Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize

[Curiosity]

For goodness sakes.....I know you hate Gore. That shows in everything you type about him.

Look at your first post and tell me you were not trying to belittle or put down the whole topic.

Do your worst Curio. I don't care.

Juan please calm down...

... and when you do please explain why this whole topic is based upon something I wrote half in jest - and have been taking it from you throughout. There is more than Gore and GW and the Nobel award.... I have just come to realize Juan how much you really dislike me and what I stand for.
I represent something you have decided upon years ago and yet you continue year after year to fault me on so many things it has become expected by me that no matter what I do, Juan will not be pleased with whatever I write or feel or believe.

I refuse to give you that power Juan....it won't work anymore with me.

What you thrive upon is......how people learn to hate their neighbors... why people kill each other over the smallest of issues...and how wars start. My life is spent in trying to eradicate this for as many people who will give me the opportunity and share their lives with me.... and I am successful at what I do.

I have done my best and you will never know it.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

You equated a man who is doing his best to save us from the most pressing crisis of our time with a man who caused the greatest suffering in history Curiosity.

I can fully understand why Juan would be pissed at your dishonesty.

It's the irrationality that you represent that's the problem here.

 

[Avro]

Juan please calm down...

... and when you do please explain why this whole topic is based upon something I wrote half in jest - and have been taking it from you throughout. There is more than Gore and GW and the Nobel award.... I have just come to realize Juan how much you really dislike me and what I stand for.
I represent something you have decided upon years ago and yet you continue year after year to fault me on so many things it has become expected by me that no matter what I do, Juan will not be pleased with whatever I write or feel or believe.

I refuse to give you that power Juan....it won't work anymore with me.

What you thrive upon is......how people learn to hate their neighbors... why people kill each other over the smallest of issues...and how wars start. My life is spent in trying to eradicate this for as many people who will give me the opportunity and share their lives with me.... and I am successful at what I do.

I have done my best and you will never know it.

It's not more than Gore winning, your lack of knowledge tried to piss on what is a prestidious award because someone you hate was awarded it and that is a fact.

Run away from all you want but it is the the truth.

Don't try and play the Fox fair and balanced card because it is a pile of BS.

Just admit you have a political bias and get it over with.:roll:

 

[Avro]

You equated a man who is doing his best to save us from the most pressing crisis of our time with a man who caused the greatest suffering in history Curiosity.

I can fully understand why Juan would be pissed at your dishonesty.

It's the irrationality that you represent that's the problem here.

BRAVO!!!!!

 

[Locutus]

Much of this type of drama can be propogated (but certainly maintained) by the media. Whether you believe them left, center or right in their owner's ideology. It's irrelevant. And you better believe that owner's want their ideas heard, whether it be print or other media.

The press picked up and ran with the Bush 'Iraq War' ball and never asked hard questions to challenge what the hell was really going on. No show us the proof. No journalism. Just bandwagoneering. USA #1. Nuke 'em. Because a few hawks said it was so? Indeed. Follow along and cheer like you're at a wrasslin' match. The Canadian press was almost as bad.

The same applies to Gore here. The concept of the scientists he speaks for is somewhat valid but the media has portayed this millionaire lawyer as a saint, the oracle. He that speaketh for mankind.

He is really the Emperor sans clothes and no one questions the blind followings. Soon they'll drink the kool aid too.

Free and independant thought is sorely lacking today. Media promote popular causes and their darling choices at the polls. The public in general is ignorant of what lay beneath and behind. It's sad that the gullability of society is as such. That something is repeated over and over in the media does not make something true, nor right.

Bush and his band of merry men misled the world about the hijackers and WMD. That the media reporting it's love-in of Al getting the so-called 'Peace Prize', while perhaps Goretastic, does not change the fact that it is a politically-oriented film with some holes in it's science that has been refuted by >50% of published scientists (there's an entire thread concerning this fact).

Too much media therapy can be a very dangerous thing indeed.

My opinion.

 

[Avro]

To bad that Bush had no consensous from the UN and it's inspectors while Gore has scientific consensous form the climate community.

Big difference between the two.

 

[Locutus]

To bad that Bush had no consensous from the UN and it's inspectors while Gore has scientific consensous form the climate community.

Big difference between the two.

No he does not. He has some support and many detractors. These are not armchair 'warmers' either. Read the article for yourself if you like.

SURVEY: LESS THAN HALF OF ALL PUBLISHED SCIENTISTS ENDORSE GLOBAL WARMING THEORY; COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY OF PUBLISHED CLIMATE RESEARCH REVEALS CHANGING VIEWPOINTS

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/s...scientists-endorse-global-warming-theory.html

I don't know if he's right in his regurgitation of his group's findings or not. But I do know that the minority think he is but the media plays it as 'truth'.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Much of this type of drama can be propogated (but certainly maintained) by the media. Whether you believe them left, center or right in their owner's ideology. It's irrelevant. And you better believe that owner's want their ideas heard, whether it be print or other media.

The press picked up and ran with the Bush 'Iraq War' ball and never asked hard questions to challenge what the hell was really going on. No show us the proof. No journalism. Just bandwagoneering. USA #1. Nuke 'em. Because a few hawks said it was so? Indeed. Follow along and cheer like you're at a wrasslin' match. The Canadian press was almost as bad.

The same applies to Gore here. The concept of the scientists he speaks for is somewhat valid but the media has portayed this millionaire lawyer as a saint, the oracle. He that speaketh for mankind.

He is really the Emperor sans clothes and no one questions the blind followings. Soon they'll drink the kool aid too.

Free and independant thought is sorely lacking today. Media promote popular causes and their darling choices at the polls. The public in general is ignorant of what lay beneath and behind. It's sad that the gullability of society is as such. That something is repeated over and over in the media does not make something true, nor right.

Bush and his band of merry men misled the world about the hijackers and WMD. That the media reporting it's love-in of Al getting the so-called 'Peace Prize', while perhaps Goretastic, does not change the fact that it is a politically-oriented film with some holes in it's science that has been refuted by >50% of published scientists (there's an entire thread concerning this fact).

Too much media therapy can be a very dangerous thing indeed.

My opinion.

Bush is the Emperor without clothes not Gore.

Gores feet are firmly planted in the science, something that is becoming more apparent as time goes by.

 

[Walter]

You equated a man who is doing his best to save us from the most pressing crisis of our time with a man who caused the greatest suffering in history Curiosity.

Would that be Stalin or Mao, who caused the deaths of tens of millions in their respective countries?

 

[Walter]

The climate is always changing but I'm not arrogant enough to believe that man is responsible for the change.

 

[Walter]

Hey Walt, wrap your tiny head around this logic.

http://www.break.com/index/global-warming-guy-is-back.html

http://www.break.com/index/global-warming-guy-is-back.html[/quote With that logic I should stay in bed because I could get hit by a bus.

 

[daisygirl]

Regardless of the topic, people will always have differing views. That doesn't necessarily mean that one side is right and one side is wrong but rather that people are looking at something from different angles.

I am, quite frankly, disgusted to see some of the horrendous name calling which has gone on in this thread just because people don't agree with each other. Heavens, a democracy is supposed to mean that we are able to share our opinions freely. If we were all forced to have the same opinion about something, that would be a very sad world. Some people have to live like that...but we don't. Enjoy your freedom to argue and debate but don't trash each other while you are doing it.

 

[CDNBear]

Does anybody even care that a Court of Law has found that Gore's movie was full of falsehoods, misconceptions, blatant lies and glaring inaccuracies?

That alone should have negated his nomination, let alone his actually being awarded the prize.

 

[Locutus]

Does anybody even care that a Court of Law has found that Gore's movie was full of falsehoods, misconceptions, blatant lies and glaring inaccuracies?

That alone should have negated his nomination, let alone his actually being awarded the prize.

I sure as hell do.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/science-environment/68094-al-gore-s-inconvenient-judgment.html


Good to see you back Bear. ;-)

 

[#juan]

Does anybody even care that a Court of Law has found that Gore's movie was full of falsehoods, misconceptions, blatant lies and glaring inaccuracies?

That alone should have negated his nomination, let alone his actually being awarded the prize.

What nonsense. Sure there are flaws in "An Inconvenient Truth" but none of them void the broader message that Gore is giving us, namely: Global Warming is here. Global Warming is already hurting real people. It is time we do something about it. Anybody who has been near the Arctic recently will not argue the existence of global warming. Global warming is not some shady conspiracy theory. It is a fact. The only question should be what we can do about it.

 

[CDNBear]

Regardless of the topic, people will always have differing views. That doesn't necessarily mean that one side is right and one side is wrong but rather that people are looking at something from different angles.

I am, quite frankly, disgusted to see some of the horrendous name calling which has gone on in this thread just because people don't agree with each other. Heavens, a democracy is supposed to mean that we are able to share our opinions freely. If we were all forced to have the same opinion about something, that would be a very sad world. Some people have to live like that...but we don't. Enjoy your freedom to argue and debate but don't trash each other while you are doing it.

Daisy, sometimes some people just don't get it, unless they're being clubbed about the head and ears.

I sure as hell do.

That's cuz you're smart.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/science-environment/68094-al-gore-s-inconvenient-judgment.html

Saw that, that was what I was referring to. It was a great post by the way.

Good to see you back Bear. ;-)

Thanx, it's good to be back, been hunting, fishing and protesting, lol....

 

[CDNBear]

What nonsense.

Hey juan... I'm as entitled to my opinion as you are. Just because you disagree, does not make my opinion "nonsense".

Sure there are flaws in "An Inconvenient Truth" but none of them void the broader message that Gore is giving us, namely: Global Warming is here.

WOW!!!

I remember just a lil while ago you fought tooth and nail and stated quite insultingly, that it was absolutely perfect and the even MIT had stated as such.

Good to see you've come to your senses.

Global Warming is already hurting real people. It is time we do something about it.

Did I say anything to the contrary of that?

Anybody who has been near the Arctic recently will not argue the existence of global warming.

I haven't been there, but I have read several articles on the fact that the Polar Bear populations are in a serious up swing. In fact, there is talk of a possible cull in a few years time.

Global warming is not some shady conspiracy theory. It is a fact.

Fair enough, but the staring roles are all taken up by shady characters.

The only question should be what we can do about it.

I would agree, but shouldn't we determine what exactly we can do and what effect we will have with the suggestive actions on the table first?

 

[#juan]

Hey juan... I'm as entitled to my opinion as you are. Just because you disagree, does not make my opinion "nonsense".

Absolutely true. I apologize.

I don't know if you've watched Gore's movie or not. I've watched it four or five times. I admit there are mistakes but none of those mistakes negate the message. It is extremely important that we(the whole world) take it seriously. We can't have even a little bit of global warming. One degree would be a disaster.
They won't be culling the polar bear population any time soon. The sea ice they spend a good part of their life on has been reduced by drastic proportions.

 

[Avro]

[/url] With that logic I should stay in bed because I could get hit by a bus.

What a shock, you didn't even get it.:roll:

 

[CDNBear]

Absolutely true. I apologize.

Thanx...

I don't know if you've watched Gore's movie or not.

I have and I pointed out all the glaring errors to my kids as we went along.

I've watched it four or five times. I admit there are mistakes but none of those mistakes negate the message.

I'm not arguing the message, I'm arguing his motives, his delivery and his ethics.

It is extremely important that we(the whole world) take it seriously.

You have to know by now, that I do, I have stated we need to address polution on the whole, not just nit pick the parts that make for good sound bytes.

We can't have even a little bit of global warming. One degree would be a disaster.

Agreed.

They won't be culling the polar bear population any time soon. The sea ice they spend a good part of their life on has been reduced by drastic proportions.

IQALUIT - Climate change is not hurting polar bear populations in the Davis Strait area of Nunavut, according to Dr. Mitch Taylor, manager of wildlife research and a polar bear biologist with the GN's Department of Environment.

In fact, polar bear populations along the Davis Strait are healthy and their numbers increasing, an ongoing study is indicating.
Reports in national and international press have projected that two-thirds of the world's polar bear populations will be lost within 50 years due to the loss of sea ice. Canada has two thirds of the world's polar bears. Nunavut is home to 12 of Canada's 13 polar bear populations, totalling an estimated 14,780.

That thin ice is not taking the toll the dooms dayers claimed it was having...An issue addressed in the Court case highlighted earlier.