A balanced Canadian approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

What policy should Canada adopt regarding Israel?

  • Option 1 in the OP.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Option 2 in the OP.

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • Option 3 in the OP.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Other answer.

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Total voters
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How exactly does that support your assertion, that Ka-daffy duck is on the Israeli "kill list"?

Your articles state tha they are there fighting for Ka-daffy duck, not against him.
I didn't mean to indicate they were trying to expel a dictator, they are trying to keep that one in power (by killing the civilian rebels) while their closest Allie is support the other side, with more than the usual number of friendly fire incidents.
 

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I didn't mean to indicate they were trying to expel a dictator, they are trying to keep that one in power while their closest Allie is support the other side, with more than the usual number of friendly fire incidents.
Cool.
 

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I assume that is from the Canadian perspective rather than having relatives in Libya.
No, that was from the perspective, that I understand your clarification.

My opinion on the death of civilians, friendly fire and war in general, is completely different.
 

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That Israel and the US are funding and adding material support to both sides while remaining good friends in all respects. Remember who is funding the opposition when Canadians start dieing.

http://redactednews.blogspot.com/20...dium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+redactedNews+(un[redacted]+news%29
Skeptics doubt Israel’s claim of an attack from Gaza, citing Israel’s propensity for fabricating threats and the bizarre choice of weapons. From an American intelligence source who has worked with Israel for decades:
 

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That Israel and the US are funding and adding material support to both sides while remaining good friends in all respects. Remember who is funding the opposition when Canadians start dieing.

[redacted] news: BREAKING NEWS: Israeli Embassy in Cairo Under Siege[redacted]+news%29
Skeptics doubt Israel’s claim of an attack from Gaza, citing Israel’s propensity for fabricating threats and the bizarre choice of weapons. From an American intelligence source who has worked with Israel for decades:
Sorry Mhz, I'm going to have to wait until someone gives me more then blogger stories, and unnamed sources, before I join you in your blanket condemnation of Israel
 

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At least it didn't take two full weeks before any condemnation during cast lead was in print in the west, probably never in Egypt
 

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As a nation who saw fit to defy the international arms embargo on South Africa and profited from selling weapons to that nation during its "apartheid" period, what is Israel's position on "human rights?"
 

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As a nation who saw fit to defy the international arms embargo on South Africa and profited from selling weapons to that nation during its "apartheid" period, what is Israel's position on "human rights?"
Better than its neighbours...

Gay rights, Arabs in politics, and so on.
 

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Better than its neighbours...

Gay rights, Arabs in politics, and so on.
Which ones exactly, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia?
Those are all US supported Monarchs or Dictators, they give them the weapons so they can hold down revolts over basic human rights issues.
 
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By 1987 Israel found itself alone among the developed nations in still maintaining strong, even strategic relations with apartheid South Africa (Among African nations, only Malawi maintained diplomatic relations with South Africa throughout the Apartheid era ).

..... Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi wrote in 1988 that the alliance between South Africa and Israel has been one of the most underreported news stories of the past four decades and that Israel played a crucial role in the survival of the apartheid regime. Israel's collaboration with Apartheid South Africa has been mentioned and condemned by various international organizations like the UN General assembly (several times since 1974).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_%E2%80%93_South_Africa_relations

Part of the supposed appeal for supporting Israel is that she is "morally superior" when compared to the Palestinians and her Arab neighbours. As one of the world's major suppliers of weapons whose customers have included countries considered to be international "outcasts," what are Israel's moral standards?
 

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Part of the supposed appeal for supporting Israel is that she is "morally superior" when compared to the Palestinians and her Arab neighbours. As one of the world's major suppliers of weapons which have included countries considered to be international "outcasts," what are Israel's moral standards?

To be honest, I find any support for South Africa, at that time, abhorrent.

But we aren't living in that time.

But if we all want to try and view history with a contemporary eye, and throw around unethical or immoral acts from the past.

I'd love to be alive in apartheid, than dead in a gas chamber, thank you very much.
 

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Any besides the 3 listed because Israel supported the use of live ammo in suppressing the demonstrators right from the beginning from the reports that came in over some websites such as the one below that was covering the STL and Hezbollah actions that cause the fall of the Gov in a no confidence vote.

Naharnet News Desk
 

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Any besides the 3 listed because Israel supported the use of live ammo in suppressing the demonstrators right from the beginning from the reports that came in over some websites such as the one below that was covering the STL and Hezbollah actions that cause the fall of the Gov in a no confidence vote.

Naharnet News Desk
Is there a question or a point in that? Can you clarify what it is you're try to convey?
 

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To be honest, I find any support for South Africa, at that time, abhorrent.

But we aren't living in that time.

But if we all want to try and view history with a contemporary eye, and throw around unethical or immoral acts from the past.

I'd love to be alive in apartheid, than dead in a gas chamber, thank you very much.
That's why revolts should happen when oppression first rears it's ugly head. To complain because you are on the wrong end of the clubbing isn't really unique, so why is the suffering of only one group important?
 

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That's why revolts should happen when oppression first rears it's ugly head. To complain because you are on the wrong end of the clubbing isn't really unique, so why is the suffering of only one group important?
It isn't, which is my biggest problem with the anti Israeli crowd.