67% of Canadians favour screening newcomers for 'anti-Canadian values

[Queb]

Un pays n’est pas forcément une entité légale,

Un pays n'est jamais une entité "légale". Un pays existe par lui-même. C'est certainement un territoire délimité par des frontières et ça s'inscrit dans l'histoire.... mais il arrive que certains aient été dépossédés de leur état ou soient carrément disparus et ne sont plus qu'un souvenir et n'ont plus aucune signification dans le présent et aucune portée politique.

Bon, on vas-tu devoir s'obstiner comme ça sur chaque mot ?

 

[Curious Cdn]

I know. Ain't it great? We don't have to kill off the pinkies. We talked 'em into killing themselves off.

Think of it as evolution in action.

I was always a bit suspicious of the "gift" of tobacco.

 

[gerryh]

Ah, je comprends maintenant. Je n’avais jamais dit que j’étais antinationaliste. « Anti » suggère une opposition.

J’ai dit que je ne suis pas nationaliste du tout. En fait, il y a peu de chose que je suis contre. Je ne me dit même pas antiraciste bien que je suis loin d’être raciste. L’un est une opposition, l’autre est une négation. Donc « antinationaliste » et « a-nationaliste ou non-nationaliste» ne sont pas la même chose. Un a-nationaliste ou non-nationaliste (plutôt synonymes) ne s’oppose pas au nationalisme même s’il n’est pas nationaliste lui-même.

Pour prendre un exemple plus concret concernant le racisme. Si un groupe de blancs décideraient de créer une organisation blanche, bien que je ne m’y intéresserais pas, je ne m’y opposerait pas non plus juste autant que c’est purement dans le contexte officieux et non pas une politique du gouvernement.

Je ne suis pas anticatholique mais je ne suis pas catholique non plus. Je m’oppose au système des écoles séparées dans la constitution car cela est officiel. Si non, que les catholiques font ce qu’ils veulent.

Je ne suis pas nationaliste mais pas antinationaliste non plus. Encore, juste autant que le nationalisme ne devienne pas une politique officielle du gouvernement.

Qu’o se comprenne. Parfois les brittanistes canadiens ou les souverainistes québécois applaudiront leurs arts et leurs littératures respectives juste comme un patriote universaliste le fera. Mais les motivations seront différentes. Par exemple, un patriote appréciera les œuvres littéraires québécoises pour leur beauté tandis qu’un nationaliste s’en vanterait fièrement comme symbole de la nation ethnique. Mais car je ne suis pas antinationaliste, je n’ai rien contre ca autant qu’on ne me l’impose pas.

Bullshyte, you ARE anti-Catholic. You have made that patently clear over the years.

 

[Machjo]

Bullshyte, you ARE anti-Catholic. You have made that patently clear over the years.

The greenie was an accident this time.

I challenge you to show me one quote of mine that attacks the Catholic Church outside of any special status that other religions don't enjoy (i.e. opposition to the separate school system doesn't count since that is attacking a special official status that even the UN has officially criticized).

 

[taxslave]

Bien que je ne sois pas nationaliste du tout, je me considère pourtant très patriotique, sauf que pour moi, la terre est mon pays et j’en suis son citoyen. Je donne aux charités et j’aide les autres, mais je n’ai aucun intérêt d’imposer une valeur « canadienne » quelconque sur qui que ce soit. Je préfère une valeur universelle. Je dis ça car c’est trop facile de confondre le patriotisme avec le nationalisme, deux choses à part.



Really? Are you saying I'm not in Canada right now?

I personally oppose the imposition of French on Quebec's private sector and of both Engllish and French on the federally-regulated private sector, preferring instead to leave the private sector alone. Last I checked, Canadian Content is privately owned.

Your beef should be with the public sector and not copy Quebec's example, Taxslave.

And Taxslave, if you were offenced at the mere fact that my text was in French, I can guarantee you that you would have been even more offended had you understood what I had typed.

Heck, even Queb was somewhat offended!

This is an English forum. It is rude to post in a language the majority of the users cannot understand.

 

[gerryh]

This is an English forum. It is rude to post in a language the majority of the users cannot understand.

Do you really think 2 quebecers really give a shyte?

 

[Machjo]

Do you really think 2 quebecers really give a shyte?

I found Queb easier to understand in French than English.

You probably don't know this, but many Quebecers are better in French than English. Since the discussion still revolved around Canadian values, we just figured others would just skip our posts and so allow the discussion to just go on uninterrupted.

Plus how do we promote Canadian unity when we expect English and French Canadians to ghettoize themselves not only geographically but on the WWW too?

FYI, Canada does not have a common language unfortunately.

 

[Queb]

I found Queb easier to understand in French than English.

You probably don't know this, but many Quebecers are better in French than English. Since the discussion still revolved around Canadian values, we just figured others would just skip our posts and so allow the discussion to just go on uninterrupted.

Plus how do we promote Canadian unity when we expect English and French Canadians to ghettoize themselves not only geographically but on the WWW too?

FYI, Canada does not have a common language unfortunately.

A forum is a "private" place. if the rule is to speak english, we should speak english.

 

[Machjo]

A forum is a "private" place. if the rule is to speak english, we should speak english.

Then we'll speak English.

 

[gerryh]

I found Queb easier to understand in French than English.

You probably don't know this, but many Quebecers are better in French than English. Since the discussion still revolved around Canadian values, we just figured others would just skip our posts and so allow the discussion to just go on uninterrupted.

Plus how do we promote Canadian unity when we expect English and French Canadians to ghettoize themselves not only geographically but on the WWW too?

FYI, Canada does not have a common language unfortunately.

Ghettoize? Yup, that pretty much sums up what quebec has done to itself.

 

[Queb]

Ghettoize? Yup, that pretty much sums up what quebec has done to itself.

For a Britano-canadian, the world is finishing where the peoples speak english. Without the queen and the union jack, the civilisation do not exist.

 

[Machjo]

Ghettoize? Yup, that pretty much sums up what quebec has done to itself.

In many respects, Québec is far less ghettoized than most of Canada.

The excesses of Bill 101 aside, at least Québec has but one language of government administration.

Compare that to Canada where even our MP's talk to each other without an interpreter present. Do you realise how ridiculous that looks?

In Indonesia, around ten percent of the population speaks Indonesian as a mother tongue and over one hundred mother tongues are spoken. Yet around 99% of the population knows Indonesian and all MP communicate with one another and their compatriots without the use of an interpreter.

In Canada we have only two major language communities and still can't get our MP's to learn a common language. It makes us look like a land of illiterates.

So at least Québec got that right. One official language of government administration.

 

[gerryh]

For a Britano-canadian, the world is finishing where the peoples speak english. Without the queen and the union jack, the civilisation do not exist.

Britano-Canadian eh..... and what exactly would that be?

In many respects, Québec is far less ghettoized than most of Canada.

The excesses of Bill 101 aside, at least Québec has but one language of government administration.

Compare that to Canada where even our MP's talk to each other without an interpreter present. Do you realise how ridiculous that looks?

In Indonesia, around ten percent of the population speaks Indonesian as a mother tongue and over one hundred mother tongues are spoken. Yet around 99% of the population knows Indonesian and all MP communicate with one another and their compatriots without the use of an interpreter.

In Canada we have only two major language communities and still can't get our MP's to learn a common language. It makes us look like a land of illiterates.

So at least Québec got that right. One official language of government administration.

Yes, let's just dismiss bill 101.

 

[Machjo]

Britano-Canadian eh..... and what exactly would that be?




Yes, let's just dismiss bill 101.

In idiomatic English he means English-Canadian or Canadian of British origin.

 

[gerryh]

In idiomatic English he means English-Canadian or Canadian of British origin.

SO, basically, showing his ignorance.

 

[Machjo]

SO, basically, showing his ignorance.

He knows English a lot better than most English-speakers know French. Just saying.

 

[gerryh]

He knows English a lot better than most English-speakers know French. Just saying.

That's nice, but I don't have a drop of english blood in my veins.

That's why I'm calling him ignorant, not because of the idiom he used. I already knew what he meant, I was just getting 100% clarification.

 

[Queb]

That's nice, but I don't have a drop of english blood in my veins.

That's why I'm calling him ignorant, not because of the idiom he used. I already knew what he meant, I was just getting 100% clarification.

I hope you're not going to believe that the behavior and culture is hereditary and is transmitted by blood.

 

[gerryh]

I hope you're not going to believe that the behavior and culture is hereditary and is transmitted by blood.

You're the one that came up with the comment concerning "Britanio-Canadian" and what they all think.

 

[Queb]

You're the one that came up with the comment concerning "Britanio-Canadian" and what they all think.

they are all british

https://www.pinterest.com/deedeebaba/black-british-history-and-culture/