A man is a rape supporter if

[karrie]

If every men are rape supporter's. I guess it only proves the natural process of evolution has made us that way. Then I guess rape is not such a bad thing like we make it out to be in our society, if the hole male race of every species on planet earth naturaly participate and supports rape, then maybe consent is just us pretending to be above our natural standard. And men have to live in a constent stat of controlling there natural instinct. Women should appreciate that, no?

I'm hoping you meant to write that in purple (this forum's signal for sarcasm, lol)

 

[captain morgan]

If every men are rape supporter's. I guess it only proves the natural process of evolution has made us that way. Then I guess rape is not such a bad thing like we make it out to be in our society, if the hole male race of every species on planet earth naturaly participate and supports rape, then maybe consent is just us pretending to be above our natural standard. And men have to live in a constent stat of controlling there natural instinct. Women should appreciate that, no?

It makes you wonder... The attitude of the woman that 'wrote' the article is that men are to blame, I wasted a few minutes reading her propaganda - errr - responses to contributors and the net message is that men are to blame for many of the psychological/sociological issues faced by women today.

The first thought that crossed my mind was that it is primarily the maternal figure in a child's life that has a deep and lasting impact on a person.... Kinda makes you wonder why this component is never addressed by the rabid faminists in their rants?

 

[karrie]

It makes you wonder... The attitude of the woman that 'wrote' the article is that men are to blame, I wasted a few minutes reading her propaganda - errr - responses to contributors and the net message is that men are to blame for many of the psychological/sociological issues faced by women today.

The first thought that crossed my mind was that it is primarily the maternal figure in a child's life that has a deep and lasting impact on a person.... Kinda makes you wonder why this component is never addressed by the rabid faminists in their rants?

If you grow up never seeing healthy male female relationships, then it's easy to believe this stuff.

 

[captain morgan]

"Growing up" is the functional component.

 

[Ron in Regina]

A Man Is a Rape-Supporter If…. | Eve Bit First


A man is a rape-supporter if…

• He has ever sexually engaged with any woman while she was underage, drunk, high, physically restrained, unconscious, or subjected to psychological, physical, economic, or emotional coercion.
• He defends the current legal definition of rape and/or opposes making consent a defense.
• He has accused a rape victim of having “buyer’s remorse” or wanting to get money from the man.
• He has blamed a woman for “putting herself in a situation” where she “could be” attacked.
• He has procured a prostitute.
• He characterizes prostitution as a “legitimate” “job” “choice” or defends men who purchase prostitutes.
• He has ever revealed he conceives of sex as fundamentally transactional.
• He has gone to a strip club.
• He is anti-abortion.
• He is pro-”choice” because he believes abortion access will make women more sexually available.
• He frames discussions of pornography in terms of “freedom of speech.”
• He watches pornography in which women are depicted.
• He watches any pornography in which sexual acts are depicted as a struggle for power or domination, regardless of whether women are present.
• He characterizes the self-sexualizing behavior of some women, such as wearing make-up or high heels, as evidence of women’s desire to “get” a man.
• He tells or laughs at jokes involving women being attacked, sexually “hoodwinked,” or sexually harassed.
• He expresses enjoyment of movies/musicals/TV shows/plays in which women are sexually demeaned or presented as sexual objects
• He mocks women who complain about sexual attacks, sexual harassment, street cat-calls, media depictions of women, or other forms of sexual objectification.
• He supports sexual “liberation” and claims women would have more sex with (more) men if society did not “inhibit” them.
• He states or implies that women who do not want to have sex with men are “inhibited,” “prudes,” “stuck-up,” “man-haters,” or psychologically ill.
• He argues that certain male behaviors towards women are “cultural” and therefore not legitimate subjects of feminist attention.
• He ever subordinates the interests of women in a given population to the interests of the men in that population, or proceeds in discussions as if the interests of the women are the same as the interests of the men.
• He promotes religious or philosophical views in which a woman’s physical/psychological/emotional/sexual well-being is subordinated to a man’s.
• He describes female anatomy in terms of penetration, or uses terms referencing the supposed “emptiness” of female anatomy when describing women.
• He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of “consent.”
• He defends the sexualization or sexual abuse of minor females on the grounds of “consent” or “willingness.”
• He promotes the idea that women as a class are happier or more fulfilled if they have children, or that they “should” have children.
• He argues that people (or just “men”) have sexual “needs.”
• He discusses the “types” of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.
• He sexually objectifies lesbians or lesbian sexual activity.
• He defends these actions by saying that some women also engage in them.

"Wow....uhm.....Check Please! It's been nice meeting you, but....uhm...you're nuts,
and I've gotta go."

 

[gopher]

... all that above would make more than a few women rape supporters as well.

 

[Angstrom]

I'm hoping you meant to write that in purple (this forum's signal for sarcasm, lol)

No sarcasm, intended.

I live everyday with testosterone, and so do millions of males. Natural evolution has made us aggressive out of need to defend our territory. Survival of the specie for millions of years has depended on it.

Today that need for aggressive behavior is not accepted and no longer needed in the same way, but we can't ignore that we haven't always lived the way we do today.

I would hope women could appreciate that a majority of men today spend much of there time, managing anger and controlling themselves from doing things that are not socially acceptable in our society.

Million's of years of evolutions is not going to just stop in one day because we had a women revolution 50 years ago.

 

[lone wolf]

Was it only 50 years ago?

 

[Angstrom]

Was it only 50 years ago?

Depends in what part of the world.
Here in Canada I'd say 90 Years top's?

When it started and when it hit main stream are two different things.
50 Years is good if your looking at when it was main stream and accepted.

But even if it was 100 years ago. I don't think half a centurie makes
much difference compared to the other side of the coin, millions of years
of evolution and survival with nature.

 

[Kreskin]

Angstrom has a point. Men have some pretty powerful caveman hormones.

 

[Angstrom]

Angstrom has a point. Men have some pretty powerful caveman hormones.

I also think that deep down, women still find a powerful caveman behavior very attractive.
Even if our society has evolved, we still are dealing with our body's that are animal.
Even if our brains and culture tell us otherwise our natural instinct still influence us.

 

[cranky]

Angstrom has a point. Men have some pretty powerful caveman hormones.

I think it would be an interesting thread, if someone was to define what 'pretty powerful caveman hormones' means.

 

[s_lone]

He argues that people (or just “men”) have sexual “needs.”

People do have sexual needs. But that doesn't justify rape. Not even close. Suggesting everyone who thinks people have sexual needs are rape supporters makes a very strong majority of human beings rape supporters.

You are a cannibalism supporter if you argue that people have nutritional needs. The author's logic seems as ridiculous as this last statement I just made.

 

[JLM]

A Man Is a Rape-Supporter If…. | Eve Bit First


A man is a rape-supporter if…

• He has ever sexually engaged with any woman while she was underage, drunk, high, physically restrained, unconscious, or subjected to psychological, physical, economic, or emotional coercion.
• He defends the current legal definition of rape and/or opposes making consent a defense.
• He has accused a rape victim of having “buyer’s remorse” or wanting to get money from the man.
• He has blamed a woman for “putting herself in a situation” where she “could be” attacked.
• He has procured a prostitute.
• He characterizes prostitution as a “legitimate” “job” “choice” or defends men who purchase prostitutes.
• He has ever revealed he conceives of sex as fundamentally transactional.
• He has gone to a strip club.
• He is anti-abortion.
• He is pro-”choice” because he believes abortion access will make women more sexually available.
• He frames discussions of pornography in terms of “freedom of speech.”
• He watches pornography in which women are depicted.
• He watches any pornography in which sexual acts are depicted as a struggle for power or domination, regardless of whether women are present.
• He characterizes the self-sexualizing behavior of some women, such as wearing make-up or high heels, as evidence of women’s desire to “get” a man.
• He tells or laughs at jokes involving women being attacked, sexually “hoodwinked,” or sexually harassed.
• He expresses enjoyment of movies/musicals/TV shows/plays in which women are sexually demeaned or presented as sexual objects
• He mocks women who complain about sexual attacks, sexual harassment, street cat-calls, media depictions of women, or other forms of sexual objectification.
• He supports sexual “liberation” and claims women would have more sex with (more) men if society did not “inhibit” them.
• He states or implies that women who do not want to have sex with men are “inhibited,” “prudes,” “stuck-up,” “man-haters,” or psychologically ill.
• He argues that certain male behaviors towards women are “cultural” and therefore not legitimate subjects of feminist attention.
• He ever subordinates the interests of women in a given population to the interests of the men in that population, or proceeds in discussions as if the interests of the women are the same as the interests of the men.
• He promotes religious or philosophical views in which a woman’s physical/psychological/emotional/sexual well-being is subordinated to a man’s.
• He describes female anatomy in terms of penetration, or uses terms referencing the supposed “emptiness” of female anatomy when describing women.
• He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of “consent.”
• He defends the sexualization or sexual abuse of minor females on the grounds of “consent” or “willingness.”
• He promotes the idea that women as a class are happier or more fulfilled if they have children, or that they “should” have children.
• He argues that people (or just “men”) have sexual “needs.”
• He discusses the “types” of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.
• He sexually objectifies lesbians or lesbian sexual activity.
• He defends these actions by saying that some women also engage in them.

Some of it is probably true. :smile:

 

[s_lone]

He discusses the “types” of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.

So basically if a gal hits on me in a bar and I tell her she's not my type I should be labeled a rape supporter?

 

[TenPenny]

He discusses the “types” of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.

So basically if a gal hits on me in a bar and I tell her she's not my type I should be labeled a rape supporter?

If you are a man, yes.

 

[JLM]

If you are a man, yes.

How do you figure?

 

[TenPenny]

How do you figure?

Didn't you read the original post? All men are rape supporters.

 

[JLM]

Didn't you read the original post? All men are rape supporters.

Sorry, I'm a bit slow this AM, thought it was your opinion. :smile:

Guess the O.P. was all tongue in cheek.

 

[TenPenny]

Sorry, I'm a bit slow this AM, thought it was your opinion. :smile:

Guess the O.P. was all tongue in cheek.

Late night watching hockey does that to a person...