After he escaped, thanks to Rumsfeld for screwing that up. The Commander on the Ground wanted troops to close one exit off. Rumsfeld denied it, left the NA ragtag to do that. 50 k bribe, dressed as a woman, gonzo.
Afghanistan - Time to leave
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After he escaped, thanks to Rumsfeld for screwing that up. The Commander on the Ground wanted troops to close one exit off. Rumsfeld denied it, left the NA ragtag to do that. 50 k bribe, dressed as a woman, gonzo.
Seeing this on the front page I read it and loled.
Yes Cliffy know one with any sense knows why we went there. Except when you realize there was no exit strategy and the amount of time it went on for , it was just part and parcel to the military economy, and CIA reaping the benefits of Opium. not unlike Yankee traders did at the end of the British run on this with their Tea for opium fortunes.
It had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 for in the end if it did and real intelligence was being listened to on the subject we would not be here today with ISIS running rampnat in Iraq and the entire African continent and mid east mired in terrorists.
It was a place where fortunes could be made by CIA with opium. it went from 45% of the world production to under the guise of CIA, 95%
maybe if we took this to heart
Donovan - Universal Soldier - YouTube
When Bush was asked, why did you invade Iraq? He replied - because nobody stopped him.
Same with Obama - nobody stopped him.
IIRC, it took him only three days to bail out Wall Street and three months to expand the war. Had I been in the White House, it would have taken me three seconds to tell the elites in Wall Street to go to hell and another three minutes to sign an order to bring the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq.
Same with Obama - nobody stopped him.
IIRC, it took him only three days to bail out Wall Street and three months to expand the war. Had I been in the White House, it would have taken me three seconds to tell the elites in Wall Street to go to hell and another three minutes to sign an order to bring the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq.
You must be referring to the "Good War" as opposed to Bush's bad war in Iraq?
In Canada, we had an Independent committee figuring out and presenting to us Canknucleheads reasons why we were there.
KABUL, AFGHANISTAN — NATO says a roadside bomb has killed three international service members in southern Afghanistan.
The alliance says the three were killed along with a military dog on Friday. It didn’t give more details about the location or nature of the attack.
Roadside bomb kills 3 NATO troops in Afghanistan | Army Times | armytimes.com
The alliance says the three were killed along with a military dog on Friday. It didn’t give more details about the location or nature of the attack.
Roadside bomb kills 3 NATO troops in Afghanistan | Army Times | armytimes.com
The Taliban are too dedicated a force for any outside force to effectively keep control of that country.
The only thing that works is having soldiers that are a dedicated to dying as the Taliban are.
Then many have said the State could divide along tribal lines- North V South
Reagan wasn't kidding when he equated their predecessors with our Founding Fathers - nobody was able to stop them because they are fighting for their country from foreign domination. That may not be a politically correct view for right wingers but the facts clearly establish this as fact.
Was that the thing that happened in 2001-02? I remember reading they came very close to getting him but the people on the ground didn't get the support they needed to catch him.
He thinks he can succeed where everyone else failed. If thats the reason, he's probably wrong.
Not just them. Even if you totally wipe them out there are still dozens of tribal war lords controlling most of the country. They aren't exactly friendly. Even the Taliban never had full control of the country when they were 'in power.'
Yes, they had him cornered.
Battle of Tora Bora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Report: 'Bin Laden was within our grasp' - CNN.com
Having a prolonged war is a lot more profitable than capturing and killing the s.o.b. right up front. Small wonder why traitor Bush let him go.
Myself I do not go along with that.
The cost for Iraq is now at 1.7 Trillion. Afghanistan will not be far behind.
By the time the final tally comes along it will be closer to 5 Trillion.
Did you miss my post on who ramped up Korea and Vietnam?
Both Dems and Repubs have enough blood on their hands.
Your point about Korea & Vietnam is valid but I doubt your point about Afghanistan.
Bush's campaign to save federal expenditures by increasing deregulation and privatizing airport security is what led to the hijackings which caused 9/11. We saw no such thing during Clinton's years as he was not willing to compromise our security in order to give the appearance of shrinking the government. Ironically, Bush (the less government advocate) expanded the government and spent more money by creating TSA.
Bush's campaign to save federal expenditures by increasing deregulation and privatizing airport security is what led to the hijackings which caused 9/11. We saw no such thing during Clinton's years as he was not willing to compromise our security in order to give the appearance of shrinking the government. Ironically, Bush (the less government advocate) expanded the government and spent more money by creating TSA.
What was the voting record on this? Aside from Kerry before he was for it then against it. or was it the other way??
if i recall correctly prior to Iraq, 2 journalists in the mid west were listing the problems with the lintel and the WH propaganda.
They were derided nation wide by Dems & Repubs and their peers as well. They got it right.
i think it was Colorado.
Do not get held ransom by a party line.
re airport deregulation:
The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism - Naomi Klein - Google Books
the fault lies squarely with Bush who followed Reagan's plan and carried to its disastrous consequences - that led to the security loss and the terrorist attack
The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism - Naomi Klein - Google Books
the fault lies squarely with Bush who followed Reagan's plan and carried to its disastrous consequences - that led to the security loss and the terrorist attack
Americans not exactly happy with the war on Iraq:
Not Worth It: Huge Majority Regret Iraq War, Exclusive Poll Shows - NBC News
Support for the war has dropped in almost all categories, but particularly among Republicans and conservatives.
Told ya so.
Not Worth It: Huge Majority Regret Iraq War, Exclusive Poll Shows - NBC News
Support for the war has dropped in almost all categories, but particularly among Republicans and conservatives.
Told ya so.
Time to leave Afghanistan & Iraq and to stay the hell out of Syria:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/27/w...on®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0
Mr. Obama’s request calls for the Pentagon to “train and equip vetted elements of the Syrian armed opposition to help defend the Syrian people, stabilize areas under opposition control, facilitate the provision of essential services, counter terrorist threats and promote conditions for a negotiated settlement.”
It's none of our business - let them settle it themselves.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/27/w...on®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0
Mr. Obama’s request calls for the Pentagon to “train and equip vetted elements of the Syrian armed opposition to help defend the Syrian people, stabilize areas under opposition control, facilitate the provision of essential services, counter terrorist threats and promote conditions for a negotiated settlement.”
It's none of our business - let them settle it themselves.
