It's not moving? When did it stop moving and why did it stop moving? Why did it even start moving in the first place? CO2?
AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?
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I'm no expert on this, but I don't think it actually 'moved'. It's just that some ice has melted away and some ice has come about in the last 30 or so years. If anything, there's obviously more ice that has melted away - and it is more than probable that C02 emissions caused the melting of that ice.
I could be wrong here, but it seems plain that the ice itself didn't physically move. Am I missing something, because this seems bluntly obvious.
Monckton Watch: Lordly Phony Threatens Phony Suit
The British House of Lords has once again disavowed any association with the embarrassing Christopher Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, even as his Lordship has labored to earn even wider notoriety by threatening a lawsuit against yet another U.S. academic.
The Lordly disavowal came in response to a very funny letter of inquiry from the wonderful wiseacres at Friends of Gin and Tonic (temporarily the "Lords of Gin and Tonic" in faux tribute to the self-promoting Viscount).
Monckton himself launched the unconvincing legal threat against Scott Mandia, a professor at Suffolk County College in Seldon, New York. In addition to operating an excellent informational website on climate change, Prof. Mandia also runs his own blog, on which he had the impertinence to call out Monckton for his earlier ridiculous attacks on University of St. Thomas Professor John Abraham.
Mandia had encouraged his readers to write letters to mainstream media sources, urging them to look into the issue and, "Expose Monckton for the fraud that he is." Monckton chose to interpret that as an accusation that he had committed fraud, a topic on which much rich discussion could follow. For example, lying so frequently about being a member of the House of Lords that the House itself feels moved to take countermeasures might reasonably be interpreted as fraud.
But Mandia was so clearly saying that Monckton IS a fraud, a contention well-supported by the definition of that word in my Oxford English Reference Dictionary: "3. a person or thing not fulfilling what is claimed or expected of him, her, or it."
For clarity - and because Monckton seems to have difficulty understanding things on first reading - useful synonyms might include, "imposter, pretender, masquerader, mountebank, quack, charlatan, fake, phony, fourflusher, flimflammer, trickster, bamboozler or dissembler."
I personally like mountebank, as in, Christopher Monckton, Third Mountebank Monckton of Brenchley - although, like Monckton himself, such a title would dishonor the members of his family who actually earned the hereditary peerage in the first place.
The British House of Lords has once again disavowed any association with the embarrassing Christopher Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, even as his Lordship has labored to earn even wider notoriety by threatening a lawsuit against yet another U.S. academic.
The Lordly disavowal came in response to a very funny letter of inquiry from the wonderful wiseacres at Friends of Gin and Tonic (temporarily the "Lords of Gin and Tonic" in faux tribute to the self-promoting Viscount).
Monckton himself launched the unconvincing legal threat against Scott Mandia, a professor at Suffolk County College in Seldon, New York. In addition to operating an excellent informational website on climate change, Prof. Mandia also runs his own blog, on which he had the impertinence to call out Monckton for his earlier ridiculous attacks on University of St. Thomas Professor John Abraham.
Mandia had encouraged his readers to write letters to mainstream media sources, urging them to look into the issue and, "Expose Monckton for the fraud that he is." Monckton chose to interpret that as an accusation that he had committed fraud, a topic on which much rich discussion could follow. For example, lying so frequently about being a member of the House of Lords that the House itself feels moved to take countermeasures might reasonably be interpreted as fraud.
But Mandia was so clearly saying that Monckton IS a fraud, a contention well-supported by the definition of that word in my Oxford English Reference Dictionary: "3. a person or thing not fulfilling what is claimed or expected of him, her, or it."
For clarity - and because Monckton seems to have difficulty understanding things on first reading - useful synonyms might include, "imposter, pretender, masquerader, mountebank, quack, charlatan, fake, phony, fourflusher, flimflammer, trickster, bamboozler or dissembler."
I personally like mountebank, as in, Christopher Monckton, Third Mountebank Monckton of Brenchley - although, like Monckton himself, such a title would dishonor the members of his family who actually earned the hereditary peerage in the first place.
I checked out your link. No where in that article does it mention any definitive mass of ice moving in one direction or another. In fact that same article reinforces my point that the ice has been melting. "According to a new NASA study, Arctic perennial sea ice has been decreasing at a rate of 9 percent per decade since the 1970s."
Please explain what exactly it is that I am missing here? Like how you define 'movement of ice'.
If you are using the term 'movement' in its strictest sense, then not only volume, but surface area of that mass of ice must remain the same as it moves. That is not the case. It's changed because it has melted in most areas and cooled in some others -- and the link you provided does not indicate otherwise.
Letter to the House of Lords
Dear Lord House,
We at Friends of Gin & Tonic, loyal subjects of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth from the colony of Upper Canada and the convict colony of Australia, would like to enquire about the usage of the emblem of the British Parliament, specifically in connection with the House of Lords. Our good friend, the famous climate denier:
The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
Carie, Rannoch, Scotland, PH17 2QJ
+44 1882 632341; fax 632776; cell +44 7814 556423
monckton@mail.com
has in the past claimed, among many other things, to be a member of the House of Lords. You have denied this (see here). Despite this and the copyright issue you raise here, he continues to use the parliamentary emblem -- slightly modified in colour to fit his rather love-parade taste in ties, and with a modified hat which is not even a Viscount’s coronet -- on his website and in his public presentations on climate change denial:
The Lords of Gin and Tonic
Dear Lord House,
We at Friends of Gin & Tonic, loyal subjects of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth from the colony of Upper Canada and the convict colony of Australia, would like to enquire about the usage of the emblem of the British Parliament, specifically in connection with the House of Lords. Our good friend, the famous climate denier:
The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
Carie, Rannoch, Scotland, PH17 2QJ
+44 1882 632341; fax 632776; cell +44 7814 556423
monckton@mail.com
has in the past claimed, among many other things, to be a member of the House of Lords. You have denied this (see here). Despite this and the copyright issue you raise here, he continues to use the parliamentary emblem -- slightly modified in colour to fit his rather love-parade taste in ties, and with a modified hat which is not even a Viscount’s coronet -- on his website and in his public presentations on climate change denial:
We take his continued display of this emblem as evidence that you have not sought to deny him the use of it. That interests us because in the interests of gaining credibility from (false) authority, we would like to change the name of our organization to ‘Lords of Gin & Tonic’ and use a logo very similar to yours but enhanced from its present stuffy form with the subtle additions of a half-full highball glass and a lime. We assure you we would present it very tastefully, in conjunction with appropriate schtick promoting ourselves as upper-class twits.
The Lords of Gin and Tonic
Given that you haven’t prosecuted the Viscount Monckton, can we take it that you won’t prosecute us either? On the other hand, if you are intending to prosecute him, we’d be grateful for the foreknowledge. It would not only stop us debasing the parliamentary emblem, it might even make us think twice about taking the piss out of the Lords as a bunch of impotent and/or complicit old fools who by their silence let an obscure hereditary peer damage the unwashed public’s perception of the relevance of their institution more than at any time since that horrible man Asquith.
We look forward to your reply.
Regards,
Your subjects,
The Lords of Gin & Tonic
We sent this letter to the House of Lords in the evening of the 2nd of August, local Calgary time. By the time of posting it here, we have not received a reply.
Update. We sent a follow-up on 5th Aug 2010:
Dear Lord House,
Further to our letter from 2nd August (below), the fact that we have not received a reply from you, and sensu visconti Moncktonis, we take the liberty to use a modified House of Lords logo on our website:
Letter to the House of Lords | Roger, Derek, WoS | Friends of Gin & Tonic
After all, one of us lived near Moncton, N.B., which was named after the grandfather of our dear viscount, by a bunch of dyslexic country pumpkins.
Regards,
Your Lords of Gin and Tonic
We look forward to your reply.
Regards,
Your subjects,
The Lords of Gin & Tonic
We sent this letter to the House of Lords in the evening of the 2nd of August, local Calgary time. By the time of posting it here, we have not received a reply.
Update. We sent a follow-up on 5th Aug 2010:
Dear Lord House,
Further to our letter from 2nd August (below), the fact that we have not received a reply from you, and sensu visconti Moncktonis, we take the liberty to use a modified House of Lords logo on our website:
Letter to the House of Lords | Roger, Derek, WoS | Friends of Gin & Tonic
After all, one of us lived near Moncton, N.B., which was named after the grandfather of our dear viscount, by a bunch of dyslexic country pumpkins.
Regards,
Your Lords of Gin and Tonic
Well, of the papers that are available from the google scholar you linked to, they note the well studied atmospheric excitation, due to angular momentum. They also note it is stochastic.
As I already said, stochastic means that there is no expected value, whereas climate, the average, by definition produces expected values. The solar cycle is known as a 12 year cycle, but it routinely is longer or shorter than 12 years.
It's not a given that they did. You're not asking a sensible question. Your starting question should be what caused the truncation, before you ask how. The possibility that there is no explanation (a stochastic realization) is there, and hasn't been eliminated.
I have no idea. To your knowledge, has that truncations effect been quanitified on insolation?
As noise.
While you're at it, present the post. Maybe the answer is staring you in the face, or maybe I never said that.
He may mean how the location of the ice has changed. He thinks that climate change can be explained by the moving magnetic pole.
There are simpler explanations. There is a large annual cycle in the temperature of the 2 m of atmosphere closest to the surface of the Earth. There are also large semiannual cycle, and even ter-annual cycles up there. If you watch animations like this:
the annual cycle is clearly visible in the animation, because it's amplitude up in the Arctic is on the order of 15-24°C:
You were doing so good the other day when you admitted "I don't know" instead of guessing and you have no clue as to what I believe or don't believe so don't try to guess that either.
