time you go on a rant about how capitalism is the only way :)

From Ron's post:
between 2000 and 2018 Canada’s oil and gas production industry directly paid almost $240 billion to provincial governments and $66 billion to Ottawa. In addition, its employees paid another nearly $54 billion in federal and provincial taxes. According to Statistics Canada, from 2000 to 2018, the energy industries provided $65.9 billion in federal corporate taxes alone, more than banking ($60.9 billion), construction ($44.7 billion) and real estate ($44.6 billion).

Capitalism, more importantly, the oil industry provided this money and the Feds, right now, are only giving back a sliver of that money.


Perhaps you can quote the hard numbers of the cash that your precious Leftwaffe has contributed.
 

Ron in Regina

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From Ron's post:
between 2000 and 2018 Canada’s oil and gas production industry directly paid almost $240 billion to provincial governments and $66 billion to Ottawa. In addition, its employees paid another nearly $54 billion in federal and provincial taxes. According to Statistics Canada, from 2000 to 2018, the energy industries provided $65.9 billion in federal corporate taxes alone, more than banking ($60.9 billion), construction ($44.7 billion) and real estate ($44.6 billion).

Capitalism, more importantly, the oil industry provided this money and the Feds, right now, are only giving back a sliver of that money.


Perhaps you can quote the hard numbers of the cash that your precious Leftwaffe has contributed.
Might be easier to quote the amount of tax dollars paid into the Federal coffers by the renewable Windmill & Solar Panel & Electric Car industry as long as you only have to point out if its positive or negative.
 

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Let's see now - Big Oil has kicked in $66 billion over the last 18 years

Ottawa has spent about $145 billion in the last 2 months on covid.

Do you have the beginnings of a clue yet?