A&E shoots itself in the foot

[Goober]

It certainly is more common for people to prefer sex with the opposite sex. Nobody has claimed otherwise.

What is not normal is going around providing unsolicited judgement of other people's sexual preferences.

Was Phil Robertson asked a question? Yes
During a discussion about repentance and God, Robertson is asked what he finds sinful.

"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there," he says. "Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

 

[Sal]

Was he asked a question.

nope

 

[Goober]

nope

From the article.
During a discussion about repentance and God, Robertson is asked what he finds sinful.

"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there," he says. "Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

 

[Sal]

From the article.
During a discussion about repentance and God, Robertson is asked what he finds sinful.

"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there," he says. "Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

sorry, your he was not specific

 

[Goober]

sorry, your he was not specific

I was not attempting to mislead. I should have been clear on who was asked what. My apologies Sal.

 

[Sal]

I was not attempting to mislead. I should have been clear on who was asked what. My apologies Sal.

thanks but not necessary...no worries goob we were both just going in different directions...

 

[BornRuff]

Was Phil Robertson asked a question? Yes
During a discussion about repentance and God, Robertson is asked what he finds sinful.

"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there," he says. "Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

The comment where he goes into detail about sex with a woman vs a man do not appear to be in response to a question.

"Out here in these woods, without any cameras around, Phil is free to say what he wants. Maybe a little too free. He’s got lots of thoughts on modern immorality, and there’s no stopping them from rushing out. Like this one:

“It seems like, to me, a ******—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

Perhaps we’ll be needing that seat belt after all."

On a related note though, given the very small role homosexuality plays in the bible compared to other sins, does it seem strange that when asked about what he considers sinful, he would "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there"?

 

[gerryh]

The comment where he goes into detail about sex with a woman vs a man do not appear to be in response to a question.

and what exactly is wrong with that comment? How was it homophobic? How was it denigrating to the LGBT community? I sure as hell don't find it or anything else he said to be denigrating.

On a related note though, given the very small role homosexuality plays in the bible compared to other sins, does it seem strange that when asked about what he considers sinful, he would "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there"?

Seems it is "some" of the LGBT community that is making it more than it is.

 

[Goober]

The comment where he goes into detail about sex with a woman vs a man do not appear to be in response to a question.



On a related note though, given the very small role homosexuality plays in the bible compared to other sins, does it seem strange that when asked about what he considers sinful, he would "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there"?

Well you have to start somewhere. This crap he is going thru is utter BS.

 

[BornRuff]

and what exactly is wrong with that comment? How was it homophobic? How was it denigrating to the LGBT community? I sure as hell don't find it or anything else he said to be denigrating.

You can label it however you want. I don't think that unsolicited judgement of other people's sexual preferences is ever really appreciated.

Seems it is "some" of the LGBT community that is making it more than it is.

So are you not going to actually comment on what I said?

Do you not think that comment is very strange in relation to what is actually in the bible? Wouldn't you expect him to start somewhere in the seven deadly sins?

 

[gerryh]

GLAAD, another hetrophobic organization. Preaching tolerance, yet completely intolerant of those with differing beliefs.

 

[BornRuff]

GLAAD, another hetrophobic organization. Preaching tolerance, yet completely intolerant of those with differing beliefs.

How can you promote inclusion and tolerance while supporting intolerance and prejudiced views? They are necessarily incomparable. It is like peace keeping. Promoting peace doesn't mean you embrace the people who are preventing peace.

It is kind of insulting to assign these views to heterosexuals in general. I certainly do not want these views assigned to me.

 

[gerryh]

How can you promote inclusion and tolerance while supporting intolerance and prejudiced views?

It is kind of insulting to assign these views to heterosexuals in general. I certainly do not want these views assigned to me.

I'm not assigning anything to hetro's in general. Show me where I have.

 

[BornRuff]

I'm not assigning anything to hetro's in general. Show me where I have.

You called them heterophobic for denouncing these comments.

 

[gerryh]

You called them heterophobic for denouncing these comments.

Yes, that's right. So how is that assigning anything to Hetro's? That's assigning an attitude to GLAAD, not to hetro's.

and I'm calling them hetrophobic for assigning comments and attitudes that were not expressed. In other words, they are making things up. There is no need to do that, there is enough bigotry towards LGBT's without having to make shyte up.

 

[BornRuff]

Yes, that's right. So how is that assigning anything to Hetro's? That's assigning an attitude to GLAAD, not to hetro's.

and I'm calling them hetrophobic for assigning comments and attitudes that were not expressed. In other words, they are making things up. There is no need to do that, there is enough bigotry towards LGBT's without having to make shyte up.

If you think denouncing those statements is "heterophobic", then you are necessarily saying that making a statement like that in somehow innately heterosexual. The issue they have with him has nothing to do with his sexual orientation. They have an issue with the views that he expressed about other people's sexual orientation.

 

[Goober]

You called them heterophobic for denouncing these comments.

When you do not march and sing the way they want you to, what would you say about their tolerance.
Did the man express hatred towards them. Nope. His Religious beliefs are fairly basic.
GLADD just raising their profile and fundraising.
And it would only be a certain percentage of GLADD. The ones that got the Party line out quickly.

 

[Colpy]

Some of my comrades, who really should know better, wonder why, instead of insisting Robertson be defenestrated, GLAAD wouldn’t rather “start a conversation.” But, if you don’t need to, why bother? Most Christian opponents of gay marriage oppose gay marriage; they don’t oppose the right of gays to advocate it. Yet thug groups like GLAAD increasingly oppose the right of Christians even to argue their corner. It’s quicker and more effective to silence them.

The wonderful Mark Steyn.

The Age of Intolerance | National Review Online

 

[gerryh]

one of many many comments on GLAAD's face book page concerning Phil

"There is no support from almost all of the gay community, they feel like this joke of an organization is way out of line and detrimental to the real gay movement. There are more gays supporting Phil than glaad! You people need to wake up and see the damage you are doing"

This is what I've been implying. GLAAD does NOT represent the majority of GBLT's. I know it doesn't represent me.

 

[Colpy]

one of many many comments on GLAAD's face book page concerning Phil

"There is no support from almost all of the gay community, they feel like this joke of an organization is way out of line and detrimental to the real gay movement. There are more gays supporting Phil than glaad! You people need to wake up and see the damage you are doing"

This is what I've been implying. GLAAD does NOT represent the majority of GBLT's. I know it doesn't represent me.

While I haven't been cruising GLAAD's facebook page , I suspect you are correct. My (gay) brother also thinks the situation is ludicrous.....although he is unusual in being both Christian and celibate, so he is certainly not mainstream in the gay community.