9 year old suspended for bringing tools to school

[karrie]

Insurance regs? Zero tolerance? What can we expect from "adults" who sexualize an empathetic hug between five-year-olds? I wonder if educators are really mature enough to be teaching kids any more...

Woof!

I don't know wolf. I've seen some great teachers. And like I said in regards to my kids' school, I've seen some great administrators too.

But, having the ability to teach, guide, and discipline a child without treating them like a criminal is perhaps more than I dare expect from people as Prax suggests.

 

[gerryh]

I don't know wolf. I've seen some great teachers. And like I said in regards to my kids' school, I've seen some great administrators too.

But, having the ability to teach, guide, and discipline a child without treating them like a criminal is perhaps more than I dare expect from people as Prax suggests.

If they can't do the job properly...... then get the hell out.

 

[lone wolf]

It's just too easy to sue.

Woof!

 

[karrie]

If they can't do the job properly...... then get the hell out.

It's part of why I left the public system

 

[gerryh]

It's part of why I left the public system

what...the fact that so many of them seem to be there to collect a pay cheque and that's it? Kids are secondary?

 

[Praxius]

What that LITTLE girl did, did NOT warrant a suspension. It warranted confiscation and a call to the parents...period...end of discussion...... That no mind principal needs to get her head out of her a$$ and start using the brains and common sense that god supposedly gave her. She's dealing with CHILDREN...not fricken terrorists!

Sorry it's not the end of discussion and a period is just the begining of another sentence.

It was in the States, based on what their schools have been going through in the last couple of years, I think safety beats all, but then again, ask somebody there and determine.

Then again, none of us know the entire situation yet again, and once again we have one side who's going on emotional value of just what the media report begged you to express, and the side I choose which is going on what was stated officially and the reasons explained. Justified. Is the debate over? Of course not, that's just silly.

As for the equally stupid comments about schools being more dangerous now than "before".... consider yourself lucky that YOUR school didn't have problems with violence when you grew up. Mine had knives....guns...teachers being threatened by both... cops being assualted in the hall ways.... and this was 30 years ago.... things are no different now than they were in the past when it comes to behaviour of kids.... biggest difference between then and now......The frickin Internet and how easy it is to access what's goin down ALL over the place...from around the corner to across the Ocean.

So what are you trying to say? Things are no different now then 30 some odd years ago, but now that kids have the internet it is? What they hell does that mean?

If you want to overdramatize things, sure.... hey we had a sawed off at out school one time, we had the police in, I experienced students threatening teachers, knives, etc etc.... the only difference today is that kids are actually going into schools these days loaded with guns to shoot as many other students and teachers as they please and then kill themselves before the police can get them. Then you have, something of which you still avoided: the children who plotted against the teacher to knock her out, tie her up and stab her.....

Sure sure.... things sure are just like the good ol days alright. :roll: Add on top the US's fear mongering machine, sure, everybody is just full of sunshine and hugs down there..... 8O

 

[Praxius]

The quick answer....NO.

Then by all means, teach your kids yourself, either that, or suck it up.

 

[gerryh]

Then by all means, teach your kids yourself, either that, or suck it up.

I have, when necesary....and I've told the teachers, to their face, exactley what I think of their teaching credentials...... and like Karrie, the kids I have left at home, are NOT in the public school system.

 

[Praxius]

If they can't do the job properly...... then get the hell out.

Do their job properly?

What about the parents parenting properly? If you're not going to accept that your under 10 year old child shouldn't be bringing those things to school to begin with, then it's the parents trying to avoid the blame.

I knew long before I went to school I wasn't to be playing around with my father's tools, and I sure as heck wasn't supposed to bring them to school. If I wan't to bring a toy to school I asked my parents first.... but they were toys, not actual construction tools. If I pulled a stunt like that, such as when I took the knife to school for lunch, I'd get in sh*t.... just like I did.... just like this child did.

Do I blame the teachers? No. I accept my responsibility, and parents need to let their children learn about responsibility and the levels of them on their own sometimes. How are your kids going to do when you're always there with an answer for them, or they don't listen to what you already told them once and they do something stupid?

We've all done something stupid once in a while in which out parents couldn't bail us out.... be that very young or very old.... maybe just yesterday. But this was one of those cases.

Instead of trying to start an argument with the parent, and to drag this on further, the punishment was given, the parents will complain just as they did, people will get emotionally charged, and then life will go on. Perhaps one person in all of it might have learned one lesson, and so long as one person does, no matter what it is, then it worked.

What am I talking about?

I like Biscuits.

 

[Praxius]

I have, when necesary....and I've told the teachers, to their face, exactley what I think of their teaching credentials...... and like Karrie, the kids I have left at home, are NOT in the public school system.

Then you have no place to complain. When you home school you know the children and you know how they interact. When you're responsible for 30+ kids from all walks of life for most of the day, you can't always take chances.... and how the parents help you deal with the situation also changes the end results. You don't always have the luxury.

I don't hear too many university students protesting the nazi-like teaching ways of many professors and their tight deadlines, extreme critical marking, etc..... many would considder it to be unfair, yet they'll pay thousands and thousands of dollars to put up with it.... they're paying their salaries.... I don't hear the students telling the professors how to teach them.

come on now.

 

[gerryh]

well....when you have 22 year old kids(teachers) telling the kids to keep it down as they have a hangover........can't say I have much respect for public school teachers........


and there's a world of difference between a university student and a 9 year old child.

 

[gerryh]

Do their job properly?

What about the parents parenting properly? If you're not going to accept that your under 10 year old child shouldn't be bringing those things to school to begin with, then it's the parents trying to avoid the blame.

I knew long before I went to school I wasn't to be playing around with my father's tools, and I sure as heck wasn't supposed to bring them to school. If I wan't to bring a toy to school I asked my parents first.... but they were toys, not actual construction tools. If I pulled a stunt like that, such as when I took the knife to school for lunch, I'd get in sh*t.... just like I did.... just like this child did.

Do I blame the teachers? No. I accept my responsibility, and parents need to let their children learn about responsibility and the levels of them on their own sometimes. How are your kids going to do when you're always there with an answer for them, or they don't listen to what you already told them once and they do something stupid?

We've all done something stupid once in a while in which out parents couldn't bail us out.... be that very young or very old.... maybe just yesterday. But this was one of those cases.

Instead of trying to start an argument with the parent, and to drag this on further, the punishment was given, the parents will complain just as they did, people will get emotionally charged, and then life will go on. Perhaps one person in all of it might have learned one lesson, and so long as one person does, no matter what it is, then it worked.

What am I talking about?

I like Biscuits.

Did I say bringing the tools to school was right? No I didn't..... the "punishment" didn't fit the "crime".....and it's obvious that both you and the this particular school admin are too brain dead to have figured that out. The excuses given were cop outs only.