Abortion -The poll is not based upon Religious belief - It is based ethics
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I'm both. How do you respond to that d*ck-wad?
I have been through this with you many times already and you always let your religious viewpoints overrule logic and reason in regards to freedom. I do not want you or anybody else ruling over me therefore I will not rule over anyone else. We are all individuals first before we are a society and some things must remain individual choices including family planning. You may have a personal viewpoint regarding pregnancy termination but it is just your personal opinion and you are welcome to it as long as you don't try to impose your view on me or anyone else. By vehemently declaring it murder you denigrate your intelligence and the subject. Others and the law of our country do not equate abortion to murder, including me even though I am anti-abortion. Your opinion is noted but would hold more weight and be received much better if you used logic or gentle persuasive techniques instead of crying "murderer" at all who disagree with you. By acting the way you do people automatically respond by ignoring all you say or regarding you as a misogynistic religious crackpot.
It isn't an individual. Not by law or by most people's opinion. You and some other zealots in the pro-life, or anti-freedom camp as I call it, wish to use that as a way to inflame a response to your liking but in reality a blastoma is no more an individual, sentient lifeform than my nylon carpet.
Law and opinion don't change a damn thing in the physical world. Human life is human life.
If you can find a prettier definition of eugenics than murder please express it.
If you can find a prettier definition of eugenics than murder please express it.
They are bothered so much by being called murderers and supporters of murder because it hits so close to home. They KNOW that their excuses are flimsy at best and only meant to help them sleep at night.
You're not both. You are pro choice. You may not believe in murdering your own children but you have no problem with others murdering their own. It really doesn't make you any better than they are and no less culpable.
It isn't any of those things until it is born, or at least able to sustain basic life functions outside of the host. That means breathe and eat/drink and continue a heartbeat and brain activity. Once again you try to equate a blstocyst or zygote to a human and they are far from human and closer to a tumor or cyst. It is not until well into the second trimester that anything even remotely human as to life function becomes even a little apparent. Sorry G but you can keep on with these useless attempts to humanize the fetus all you want but you are just plain wrong.
Ohhhh it's human alright the legal term person doesn't change that and never will. It can't be anything but.
The fetus is not a human life until it can sustain basic life-function and that does not happen until very late in the pregnancy. before that is is no more than a parasitic tumor.
It isn't murder and I am in no way responsible for the actions of others. Any time you wish to have this discussion face to face you have my address. PM me your number and I will come see you. You are a pathetic douche who is a good reason to engage in retroactive abortion. I've warned you before about calling me a murderer and I really don't care if Loc or the other mods give me sh*t or even ban me, I WILL hunt you down and deal with you on a personal level if you persist.
Ya, I know. You're a tough guy and I Should be so scared out of boots that I should shut my mouth.
You don't need to shut your mouth. You are welcome to your opinion. What you will not get away with with me is slander or unfounded accusation. I am willing to have a rational discussion with you over any topic G. Some we agree on and others we don't but it is unacceptable for anyone to start tossing 'murderer' at anyone without actual legal foundation. You obviously do not seem to think you should respect people or their right to a different view on a subject and appear to believe slander and libel do not apply to you. Sometimes you can have some reasonably intelligent responses and other times, such as on any abortion thread, you just lose any coherent logical reasoning or ability for objective thought. I would suggest since we all have seen you post the same BS time and time again on this subject you may want to just keep away from the topic. It's your choice in the end but remember you preach responsibility for one's own actions and I will hold you responsible for calling me a murderer if you continue to do so.
Well, logically, if you consider foeti to be "children," then abortion must be worse than the Holocaust. So, aside from yapping on the internet, what are you doing about, Herr gerryh?
A parasitic tumor. If it were a human life it would sustain basic life functions on its' own.
A classic concern troll who is frustrated that even after quoting member after member, nobody wants to talk to it. It's kinda funny. :lol:
A parasitic tumour? Abnormal tissue growth? Not human DNA packing but a foreign life form that moved into the womb?
Fascinating.
Fixed it.
A parasitic tumour? Abnormal tissue growth? Not human DNA packing but a foreign life form that moved into the womb?
Fascinating.
Fixed it.
