Al Gore’s inconvenient judgment

Cobalt_Kid

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Gores hidden agenda, that's funny. Like the Republicans have a clear conscience after the last seven years.
 

Extrafire

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Yeah, frightening kids is a real good thing.

GLOBAL TRAUMANING

A friend’s young daughter came home from school the other day in tears, having been told by a visiting academic that her North Sydney suburb would one day be flooded due to global warming. Alarmed, her father called the school, which confirmed - with regret - the comments made. This child abuse is happening all over the place:
• A Toronto girl was reportedly unable to sleep after seeing An Inconvenient Truth;
• Nine-year-old Sydney boy Ryan Gwin suffers anxiety over the fuel consumed by his father’s bus;
• And another nine-year-old, Virginia’s Alex Hendel, fears the end of life on the earth.
Well done, global warm-mongers. You’ve got kids terrified out of their minds:

While recent polls show that American adults are most concerned about the war in Iraq, terrorism, and healthcare, a survey of more than 1,000 middle school students across the country found that kids fear global warming more than any of these issues ...
Nearly 60 percent of children said they feared global warming and environmental disasters - such as hurricanes, tornados and flooding - more than terrorism, car crashes, and even cancer.

Note that adults aren’t scared of global warming; the “scientific consensus” on global warming seems mostly to worry that sector of the population generally frightened of boogeymen and the dark.

Nearly one-third of children reported thinking about global warming a lot and worrying about how the effects of global warming will change the planet and directly impact their lives. Another 41.2 percent think about it sometimes and say that they are somewhat worried ...
When asked what effect of global warming worries them the most, the majority of kids surveyed are most afraid of the toll it will take on the lives of people.

They think people will die. Nice. The survey’s sponsors seem satisfied with these results:

"We were not surprised in our survey to discover that children are really worried about global warming. We have received thousands of emails from children expressing their fears and asking what they could do to help save the planet,” said BrainPOP CEO and founder Avraham Kadar, M.D.
"Given the media attention from things like Hurricane Katrina and the tsunamis in Asia, it’s no wonder that children are curious and concerned about the impact of global warming.”

Keep telling them that sea-floor earthquakes and historically-constant hurricanes are the result of man’s evil ways; see what levels of misery you can induce. Meanwhile, those who earn $50,000 for alarmist speeches are comfortable and relaxed:

Environmentalist Tim Flannery munches on a club sandwich in a suburban Sydney shopping mall and casually begins predicting Armageddon.
I’ve got two young nieces in the Victorian school system, Flannery. Stay the hell away from them.
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mabudon

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I'll ride on down there this afternoon and take a drink for ya Walt, then when I recover I'l post my findings...

Naww, actually I won't. You must not live near the western end of Lake Ontario, or you must not keep up too much. You know what has to be done to actually drink the water man??

And that website is government patting itself on the back, tho it's a whole year old take a look at this LINK

This summer saw a LOT of beach closures, all due to fertilizer runoff and untreated sewage. I don't recall the numbers but I do listen to the local talk radio and recall a few guests bringing the issue up. What's more, our infrastructure has basically grown beyond our towns ability to maintain.

Oh see extrafire, there's ALWAYS someone who will disagree with you, as Walter pointed out :D
 

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There you go, twisting things around again and attacking a strawman. It isn't whether there is or isn't global warming, it's whether the cause is anthropological or not. Climate change is a given;everyone believes in it. It's the cause that we're arguing about.

Men, people, mankind, have dumped around eight trillion tons of C02 into the atmosphere since the seventeen hundreds. Along with that C02 were tons other greenhouse gases like methane and nitrous oxide, and others. Does anyone think that C02 is the only product of coal-fired electric power plants or smelters, or steam engines? All one has to do is look at the bare ground in the Arctic to know that the Earth is warming.



 
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Cobalt_Kid

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Yeah, frightening kids is a real good thing.

Better frightened now when we can do something about it than waiting till it's too late to stop some very serious climate changes.

The same ****s that have been fighting for years to keep cancer sticks on the market are also behind the attack on climate change science.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/denialmachine/

Who is keeping the debate of global warming alive?
The documentary shows how fossil fuel corporations have kept the global warming debate alive long after most scientists believed that global warming was real and had potentially catastrophic consequences. It shows that companies such as Exxon Mobil are working with top public relations firms and using many of the same tactics and personnel as those employed by Phillip Morris and RJ Reynolds to dispute the cigarette-cancer link in the 1990s. Exxon Mobil sought out those willing to question the science behind climate change, providing funding for some of them, their organizations and their studies.

Guess we know what side you come down on. You're defending the indefencible in the name of profit.
 

Avro

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I'll assume that most of the flat-earthers agree with the errors found by the judge in this case, but do you agree with what else he said......?

claims made by the film were fully backed up by the weight of science. He identified “four main scientific hypotheses, each of which is very well supported by research published in respected, peer-reviewed journals and accords with the latest conclusions of the IPCC”.
In particular, he agreed with the main thrust of Mr Gore’s arguments: “That climate change is mainly attributable to man-made emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide (‘greenhouse gases’).”
The other three main points accepted by the judge were that global temperatures are rising and are likely to continue to rise, that climate change will cause serious damage if left unchecked, and that it is entirely possible for governments and individuals to reduce its impacts.
 

CDNBear

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I'll assume that most of the flat-earthers agree with the errors found by the judge in this case, but do you agree with what else he said......?

claims made by the film were fully backed up by the weight of science. He identified “four main scientific hypotheses, each of which is very well supported by research published in respected, peer-reviewed journals and accords with the latest conclusions of the IPCC”.
In particular, he agreed with the main thrust of Mr Gore’s arguments: “That climate change is mainly attributable to man-made emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide (‘greenhouse gases’).”
The other three main points accepted by the judge were that global temperatures are rising and are likely to continue to rise, that climate change will cause serious damage if left unchecked, and that it is entirely possible for governments and individuals to reduce its impacts.

Of course I would agree with some of what the Judge had to say...

Would you agree that Che was a great man for what he and his legacy achieved in Latin America?
 

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Of course I would agree with some of what the Judge had to say...

Would you agree that Che was a great man for what he and his legacy achieved in Latin America?

So then you agree with the science behind climate change as stated by the judge? Good, now action can be taken.....what next?

I posted something about Che today, I think that speaks for itself.
 

CDNBear

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So then you agree with the science behind climate change as stated by the judge? Good, now action can be taken.....what next?
You're wrong again young lad, I disagree with much of the science and all of the hype behind the AGW theory. Like I said in the post you quoted...
CDNBear said:
Of course I would agree with some of what the Judge had to say...
Some being the key word.
I posted something about Che today, I think that speaks for itself.
No you posted an article about Che, you didn't actually leave behind any of your feelings on the man.

I'm very curious as to whether or not you adore him, as you do Gore and Suzuki. Che's outward message was about the common man and that is the biggest and most prolific part of his legacy. Seeing as you have turned a blind eye to Gore's blatant BS, lies, environmental profitiering and hypocracies, do you feel the same about Che?
 

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So then you agree with the science behind climate change as stated by the judge? Good, now action can be taken.....what next?
You're wrong again young lad, I disagree with much of the science and all of the hype behind the AGW theory. Like I said in the post you quoted...

Some being the key word.

No you posted an article about Che, you didn't actually leave behind any of your feelings on the man.

I'm very curious as to whether or not you adore him, as you do Gore and Suzuki. Che's outward message was about the common man and that is the biggest and most prolific part of his legacy. Seeing as you have turned a blind eye to Gore's blatant BS, lies, environmental profitiering and hypocracies, do you feel the same about Che?

What are the some considering you believe all of the criticisms?

Where did I say I adored Gore or Suzuki for that matter?

Che was a commie, I don't like commies.
 

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What are the some considering you believe all of the criticisms?
The other three main points accepted by the judge were that global temperatures are rising and are likely to continue to rise, that climate change will cause serious damage if left unchecked, and that it is entirely possible for governments and individuals to reduce its impacts.

Where did I say I adored Gore or Suzuki for that matter?
I must have misunderstood your fevered support for adoration...I thin k I read a comment by you not that long ago, about how Suzuki was a great man, non?
Che was a commie, I don't like commies.
But you support poluters, hypocrites, liars, profitiers...hmmm, odd.

Gore has actually done nothing but spread hype, true enough many have caught the environmental bug from his advocacy, but Che has done more to free people from capitalist enslavement then Gore has actually achieved for the environment or mankind for that matter.

Hmmm, how very odd.
 

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Gore has actually done nothing but spread hype.

Hmmm, how very odd.

Exactly.

He's just a multi-millionaire overweight white guy presidential wannabe. He doesn't deserve any recognition or prize.

Scientists and true peace activists do. He's a shill full of false humility and hypocrisy.
 

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I must have misunderstood your fevered support for adoration...I thin k I read a comment by you not that long ago, about how Suzuki was a great man, non?

But you support poluters, hypocrites, liars, profitiers...hmmm, odd.

Gore has actually done nothing but spread hype, true enough many have caught the environmental bug from his advocacy, but Che has done more to free people from capitalist enslavement then Gore has actually achieved for the environment or mankind for that matter.

Hmmm, how very odd.


Like I said good, stop fighting to maintain the status quo on pollution and help instead.

I like the message Gore and Suzuki send in that it helps the eviromental movement in cleaning up our planet even if you don't buy the climate change causes you should at least recognize that. Furthermore it's not something these two picked up on a political whim like many do, it is a combined effort of half a century. It took a movie with the same a sort of shock and awe to get us off our collective arses and do something about what we have done and continue to do. I was a flat earther at one point and really couldn't care less about it but movies like Gore's and work my sister has done has convinced me otherwise.

Hey, if you like Che so much, move to Cuba.
 

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Like I said good, stop fighting to maintain the status quo on pollution and help instead.

I like the message Gore and Suzuki send in that it helps the eviromental movement in cleaning up our planet even if you don't buy the climate change causes you should at least recognize that. Furthermore it's not something these two picked up on a political whim like many do, it is a combined effort of half a century. It took a movie with the same a sort of shock and awe to get us off our collective arses and do something about what we have done and continue to do. I was a flat earther at one point and really couldn't care less about it but movies like Gore's and work my sister has done has convinced me otherwise.

Hey, if you like Che so much, move to Cuba.
As I thought...

Political ideological hypocracy at its best.
 

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It's like telling a funny joke to someone that just doesn't get it...

If you have to explain it, they still won't get it. Though they may laugh, you just know they don't won't you to think they're buggered.
 

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It's like telling a funny joke to someone that just doesn't get it...

If you have to explain it, they still won't get it. Though they may laugh, you just know they don't won't you to think they're buggered.

If you can't answer it just say so.
 

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Gore has actually done nothing but spread hype, true enough many have caught the environmental bug from his advocacy

Gore has been working since the mid 1970s to bring climate change into the political agenda long before most people were even aware of the issue.

What have the people on the other side of the political agenda been doing in the same time? They've been getting the maximum profit from the oil and weapons industry and helped put us in the environmental crisis we're in now. Criticizing Gore for trying to make positive changes while ignoring the people who are largely behind the problem is just ignorant.