AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWER

[Johnny Utah]

Re: RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWER

in the last 10 years how many people are dead from islamic terrorist

1993 (Feb.): Bombing of World Trade Center (WTC); 6 killed.
1993 (Oct.): Killing of U.S. soldiers in Somalia.
1996 (June): Truck bombing at Khobar Towers barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killed 19 Americans.
1998 (Aug.): Bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania; 224 killed, including 12 Americans.
1999 (Dec.): Plot to bomb millennium celebrations in Seattle foiled when customs agents arrest an Algerian smuggling explosives into the U.S.
2000 (Oct.): Bombing of the USS Cole in port in Yemen; 17 U.S. sailors killed.
2001 (Sept.): Destruction of WTC; attack on Pentagon. Total dead 2,992.
2001 (Dec.): Man tried to denote shoe bomb on flight from Paris to Miami.
2002 (April): Explosion at historic synagogue in Tunisia left 21 dead, including 14 German tourists.
2002 (May): Car exploded outside hotel in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 14, including 11 French citizens.
2002 (June): Bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12.
2002 (Oct.): Boat crashed into oil tanker off Yemen coast, killing 1.
2002 (Oct.): Nightclub bombings in Bali, Indonesia, killed 202, mostly Australian citizens.
2002 (Nov.): Suicide attack on a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya, killed 16.
2003 (May): Suicide bombers killed 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
2003 (May): 4 bombs killed 33 people targeting Jewish, Spanish, and Belgian sites in Casablanca, Morocco.
2003 (Aug.): Suicide car-bomb killed 12, injured 150 at Marriott Hotel in Jakarta, Indonesia.
2003 (Nov.): Explosions rocked a Riyadh, Saudi Arabia housing compound, killing 17.
2003 (Nov.): Suicide car-bombers simultaneously attacked 2 synagogues in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 25 and injuring hundreds.
2003 (Nov.): Truck bombs detonated at London bank and British consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 26.
2004 (March): 10 bombs on 4 trains exploded almost simultaneously during the morning rush hour in Madrid, Spain, killing 202 and injuring more than 1,400.
2004 (May): Terrorists attacked Saudi oil company offices in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, killing 22.
2004 (June): Terrorists kidnapped and executed American Paul Johnson, Jr., in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
2004 (Sept.): Car bomb outside the Australian embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, killed 9.
2004 (Dec.): Terrorists entered the U.S. Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, killing 9 (including 4 attackers).
2005 (July): Bombs exploded on 3 trains and a bus in London, England, killing 52.
2005 (Oct.): 22 killed by 3 suicide bombs in Bali, Indonesia..
2005 (Nov.): 57 killed at 3 American hotels in Amman, Jordan..

These are Islamic Extremists Terrorist Attacks:
1977 (March 9) Muslim terror group seizes 3 buildings in Washington DC holding 134 people hostage for 2 days.
1979 (Feb 14) US Ambassador to Aphganistan, Adolph Dubs, is kidnapped and murdered by muslim extremists.
1983 (April 18 Suicide truck bomb kills 49 and injures 120+ at US embassy in Beirut.
1983 (Oct 23) 241 US servicemen killed when suicide truck bomb is driven into US marine barracks in Beirut.
1984 (March 16) CIA Beirut station chief, William Buckley, is kidnapped and murdered by muslim extremists.
1984 (Sept 20) Truck bomb explodes at US embassy annex in East Beirut.
23 people, including 2 US citizens killed and more than 60 injured.
1984 (Dec 3) Islamic Jihad hijacks A Kuwaiti airliner and kills 2 US representatives from USAID.
1985 (June 14) Hezzbollah terrorists hijack a TWA flight on its way to Rome. They beat and murder a US navy diver.
1986 (April 5) Bomb explodes in crowded disco in West Berlin, killing 3 including 2 US soldiers.
1988 (Dec 21) Pan Am flight 103 explodes as it flys over Lockerbie Scotland killing ALL 259 people on board and 11 people on the ground.
Islamists in Libya found responsible.


You forgot to add this attack to 1993:
1993 (Jan 25) gunman opens fire with an automatic weapon on employees waiting to enter CIA HQ's in Langley Virginia. 2 people killed and 3 wounded.
The Attacks from 1993-2005 are the work of Al Qaeda.

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWER

These are Islamic Extremists Terrorist Attacks:
1977 (March 9) Muslim terror group seizes 3 buildings in Washington DC holding 134 people hostage for 2 days.
1979 (Feb 14) US Ambassador to Aphganistan, Adolph Dubs, is kidnapped and murdered by muslim extremists.
1983 (April 18 Suicide truck bomb kills 49 and injures 120+ at US embassy in Beirut.
1983 (Oct 23) 241 US servicemen killed when suicide truck bomb is driven into US marine barracks in Beirut.
1984 (March 16) CIA Beirut station chief, William Buckley, is kidnapped and murdered by muslim extremists.
1984 (Sept 20) Truck bomb explodes at US embassy annex in East Beirut.
23 people, including 2 US citizens killed and more than 60 injured.
1984 (Dec 3) Islamic Jihad hijacks A Kuwaiti airliner and kills 2 US representatives from USAID.
1985 (June 14) Hezzbollah terrorists hijack a TWA flight on its way to Rome. They beat and murder a US navy diver.
1986 (April 5) Bomb explodes in crowded disco in West Berlin, killing 3 including 2 US soldiers.
1988 (Dec 21) Pan Am flight 103 explodes as it flys over Lockerbie Scotland killing ALL 259 people on board and 11 people on the ground.
Islamists in Libya found responsible.


You forgot to add this attack to 1993:
1993 (Jan 25) gunman opens fire with an automatic weapon on employees waiting to enter CIA HQ's in Langley Virginia. 2 people killed and 3 wounded.
The Attacks from 1993-2005 are the work of Al Qaeda.

Thankx.

 

[jimmoyer]

It's a riddle for you Aeon.

You can be right about all the Jew and American sin,
but you won't see it coming from another source.

 

[Jay]

We've finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism, and they don't want to fight it. They would, except it would put them on the same side as the United States.
Ann Coulter

 

[Curiosity]

Re: RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWER

It's a riddle for you Aeon.

You can be right about all the Jew and American sin,
but you won't see it coming from another source.

JimMoyer

I could be more personal than war and terrorism to Aeon - he may be more concerned about dying in poverty with AIDS.

 

[darkbeaver]

Re: RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWER

Going after the terrorist, is the same crap as we went after witches in the dark age, get real

Hehe you're equating social ignorance with global terrorism. Just when I thought this place couldn't get any funnier....ahh, funny. Whew.

Mogz, our rep from the Global Oil Protection Force, has made a funny,actually it's not social ignorance it's cult-ural ignorance that represents the threat to the global community our western culture no longer knows what it is, our ignorance of reality has allowed ones like you to believe in freemockracy and support its infestation of the rest of the planet. Unlike Aeon you can get funnier and you're really one of the funniest contributors at CanCon, I read everything you write and you are definately funny.
Have you got any funny storys about DU.

PS Thanks for you're tip.
:lol:

 

[jimmoyer]

Mr. Nunn, chairman of the board of trustees at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, says we appear to have forgotten the "devastating, world-changing impact of a nuclear [terrorist] attack. "If a 10-kiloton nuclear device goes off in Midtown Manhattan on a typical work day, it could kill more than half a million people," he explains. Ten kiloton is a plausible yield "for a crude terrorist bomb," according to Mr. Nunn.

Hauling that volume of explosives would require a freight train 100 cars long. As a nuclear bomb, it could easily fit on the back of a pickup truck.

Another Nunn scenario has a terrorist group with insider help acquiring a radiological source from an industrial or medical facility; say cesium-137 in the form of powdered cesium chloride. Conventional explosives are used to incorporate cesium into a "dirty bomb," then detonated in New York's financial district. A 60-square block area has to be evacuated. Millions flee the city in panic. Only two dozen are killed but billions of dollars of real estate is declared uninhabitable. Cleanup will take years -- and many more billions.

What interests bin Laden and Zawahri beyond casualty lists is collateral damage to civil liberties, privacy and the world economy. America, as they see it, would be knocked off its pinnacle. This would be the shot heard around the world and hundreds of millions of either frightened or jubilant Muslims would flock to the Muslim world's black Jolly Roger of white skull and crossbones.


In a routine exchange of information, Russia's chief intelligence officer in Washington notified his CIA liaison officer that al Qaeda operatives had been scouting nuclear storage sites in Russia.


It would be a miracle if nothing had been stolen from Russia's long ill-guarded nuclear weapons storage depots during the collapse of the Soviet Union when anything and everything was for sale.

We also know from sketches found in al Qaeda's safe houses in Kabul and Kandahar that bin Laden was interested in nuclear bomb design. Two Pakistani nuclear scientists from A.Q. Khan's stable were in Kandahar when this reporter was there three months before September 11, 2001.

 

[aeon]

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Mr. Nunn, chairman of the board of trustees at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, says we appear to have forgotten the "devastating, world-changing impact of a nuclear [terrorist] attack. "If a 10-kiloton nuclear device goes off in Midtown Manhattan on a typical work day, it could kill more than half a million people," he explains. Ten kiloton is a plausible yield "for a crude terrorist bomb," according to Mr. Nunn.

Hauling that volume of explosives would require a freight train 100 cars long. As a nuclear bomb, it could easily fit on the back of a pickup truck.

Another Nunn scenario has a terrorist group with insider help acquiring a radiological source from an industrial or medical facility; say cesium-137 in the form of powdered cesium chloride. Conventional explosives are used to incorporate cesium into a "dirty bomb," then detonated in New York's financial district. A 60-square block area has to be evacuated. Millions flee the city in panic. Only two dozen are killed but billions of dollars of real estate is declared uninhabitable. Cleanup will take years -- and many more billions.

What interests bin Laden and Zawahri beyond casualty lists is collateral damage to civil liberties, privacy and the world economy. America, as they see it, would be knocked off its pinnacle. This would be the shot heard around the world and hundreds of millions of either frightened or jubilant Muslims would flock to the Muslim world's black Jolly Roger of white skull and crossbones.


In a routine exchange of information, Russia's chief intelligence officer in Washington notified his CIA liaison officer that al Qaeda operatives had been scouting nuclear storage sites in Russia.


It would be a miracle if nothing had been stolen from Russia's long ill-guarded nuclear weapons storage depots during the collapse of the Soviet Union when anything and everything was for sale.

We also know from sketches found in al Qaeda's safe houses in Kabul and Kandahar that bin Laden was interested in nuclear bomb design. Two Pakistani nuclear scientists from A.Q. Khan's stable were in Kandahar when this reporter was there three months before September 11, 2001.

Speculation at his best, no nuclear bomb to this date can be trigger withouth having tremendous installation or withouth being dropped with a bomber, that is a fact.

Knowing for a fact that the anthrax attack were conducted by us military/gov just after 9-11, it would not be a surprised if us military/gov dropped a nuclear bomb on your head, and put the blame on terrorist again.

 

[jimmoyer]

That Maryland facility where they think some employee
was creating the anthrax is not far from where I live.
That grade of anthrax certainly had the characteristics
of an American creation.

And that's going to make me think bin Laden is
all in our imagination ?

Your mono-focus on American evil is understood,
even given some credibility.

But are you going to be naive enough that bin Laden
or Zarqawi is fantasy ?

Didn't you see the Palestinians fire guns in the air
jumping for joy when the Twin Towers went down ?

Is it inconceivable to you that many like bin Laden
want to turn a dream of destroying American society
and Godless Western civilization into rubble ?

Again your rigid views are just as objectionable as the
rightwing.

You're no different from them.

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWE

Americans are the most proliferate nuclear weapons breeders on the planet, it's hilarious when they stand on a radioactive podium and preach thier empty warnings about the dangers of nuclear proliferation especially when they are using nuclear weapons themselves and have been since 1991, already they have killed 12,000 of thier own soldiers with DU poisoning and 250,000 others that returned from the first gulf war are on permanent medical disability, JimMoyer is a sick and frightened little man.

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWE

Much of the world danced in the streets and the parks and the forests all over the world JimMoyer , when the Black Towers fell thier was jubalation in the gardens. Finally a bit of justice in a tired world. Our hearts were filled again with hope for an American free future. Then we learned it was they who destroyed themselves, who can doubt the hand of God in that, she works in mysterious ways.

 

[jimmoyer]

LOL !!!

You are a darkbeaver.

You know, you're correct about the hypocrisy of the
Americans but still it blinds you where you can think
of nothing else.

This is not good for the world as even the Leftwing plays
its Nero's violin while Rome burns.

Americans are going to pay for that depleted uranium
big time, and already have, and will for a long time
to come.

But even you can see the American rationale for
intervention.

Let's just play a flip.

The world says You know what pisses off people in other
lands, so stop doing it.

This is a two-way street.

If one backs off, will the other ?

Unfortunately, for all of us, I doubt either will back
off.

No matter what either side does.

There will be a day of settlement.

And the rest of us voyeurs of this drama are going to
get hurt while one group focuses on evil from one area
and ignores it from another area.

JimMoyer is a sick and frightened little man.

Regarding that I'm thinking safety in numbers: Let's
join together to start the Million Man Midget March.

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWER

That Maryland facility where they think some employee
was creating the anthrax is not far from where I live.
That grade of anthrax certainly had the characteristics
of an American creation.

And that's going to make me think bin Laden is
all in our imagination ?

I giver you 1000 points of what you just said, you are the first american who admit this, congrats.

What i found stupid about anthrax, is the fact when it happened, we heard it on the news on a daily basis, all speculation were towards alquada, as soon as we knew it was from a military lab, we never heard again from it, why?? because no arab were involved.That makes me puke all the way.

Your mono-focus on American evil is understood,
even given some credibility.

But are you going to be naive enough that bin Laden
or Zarqawi is fantasy ?

Ok lets make this clear, i love united states of america, the constitution is the best thing ever written in human history, what real american stands for, i admire this, but don t get confused because i criticize your governement foreign policy in the last 50 years, not to count your media are one of the craziest and dangerous in the world.

Bin laden exist for real,same for the other one, but the threat is exagerated in all sense.

Didn't you see the Palestinians fire guns in the air
jumping for joy when the Twin Towers went down ??

How can you be mad at them??

what do you think they think when a bomb is dropped on their house , written "made in usa"??

or that blind support for israel??

why do you think hamas was elected??

Is it inconceivable to you that many like bin Laden
want to turn a dream of destroying American society
and Godless Western civilization into rubble ?

How bin laden would do that??

Again your rigid views are just as objectionable as the
rightwing.

You're no different from them.

i admit i am radical, but i never said i was perfect, nobody is.

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWE

You can't back off JimMoyer you have no choice you must persue the American dream even though it condemns you to dust ,you cannot stop the war, you cannot stop the fall, you cannot hide, you are to be finished in the middle east where the real power lies under the sand. Read the book JimMoyer read your future, what could be the harm in reading it , you can hide it from your friends and family they don't have to know.

 

[jimmoyer]

By the way Aeon, the speculation in the press
constantly and thoroughly made Anthrax an American
source and what I find admirable is that if YOU had
consistently read American papers during that whole
time on Anthrax, that Maryland facility was CONSTANTLY
mentioned.

The trail on Anthrax is ultimately left as a mystery,
but a lot of the American news made very clear we
could not trace it to al Qaeda with absolute truth
and it made very clear that a lot of the trail led to
domestic American sources.

They're still watching that Maryland employee who
successfully sued in court, to make the authorities
back off.

See I'm a big believer that the human behavior latches
on to one truth at the expense of other truths.

I'm not sure why people feel each truth does not live
side by side rather than thinking each truth cancels the
the validity of the other truth.

I see this all of the time between the Leftwing and
the Rightwing.

 

[jimmoyer]

What interests bin Laden and Zawahri beyond casualty lists is collateral damage to civil liberties, privacy and the world economy. America, as they see it, would be knocked off its pinnacle.

This would be the shot heard around the world and hundreds of millions of either frightened or jubilant Muslims would flock to the Muslim world's black Jolly Roger of white skull and crossbones.


In a routine exchange of information, Russia's chief intelligence officer in Washington notified his CIA liaison officer that al Qaeda operatives had been scouting nuclear storage sites in Russia.


It would be a miracle if nothing had been stolen from Russia's long ill-guarded nuclear weapons storage depots during the collapse of the Soviet Union when anything and everything was for sale.

We also know from sketches found in al Qaeda's safe houses in Kabul and Kandahar that bin Laden was interested in nuclear bomb design.


Two Pakistani nuclear scientists from A.Q. Khan's stable were in Kandahar when this reporter was there three months before September 11, 2001.

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWER

By the way Aeon, the speculation in the press
constantly and thoroughly made Anthrax an American
source and what I find admirable is that if YOU had
consistently read American papers during that whole
time on Anthrax, that Maryland facility was CONSTANTLY
mentioned.

The trail on Anthrax is ultimately left as a mystery,
but a lot of the American news made very clear we
could not trace it to al Qaeda with absolute truth
and it made very clear that a lot of the trail led to
domestic American sources.

They're still watching that Maryland employee who
successfully sued in court, to make the authorities
back off.

See I'm a big believer that the human behavior latches
on to one truth at the expense of other truths.

I'm not sure why people feel each truth does not live
side by side rather than thinking each truth cancels the
the validity of the other truth.

I see this all of the time between the Leftwing and
the Rightwing.

Still , as soon, as we know that no arab were involved, no us officials and no us media talked about it anymore.

 

[jimmoyer]

That's true Aeon. The trail went dead and cold.

What you're missing is that most Americans understand
what you said. We're sure of it as a mystery unsolved.

That's our only surety.

This country south of your border is a lot more complex
than the outsider cartoon view.

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: AL QAEDA NUCLEAR POWE

It is complex isn't it, complex things are hard to fix do you have the skills, Ithink not.

 

[jimmoyer]

Have you ever seen a demolition company screw up
bringing down a building, far shorter than the Twin
Towers ???

You CAN'T EVEN GOOGLE COMPLEX.