Ahh these pitbulls again

missile

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it doesn't make any sense to be allowed to own a large animal inside an urban area[unless it's a seeing eye dog!]Animals need some freedom of movement, so the country is the perfect place for them. Anyway, even though pitbulls have only attacked a few-banning makes sense. Nobody living has ever been attacked and torn apart by poodles :)
 

missile

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:) I did see one woman here with very good sense. She was walking her Pit & it was leashed and muzzled. I wouldn't be surprised if she also had a baggie & pooper scooper on her,too_Oh,the dog was very well behaved 8) [perhaps the cute little neckerchief it wore kept it's nastier traits in check!]
 

#juan

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Most Pit Bulls look something like this though the colours vary from white through brown, to black or black and white or brown and white:

 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Ahh these pitbulls ag

What a nice-looking dog.

Missile, your supposition that large dogs only belong in the country is false. Dogs can get adequate excercise in the average suburban backyard. Most dog owners also take their dogs to the park, for walks down the street, and on camping trips etc.

Dogs in rural areas tend to have shorter lives because of being around heavy equipment, proximity to roads and lack of fencing. In addition they are exposed to herbicides and pesticides regularly. They often get far less attention from their owners and many get less exercise than their suburban and urban counterparts as a result.
 

Cosmo

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missile said:
it doesn't make any sense to be allowed to own a large animal inside an urban area[unless it's a seeing eye dog!]Animals need some freedom of movement, so the country is the perfect place for them. Anyway, even though pitbulls have only attacked a few-banning makes sense. Nobody living has ever been attacked and torn apart by poodles :)

How silly, Missile! My dog is a Jack Russell ... less suited to urban living than most of the larger breeds. Her energy level is off the charts, she's a natural born hunter, likes to bark and is far more likely to bite than any other dog I've ever owned. Oh, and for the record? I never go anywhere without a pooper scooper bag, never let my dog run free when she could dash in front of vehicles or hurt other small animals (except squirrells if she could catch the damn bird-eating rodents) and am a responsible pet owner. You even have a dog????

Your assumptions are absurd. Shoot, many humans are best suited to the country! A few, like me, prefer the asphalt comforts minus the bugs and outdoor plumbing, but me and Woody Allen are a minority. If we're going to start placing all the mammals in their most appropriate habitat we've got a big job ahead of us.

Read back in the thread. I won't bother to repeat what's already been said, but I suggest you take the time to look at it.

Breed banning does not work. Particularly banning pitbulls since they are a cross breed and not readily identifiable. Many dogs are mistaken for pitbulls, many pitbulls slip under the radar because they don't look like the pic posted above.

Instead of worrying about dogs, I'd suggest our government has more pressing issues to address.
 

Cosmo

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Vanni Fucci said:
I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t
got the guts to bite people themselves -August Strindberg
:lol: :lol: Don't believe every quote you read ... I'm more likely to bite than my dog! This is a pic of me, not Moche!
 

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"Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you? But when you take him in a car he sticks his head out the window".
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Cosmo

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"Better not take a dog on the space shuttle, because if he sticks his head out when you're coming home his face might burn up." - "DEEP THOUGHTS" by Jack Handy
 

#juan

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If a dog doesn't have the physical attributes of the dog in the picture, strong muscular body, square muzzle, massive jaw muscles, deep chest, then it is not a Pit Bull. Pitt Bulls can be many different colours but their physical characteristics remain the same.
 

#juan

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True. The boxer comes to mind but it is a bigger dog and the muzzle is longer and the jaw muscles are not as pronounced. There are other short-haired Terriers that are similar to the Pit Bull but the whole package is not the same. I have a friend in England who has two of Pitt Bulls and he says he loves his dogs and that the problems we have in North America are the fault of the breeders. The breeding and inbreeding for certain characteristics has brought in other problems resulting in dogs that are highstrung and unpredictable.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Ahh these pitbulls ag

The ban doesn't require all of those attributes though. If your dog has enough of the attributes that somebody who has never seen a pitbull before might point to your dog, then you have a problem...you have to attempt to prove that your dog isn't a pitbull. If it's any sort of terrier at all, you will likely not succeed in that attempt.
 

#juan

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You're right Rev

Seems to me the wording is "any Pitt Bull or Pitt Bull cross". Shove a lot of dogs though a hole like that. Probably aren't going to use DNA...
 

Steve French

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RE: Ahh these pitbulls ag

Well, of course banning works.
Guns are dangerous.
Guns may get into the hands of stupid and/or otherwise dangerous individuals.
Therefore, the ownership of guns must be restricted by society - hence EVERYone is punished for the actions of a few.
This is the foundation of all 'law'.
I don't like this law very much because I am a gun owner, but I understand it's necessity.
 

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Re: RE: Ahh these pitbulls ag

Reverend Blair said:
Ya know, I've been attacked by German Shepherds, Labrador Retrievers, Toy Poodles and Chiahuahuas. I've never been attacked by a pitbull though, even though one that was alleged to be dangerous lived next door for several years.

I think if we're going to start banning things, we should start by banning people who are intolerant of dogs.

I'm with you Rev..."All Dogs dite" What a horrible stereotype Steve, no they don't. all dogs have the potential to bite, like all humans have the potential to assault another, it's all in the rearing. talk about canine racism.....I hope that you're attacked by a cute cuddly kitten, and then you'll be wishing that the so-called "agressive" yet docile pit bull down the road was back
 

manda

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Steve French said:
Well, of course banning works.
Guns are dangerous.
Guns may get into the hands of stupid and/or otherwise dangerous individuals.
Therefore, the ownership of guns must be restricted by society - hence EVERYone is punished for the actions of a few.
This is the foundation of all 'law'.
I don't like this law very much because I am a gun owner, but I understand it's necessity.

so like the gun registry,we have suggested a dog registry, and theen the owners can be tracked for everything from encouraging aggressive demeanor, to failing to pick up the unuk when doggy goes on the sidewalk
 

Cosmo

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Ok, just for my own information ... which of the dogs in this collection are pitbulls? No guessing. If you saw them on the street, could you identify them accurately? Hint: There is at least one pitbull in the picture, all four may be.

If you can, beyond any doubt, I will stop arguing that breed banning by sight as opposed to DNA testing could work. If the majority of common folk can't tell the difference, it proves (to me) that I am correct in disregarding the yammering of the uninformed.

 

#juan

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Starting from top left and going clockwise

1. possible Pitt Bull

2. Golden Lab

3. Pitt Bull

4. A Great Dane (I think)

I'm no expert. These are just guesses. :lol: