When is the last time a circus worker got shot by an animal rights activist in Winnipeg, tibear? The threat becomes implicit. Day or night, protestors become a subject of much concern when somebody decides to shoot a doctor.
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Vanni,
As I stated, when we began to discuss the topic of morality. I was pretty much gang jumped that noone had the right to impose their moral beliefs onto anyone else.
But then Pea and I had the following exchange, Quote:
Pea,
So let me get this straight, it's OK if the majority want to impose a morality law but not for a minority.
All along I thought your position was that nobody had the right to impose their moral convictions onto others.
Does this mean that since statistically, the vast majority of Canadians are Christian does that mean that it would be OK for the "majority" to pass Christian moral laws
Her reply was, Quote:
Thats exactly what I am saying
So she's now implying she doesn't have a problem with Christian moral laws, because Christians are the majority.
At least that's what I get from the exchange.
I don't like dumb ass games tibear...that one^^^^^^^ is obvious.
The majority of so called christians already said how they felt about these issues in the election. What else do you need?? And most people I know just tick the box when asked what religion they are, and they gather on sunday to socialize. The rest of the week they smoke drink and screw! Some have abortions, some are gay, most don't really give a dam what their neighbour is doing, Its not them I worry about, its the neo conservatives who try to force their depraved morality onto me, based on their book, and
they are trying to do that by obtaining power to take my country back to the stone age.
Most of all I have nothing but contempt for their tatics and calling it morality. Who uses childern for a political agenda?? is it moral to use the murder and rape of child to try and smear your opponent and make no apology for it.
All these tatics are so obvious, I cannot believe you people think that we cannot see through them.
As I stated, when we began to discuss the topic of morality. I was pretty much gang jumped that noone had the right to impose their moral beliefs onto anyone else.
But then Pea and I had the following exchange, Quote:
Pea,
So let me get this straight, it's OK if the majority want to impose a morality law but not for a minority.
All along I thought your position was that nobody had the right to impose their moral convictions onto others.
Does this mean that since statistically, the vast majority of Canadians are Christian does that mean that it would be OK for the "majority" to pass Christian moral laws
Her reply was, Quote:
Thats exactly what I am saying
So she's now implying she doesn't have a problem with Christian moral laws, because Christians are the majority.
At least that's what I get from the exchange.
I don't like dumb ass games tibear...that one^^^^^^^ is obvious.
The majority of so called christians already said how they felt about these issues in the election. What else do you need?? And most people I know just tick the box when asked what religion they are, and they gather on sunday to socialize. The rest of the week they smoke drink and screw! Some have abortions, some are gay, most don't really give a dam what their neighbour is doing, Its not them I worry about, its the neo conservatives who try to force their depraved morality onto me, based on their book, and
they are trying to do that by obtaining power to take my country back to the stone age.
Most of all I have nothing but contempt for their tatics and calling it morality. Who uses childern for a political agenda?? is it moral to use the murder and rape of child to try and smear your opponent and make no apology for it.
All these tatics are so obvious, I cannot believe you people think that we cannot see through them.
Hey Pea,
Could I ask of you a small favour...
Could you throw some quotes around tibear's inane twaddle, I wouldn't want people new to this thread to think that this vulgarity originated with me...
Thanks...
VF
Could I ask of you a small favour...
Could you throw some quotes around tibear's inane twaddle, I wouldn't want people new to this thread to think that this vulgarity originated with me...
Thanks...
VF
Well if I could I would I keep telling people all that stuff ^^^^^ there does not work for me...and I am not wasting anymore time on it. :twisted: I have been walked through by galaniomama, cosmos, andem and it does not WORK! Somebody has to come and see for themselves. Besides everyone already knows that about tibear quotes. Even charlie saw right away...and he is made of paper 8O
I keep telling people all that stuff ^^^^^ there does not work for me...and I am not wasting anymore time on it. :twisted: I have been walked through by galaniomama, cosmos, andem and it does not WORK! Somebody has to come and see for themselves. Besides everyone already knows that about tibear quotes. Even charlie saw right away...and he is made of paper 8O
No problem Pea,
Having now said this, people should be able to follow along...
Sorry to hear about your tools malfunction... :wink:
Having now said this, people should be able to follow along...
Sorry to hear about your tools malfunction... :wink:
Tibear this is something you said in the Marijuana thread...
If the public's health is compromised then something must be done to protect the public.
It occurred to me that a mother giving birth to a child with any number of sexually transmitted or any number of contagious diseaeses would be a threat to the public. What would you suggest be done in a case like this ?
If the public's health is compromised then something must be done to protect the public.
It occurred to me that a mother giving birth to a child with any number of sexually transmitted or any number of contagious diseaeses would be a threat to the public. What would you suggest be done in a case like this ?
Pea,
Can you please explain how I'm using children for a political agenda???
I also don't follow your: is it moral to use the murder and rape of child to try and smear your opponent and make no apology for it.
BTW, thanks again for the personal attacks. Personal attacks simply show the class of the individual who does them.
Can you please explain how I'm using children for a political agenda???
I also don't follow your: is it moral to use the murder and rape of child to try and smear your opponent and make no apology for it.
BTW, thanks again for the personal attacks. Personal attacks simply show the class of the individual who does them.
Well you can take it personally if you like, I speak of the conservative party. And yes they did just that, used the rape and murder of a dead girl to try and smear martin for political gain. This is one of the tatic's that showed canadians what they were dealing with. Now there is real "class" of folks eh??
No you are not! And you know exactly what I am talking about. But I will humor you, and I await to see how the denial and rationalization will play out.
I think it went something like this....Conservatives are leading, holly jones murder says pronography made him do it...."Mr. hair 45, has accused Mr. Martin of killing a bill to further restrict child pornography by calling the election before the measure could be signed into law"........." The party withdrew a press release titled, "Paul Martin Supports Child Pornography?" ......To late the majority already saw what that was about.....just like they did when they tried to vilify the last prime ministers face....canadians don't like those kind of tatics..
I think it went something like this....Conservatives are leading, holly jones murder says pronography made him do it...."Mr. hair 45, has accused Mr. Martin of killing a bill to further restrict child pornography by calling the election before the measure could be signed into law"........." The party withdrew a press release titled, "Paul Martin Supports Child Pornography?" ......To late the majority already saw what that was about.....just like they did when they tried to vilify the last prime ministers face....canadians don't like those kind of tatics..
I don't remember the Holly Jones case. Maybe I was sick that week.
As for the tactics of electioneering, every party does it. They all come out and say they will run a "clean" campaign but when they feel that they are in trouble they resort to painting their opponent as the Devil.
AS stated in other threads, the Liberals did the exact same thing with the Conservatives when it came to two-tiered health-care. They made Stephen Harper out as the devil who was going to lock all of the hospital doors to the poor and bring in American healthcare where only the rich get taken care of.
Every party does it. I don't agree with it but every party does it.
Didn't the SSM organizations also chastise the Liberal Party for dissolving parliament before the legislation could go through??? I seem to recall the gay movement was furious that it would have to go through the whole process of again under the new government.
As for the tactics of electioneering, every party does it. They all come out and say they will run a "clean" campaign but when they feel that they are in trouble they resort to painting their opponent as the Devil.
AS stated in other threads, the Liberals did the exact same thing with the Conservatives when it came to two-tiered health-care. They made Stephen Harper out as the devil who was going to lock all of the hospital doors to the poor and bring in American healthcare where only the rich get taken care of.
Every party does it. I don't agree with it but every party does it.
Didn't the SSM organizations also chastise the Liberal Party for dissolving parliament before the legislation could go through??? I seem to recall the gay movement was furious that it would have to go through the whole process of again under the new government.
Not every party does it to that extent, tibear. Accusing a man of supporting child porn? That's libel. It was dirty, sh*t-disturbing fear-mongering like we always see from the radical bozos.
RB,
There's a reason why it was pulled before it could officially be released. Some lower down created the story and the higher level officials knew that this wasn't fair and would only hurt the party so they pulled it. However, by then some of the media had already got the scent and printed the story. Remember it wasn't an official party release but from a lower level worker.
There's a reason why it was pulled before it could officially be released. Some lower down created the story and the higher level officials knew that this wasn't fair and would only hurt the party so they pulled it. However, by then some of the media had already got the scent and printed the story. Remember it wasn't an official party release but from a lower level worker.
Harper refused to apologize for it, Tibear. It's an old political trick..."Make 'em deny it." It's done through carefully planned leaks to the right people at the right time. It instills enough doubt to get some people, usually those not fully aware of the issues, to vote against their own better interests.
It was part of Harper pandering to those who would unthinkingly legislate their twisted morality on the rest of us.
The bill the Conservatives wanted would have made literature like "Lolita" illegal. It would have outlawed any work of art that showed a naked child, no matter the context. You know those pictures you took of the kids in the tub? The Conservative bill would have made you a child pornographer.
Because the other parties in the house saw how incredibly flawed and stupid the Conservative bill was, they targeted Paul Martin as supporting child pornography. When a child was murdered, they tried to hang that on him too.
These are your good Christian friends, tibear. Liars, slanderers, and pigs.
It was part of Harper pandering to those who would unthinkingly legislate their twisted morality on the rest of us.
The bill the Conservatives wanted would have made literature like "Lolita" illegal. It would have outlawed any work of art that showed a naked child, no matter the context. You know those pictures you took of the kids in the tub? The Conservative bill would have made you a child pornographer.
Because the other parties in the house saw how incredibly flawed and stupid the Conservative bill was, they targeted Paul Martin as supporting child pornography. When a child was murdered, they tried to hang that on him too.
These are your good Christian friends, tibear. Liars, slanderers, and pigs.
That my friends are liars, slanderers and pigs????
I'm sure they'll appreciate that.
At least the conservatives tried to do something with regards to child pornography. Instead of using this as a basis for discussion it is called stupid. Their intentions were to protect children, did the bill have problems, definitely. Problems that couldn't be resolved, no.
I hate all of these party politics. The Liberals will hate anything coming from the Conservatives because they are their biggest rival and the same for the Conservatives. Just once I'd like the opposition to stand up and say the government is doing a good job in something. Anything.
You see, I don't see everything with a blue tint. I see with realistic eyes. Every party does stupid things and I don't try to paint every Liberal as stupid and arrogant. All I ask that the liberals do the same for Conservatives, they may do stupid things from time to time but don't paint them all with the same brush and claim hidden agendas when there aren't any.
I'm sure they'll appreciate that.
At least the conservatives tried to do something with regards to child pornography. Instead of using this as a basis for discussion it is called stupid. Their intentions were to protect children, did the bill have problems, definitely. Problems that couldn't be resolved, no.
I hate all of these party politics. The Liberals will hate anything coming from the Conservatives because they are their biggest rival and the same for the Conservatives. Just once I'd like the opposition to stand up and say the government is doing a good job in something. Anything.
You see, I don't see everything with a blue tint. I see with realistic eyes. Every party does stupid things and I don't try to paint every Liberal as stupid and arrogant. All I ask that the liberals do the same for Conservatives, they may do stupid things from time to time but don't paint them all with the same brush and claim hidden agendas when there aren't any.
The Liberals were working on a bill. The Conservatives (actually the Alliance back then) wanted theirs in instead. Nothing less would do.
Your friend lied and slandered, they did so publicly. That makes them pigs. Check the facts, tibear.
Your friend lied and slandered, they did so publicly. That makes them pigs. Check the facts, tibear.