A two-state solution for Canada?
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I fully agree. If Quebec ever did separate, many idiots on both sides would likely be more than happy to destroy Canada's economy by going to war. Putting the obvious human cost aside for now, there would also be the issue of national debt, depreciation of the currency, inflation, high interest rates, with only civil war keeping employment up. And th end result would be nothing more than increased animosity and still separation, except this time with nothing left for either side to preserve.
Thinking rationally, while there could be valid cause to go to war, we'd still turn to that as a last resort, and try, should we fail to maintain national unity, to at least establish friendly relations between the new states and let people get on with their lives.
Though I think it unlikely for Quebec to separate in the near future, I also thin, judging from some of the posts in this thread, that we'd bloody well hope not too, since many here would be more than eager to drag blood through the streets of our cities, towns and villages.
Scary thought really, that so many seem so bloodthirsty.
Then again, El Barto, isn't nationalism (not to be confused with patriotism) really just a fanatical alternative to the mixing of Church and state?
That's very difficult to say. Montreal might want to either separate from Quebec or at least maintain some kind of relationship with the rest of Canada. Don't forget the Iroquois Nation either. Though granted there would also be the question of who controlled the mouth of the River.
That alone would be one reason to insist on a common citizenship so as to ensure all Canadians could continue to have the same access to that river as Quebecers.
The St. Laurence is an extremely important river from a commercial, industrial, and transportation standploint.
Don't know about Canada, but...
Now its time for a 2-state in Egypt - one for the Arab Muslims - and one for the original, native persecuted Copts of that land. Muslims don't need more land - they were already given 22 ficticious Regime states when oil was discovered.
Serial 2-states in the same tiny land = GENOCIDE. There has already been a 2-state in Palestine: its called Jordan, which carved off 80% of the land allocated for the Jews.
The Arab Muslims are using the invented Pretend Palestineans, the least affected refugees in Geo-History, to justify the genocide of Jews and Israel.
Now its time for a 2-state in Egypt - one for the Arab Muslims - and one for the original, native persecuted Copts of that land. Muslims don't need more land - they were already given 22 ficticious Regime states when oil was discovered.
Serial 2-states in the same tiny land = GENOCIDE. There has already been a 2-state in Palestine: its called Jordan, which carved off 80% of the land allocated for the Jews.
The Arab Muslims are using the invented Pretend Palestineans, the least affected refugees in Geo-History, to justify the genocide of Jews and Israel.
If Quebec ever separated, we'd have enough on our plates without worrying about Egypt and Israel, at least for awhile.
Just look at a map of Quebec: it would face no obstacle to the Atlantic Ocean. Toronto on the other hand...
Being a Quebec anglophone ''maudit anglais'' myself, I can confirm that anglophones get all they need in Quebec.
Take a stroll down Westmount in Montreal, see if ''les Anglais'' in Quebec really are so badly treated.
Yeah, what the blankety blank blank has Egypt got to do with Quebec. When some people don't know something they have to switch over to something they THINK they know something about.
You bet - they'd be a bunch of fricken orphans.
Smells like something is burning... Have you been trying to think today Johnny?
Find one post where I said that.
Try.
Why on earth would we ever agree to that? Most of the fine civil servants in Ottawa
come across the bridge every morning from Quebec to go to work, I think those jobs
should become Canadian jobs if they left. I would not support them living off us for
another moment. Either they want to be Canadians or they don't that is what being
part of a country is all about.
Secondly the fight over separation began the day after they signed onto becoming a
country which suggests they don't want to leave they just want money.
come across the bridge every morning from Quebec to go to work, I think those jobs
should become Canadian jobs if they left. I would not support them living off us for
another moment. Either they want to be Canadians or they don't that is what being
part of a country is all about.
Secondly the fight over separation began the day after they signed onto becoming a
country which suggests they don't want to leave they just want money.
421M of the 5B the BQ is seeking from the Cons to support the upcoming budget is to cover what the BQ figures is the Feds share in compensation for the 1998 Ice Storm.
After I'd moved to Quebec, my brother-in-law, not a citizen, moved in with us with the intent to attend a private high school in Montreal paid for entirely by his parents (no tax dollars helping him out, plus Quebec would have been making a profit). Unfortunately, his Amharic could not count as a valid second-language and so he'd have to take extra French courses to get his high school diploma which would have held him back an extra year. As a result, we'd moved to Ontario to send him to school here instead.
While I can certainly appreciate Quebec trying to protect its language, my brother-in-law would have been in Quebec just a few years for his education paid for by his parents and then out again. Certainly Quebec could have made an exception there and waved the French-language requirement seeing he was already 16 years old and staying just a few years anyway, not to mention he wasn't costing Quebec anything, rather than require to move out of province.
I can appreciate Quebec's language laws, but sometimes they're a little draconian when you get entangled in them yourself.
First of all, he wasn't required to move out of the province. The laws of the province are as they are and he chose not to deal with them by studying elsewhere. This seems to have been his choice from what you describe.
And what you describe would happen in a two state solution anyway, getting more independence wouldn't mean the end of language laws. I don't see any sense in letting people slip through the law because they supposedly don't intend in staying in Quebec after. All immigrants would start saying ''they're just here a few years anyway''...
The reason we expect immigrants to learn French is for them to integrate and be active members of Quebec society.
Focus and stay on topic, insulting someone is not in the character of a good teacher....... Well i guess its normal for a music teacher to not be mature seeing how what they teach isnt necessary for society.
So welcome to the club scum bag we have something in common
Ive crunched equations witier than you so dont **** with my intelligence. The kid with ADHD whose been called an idiot his whole life has developed quite the portfolio of abilities that would put any puny music teacher to shame
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